Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Who the fuck do you think you are to use that tone? The royal we? Are those mutual favors a currency I can trade for a cash? Will the OpenBSD community branding me special get me more work? pussy? the INS fast-lane? Nope. *IF* I decide to put in the work, mylord, it'll be on my own terms so

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Vadim Zhukov
Am I right you need ASCII-like output without extra formatting (e.g., terminal escape codes)? Something like: xyz utility does the following: blah-blah. The options are as follows: -h to make you happy. -k to kill your ex-girl's kitten. -v to make sure everyone know what are you doing. See also

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
mdoc(7) (the suggested format) Ah, the yin and yang of formats and tools ... is there a WYSIWIG editor for mdoc format? WHAT?! ROTFL! mdoc format, JUST LIKE HTML, is not 1:1 representation of display, but a text intermixed with commands/tags that define what is what and how. You just

Re: editing man pages for the blind in mind [was: Re: Calomel.org]

2012-07-27 Thread David Coppa
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: yep. looks like I need to come up to current then. 4.7 is definitely a little out of date. I might have to set it up in a vmware session on the linux box and see if I can pipe the console to an internal serial port and read

Re: editing man pages for the blind in mind [was: Re: Calomel.org]

2012-07-27 Thread David Coppa
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, David Coppa wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: yep. looks like I need to come up to current then. 4.7 is definitely a little out of date. I might have to set it up in a vmware session on the linux box and see if I can pipe

Re: editing man pages for the blind in mind [was: Re: Calomel.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-07-26, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: one last item, the machine I am using to testbed this doesn't have a dedicated serial port (they no longer include those on commodity hardware anymore) so having the output routed there is out. -current can provide a full system console on a

Re: disk_map in subr_disk.c

2012-07-27 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:37:32PM +0200, Frank Brodbeck wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:51:56PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: Userland prorams do not share memory or symbols with the kernel at all that is a fundamental thing in Unix. Your code just references a bunch of uninitialized vars.

USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Jes
Hi: Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known issue. Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works: mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After resume there's no power in any usb port. My dmesg: OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC.MP) #365:

Re: sshguard

2012-07-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-07-25, Chris Lobkowicz chris.lobkow...@me.com wrote: sshguard prefers to use the log-sucker way of parsing authlog. I don't even have a mention of sshguard in syslog.conf. This is still using the log-sucker method, just on standard input rather than a file. the rc script just

Re: [5.1] pflow(4) flow with starttime *after* endtime

2012-07-27 Thread Hrvoje Popovski
On 26.7.2012. 18:31, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: Hello, We have just noticed that pflow (v5) sometime (but often) uses a StartTime value which is later than the EndTime. So the duration is interpreted 4294966.29600 secondes. This confuses our collector (nfsen). (wireshark) pdu

ipsec between 5.0 5.1

2012-07-27 Thread lilit-aibolit
Hi misc. is it possible?

Re: ipsec between 5.0 5.1

2012-07-27 Thread Mike Belopuhov
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:33 AM, lilit-aibolit lilit-aibo...@mail.ru wrote: Hi misc. is it possible? why wouldn't it be?

Re: Clues as to how to record audio

2012-07-27 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: If you want to record an intenet-streaming radio, just ftp(1) the htttp://radio.org:1234/stream.mp3 - I have written me a simple shell wrapper to do that: Personally, I've found curl(1) (ports/net/curl) with its --max-time option handy for that. -- Christian

Re: Windows 7 and IkeV2 VPN Issue

2012-07-27 Thread Mike Belopuhov
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Bentley, Dain dbent...@nas.edu wrote: Hello fellow OpenBSD users, I've run into a of couple issues with setting up and IKE IPSEC VPN with a windows 7 native client. Now I've ran through the lists and have found a solution to get it working somewhat how I'd

OpenNTPD as NTP server problem and the manual

2012-07-27 Thread f5b
1. Only after OpenNTPD server log(/var/log/daemon) display ntpd [] clock is now synced NTP client can now sync time successful. Should manual in ntpd ntpd.conf mention this for hurry man? 2. OpenNTPD server in local net(192.168.0.1) Windows 7 client sync time successful from 192.168.0.1

Re: Windows 7 and IkeV2 VPN Issue

2012-07-27 Thread Bentley, Dain
I see that now It appears after browsing through the lists more a.change was.comitted sometime in May or June that fixed the issue. Regards, Dain Bentley -Original Message- From: Mike Belopuhov [m...@crypt.org.ru] Received: Friday, 27 Jul 2012, 6:54am To: Bentley, Dain [dbent...@nas.edu]

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I use OpenOffice for editing html pages. this makes editing web pages remarkably easy for me. Believe me, editing raw html is a real pita. so, if I want to properly edit a man page, I need to use something that supports DOC 7? that wood be nice to have on my OS X system. Here's a really funny

Re: sshguard

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Lobkowicz
Hmm, good point. I hadn't considered the potential issues at upgrade time. Thanks for pointing that out and saving me significant frustration in November. On 27/07/2012 03:04, Stuart Henderson wrote: Editing scripts in /etc/rc.d will give you problems at upgrade time. I don't know where else we

thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread Pau
Hi, I am trying to install 5.1 on a thinkpad x220 with the i386 image. The system freezes at boot and the last line of dmesg is scsibus2 at umass1: 2 targets, initiatior 0 I am booting from an external usb-CD drive and tried from all usb ports and the result was the same. Using a recent (5.2)

Re: Calomel.org sucks ass

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
On 07/26/12 03:04, Peter Laufenberg wrote: Everytime you follow a non official documentation, you waste your time and the developer's time, we're not cranky about calomel only, we're cranky about people following unofficial documentation, remember, our FAQ and manpages are accurate 99.99% of

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:24:31PM +0200, Peter Laufenberg wrote: That said, the attitude you're displaying does no one any favors: nobody'ss here to make you feel special; either you're willing to put in the work or you aren't. Who the fuck do you think you are to use that tone? The royal

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Ted Unangst [t...@tedunangst.com] wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:53, Peter Laufenberg wrote: /reference/, they're not meant to solve high-level problems. The FAQs are really are no FAQs at all but a gigantic snowball with floppy install instructions crucially leaving out 5 1/4 and 8

Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known issue. Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works: mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After resume there's no power in any usb port. USB 3.0 interface are capable of supplying much

Re: Calomel.org [patch for the afterboot.8 man page]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 26 July 2012 18:14, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:23 AM, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: +.Pa http://www.openbsd.org/faq . mdoc(7) says Lk should be used for hyperlinks, though we don't actually do that in any of our manuals currently. I think it

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format?

Re: thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread Pau
PS: A bit more of info can be found here, a pic I took from dmesg http://i49.tinypic.com/zx2lbo.jpg On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Pau vim.u...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to install 5.1 on a thinkpad x220 with the i386 image. The system freezes at boot and the last line of

Re: Calomel.org [patch for the afterboot.8 man page]

2012-07-27 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:19 AM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote: Why is Pa only found in the MACRO REFERENCE section of mdoc(7) and not in the MACRO OVERVIEW? Is it deprecated? It's under the Semantic markup for command line utilities subsection.

Re: OpenNTPD as NTP server problem and the manual

2012-07-27 Thread Henning Brauer
* f5b f...@163.com [2012-07-27 13:02]: 1. Only after OpenNTPD server log(/var/log/daemon) display ntpd [] clock is now synced NTP client can now sync time successful. Should manual in ntpd ntpd.conf mention this for hurry man? no. wether the client accepts answers with the alarm flag

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Technomage Hawke
it was mentioned in another posting in this thread. I am not sure what uses that specific format. -eric On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:27 AM, ropers wrote: On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean the

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
something like that. also, you might see a few responses from my alternate email (technomage.hawke@***.***). I need to make sure my send field is set correctly. g. I am not sure what application would be good for editing (or creating) man pages such that I don't need to worry about all of

dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley
Hi, I'm trying to build a small mail server with OpenSmtpd, and Dovecot with the last OpenBSD (Snapshot+Updates = -current). OpenSmtpd config is OK. Now i want to install a Dovecot to use pop3s (995): export PKG_PATH=http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/ pkg_add

Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley
Sorry, something is missing, this error arrives just after : /etc/rc.d/dovecot start Any idea ? I have this error : Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8 starting upJ ul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm): pipe() failed:Too many open files Jd: Too

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: a braille API that works in Linux and all flavors of BSD: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=braille+screenreader+OpenBSDsource=we bcd=8ved=0CKsEEBYwBwurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhal.inria.fr%2Fdocs%2F00%2F13%2F59%2F

Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Jes
El Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:51:51 +0200 Martin Pieuchot mpieuc...@nolizard.org escribió: On 27/07/12(Fri) 10:54, Jes wrote: Hi: Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known issue. Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works: mouse,

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:27, ropers wrote: On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format? mdoc. I think his screen reader doesn't even read man

Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Jes
El Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:25:37 +0200 Peter Laufenberg open...@laufenberg.ch escribió: Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known issue. Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works: mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. I hope that was a text based pdf. the pdf app I use here (Safari) will spit a blank page at me in voiceover if its

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
h! that explains a lot. now I know where to go. :) On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Ted Unangst wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:27, ropers wrote: On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean

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Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Kurt Mosiejczuk
Eric Oyen wrote: I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. That's not your fault, that is Google (and everyone else) substituting their own

Re: thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread Pau
PPS: tried to boot from a flash usb drive... same result On Friday, July 27, 2012, Pau wrote: PS: A bit more of info can be found here, a pic I took from dmesg http://i49.tinypic.com/zx2lbo.jpg On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Pau vim.u...@googlemail.comjavascript:; wrote: Hi, I am

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:51:46PM -0400, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote: Eric Oyen wrote: I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. That's not your fault,

Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley
I tried this : ulimit -a give me : time(cpu-seconds)unlimited file(blocks) unlimited coredump(blocks) unlimited data(kbytes) 2097152 stack(kbytes)8192 lockedmem(kbytes)1016125 memory(kbytes) 3043896 nofiles(descriptors) 7030 processes1310

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Dennis Davis
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, ropers wrote: From: ropers rop...@gmail.com To: Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:25:14 Subject: Re: man page contents [was: Re: C**.org] ... Even with that, I didn't quite manage with OpenBSD (there seems to

Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Mark Patruck
Create the new login class for dovecot as stated here and you should be fine. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/mail/dovecot/pkg/README-server?rev=1.1 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:18:21PM +0400, Wesley wrote: I tried this : ulimit -a give me : time(cpu-seconds)unlimited

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 18:51, Kurt Mosiejczuk kurt-openbsd-m...@se.rit.edu wrote: Eric Oyen wrote: I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. That's not your

Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley
As i said in the last reply, i modified Default and daemon class openfiles-cur value to 2048. I think it is better to follow your link, create a dovecot class and add the value. Thank you a lot. (Andre and Mark) -- Wesley Le 2012-07-27 21:36, Andre Keller a écrit : Hi Am 27.07.2012 19:18,

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 19:11, Marc Espie wrote: I'm surprised there aren't more plugins to fix that. Especially since the link shows the actual location, encoded ! maybe try this? pretty simple, worksforme (c). http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/107272

Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Andre Keller
Hi Am 27.07.2012 19:18, schrieb Wesley: Perhaps i need to play with openfiles-cur keyword in /etc/login.conf... So i increased 'default class' 512 to 2048, 'daemon class' 128 to 2048. Seems to work ;-) Did you even look into the readme, that mark pointed out?

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
well, the PDF appears to be very readable in Safari. This is a pleasant surprise indeed. I have run across some PDF files doing a google search that were nothing but a series of JPG images (containing text) which locked me out of viewing them without an OCR tool. My opinion is that if anyone

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 05:36:38PM +1000, David Diggles wrote: The calomel phenomenon is fascinating! I was calomeled. Those who have been calomeled have done the following: 1. lazily google: openbsd tuning (or similar) 2. click on: Network Tuning and Performance Guide (OpenBSD) -

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Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread mxb
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: Calomel is ranked 2 on google There is must be a reason why this kind of sites exists. Ppl whom take care of www.openbsd.org documentation/FAQ maybe have to take a look and pinpoint what is missing? For some reason ppl refer to

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Calomel is ranked 2 on google because it has been linked several hundred times from this list. Google doesn't know about good/bad opinions or flamewars. Google only cares about the reputation of the origin of the link. I don't think that's true; google link:calomel.org -site:calomel.org to find

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 22:51, mxb wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: Calomel is ranked 2 on google There is must be a reason why this kind of sites exists. Ppl whom take care of www.openbsd.org documentation/FAQ maybe have to take a look and

[www.openbsd.org] faster machines and scareware

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
a lot of people get sucked into the scareware (al la cleanmypc, macdefender, etc.). most of them don't understand (or want to) how their machines operate. to them, its a black box. Usually, they just install anything that sounds zippy to them and then end up spending lots of money to get back to

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Brett
that may be another method of viewing a man page You can use: man manpagename | col -b file to convert a page to a text file, this might be easier for you to read/edit. Brett.

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Eric Oyen writes: h. that may be another method of viewing a man page, converting it to a text based PDF. that is something to consider. mandoc supports PDF output as well. For example, with the following command: mandoc -Tpdf /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1 /tmp/ls.pdf

Re: thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread ml
Hi Pau, Owner of a Thinkpad x220 here. As far as I can remember, my laptop does actually 'freeze' for a few minutes when booting from usb flash drive. This does not happen after installation. Please wait around 5-10 minutes or more, everything should work fine after that. Regards, Alex P.S.