Re: ImageMagick and perl

2013-01-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-01-12, Stefan Sperling s...@openbsd.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 01:51:55PM +0100, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:31:40PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: Set LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libpthread.so Thanks, it solved the problem for me. Now, do I have to

Re: ImageMagick and perl

2013-01-13 Thread Brad Smith
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:54:05AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: It doesn't need to actually be built with support for threads, just to be linked with -lpthread. It doesn't but there is no point putting the effort in and not doing so. I have run into a few Perl projects over the years that do

Re: ImageMagick and perl

2013-01-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013/01/13 07:03, Brad Smith wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:54:05AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: It doesn't need to actually be built with support for threads, just to be linked with -lpthread. It doesn't but there is no point putting the effort in and not doing so. I have run

OT using absolute paths in scripts

2013-01-13 Thread Maximo Pech
At work, we have an information security area for IT. They mandate that on all shell scripts we have to use absolute paths for every single command. I feel that this does not provide real security and only makes scripts somewhat more painful to write. What's your opinion on this?

Re: X issues with Intel HD 2000 graphics card on ASUS P8 H61 mobo

2013-01-13 Thread Zoran Kolic
Late reply, but I see it searching for this chip. You might be lucky if you add few lines in xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option DontZapoff Option AutoAddDevices false EndSection See if it works for you. Zoran

Re: OT using absolute paths in scripts

2013-01-13 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Well, If a user's $PATH gets compromised, they may run ~/saltedls instead of /bin/ls... dunno, something like that. If you use variables at the beginning of the script it becomes somewhat less painful.

Re: OT using absolute paths in scripts

2013-01-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:04:08AM -0600, Maximo Pech wrote: At work, we have an information security area for IT. They mandate that on all shell scripts we have to use absolute paths for every single command. I feel that this does not provide real security and only makes scripts somewhat

Re: OT using absolute paths in scripts

2013-01-13 Thread Nick Holland
On 01/13/13 12:03, Maximo Pech wrote: At work, we have an information security area for IT. They mandate that on all shell scripts we have to use absolute paths for every single command. I feel that this does not provide real security and only makes scripts somewhat more painful to write.

How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Random, Eyes
I have an OpenBSD 5.1 installed + a cable from my ISP. I have the username/password for the PPPoE connection, but how can I configure the connection to be permanent? (I have 1 interface on the machine.)

Re: OT using absolute paths in scripts

2013-01-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 07:12:23PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:04:08AM -0600, Maximo Pech wrote: At work, we have an information security area for IT. They mandate that on all shell scripts we have to use absolute paths for every single command. I feel that

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Denis Fondras
Hi, Le 13/01/2013 19:37, Random, Eyes a écrit : I have an OpenBSD 5.1 installed + a cable from my ISP. I have the username/password for the PPPoE connection, but how can I configure the connection to be permanent? (I have 1 interface on the machine.) man 4 pppoe is the way to go.

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Michał Markowski
2013/1/13 Random, Eyes randome...@postafiok.hu: I have an OpenBSD 5.1 installed + a cable from my ISP. I have the username/password for the PPPoE connection, but how can I configure the connection to be permanent? (I have 1 interface on the machine.) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=openbsd+pppoe --

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Franco Fichtner
On Jan 13, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Michał Markowski markows...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/13 Random, Eyes randome...@postafiok.hu: I have an OpenBSD 5.1 installed + a cable from my ISP. I have the username/password for the PPPoE connection, but how can I configure the connection to be permanent? (I

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com writes: There should be a let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you for that sort of thing. I mean the first hit is the man page, and apparently it's very hard for some people to get over such additional hurdles. [Sun Jan 13 19:41:39] peter@deeperthought:~$ apropos

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Michał Markowski
2013/1/13 Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com: There should be a let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you for that sort of thing Well, there is apropos(1). :) -- Michał Markowski

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Jay Jennings
Rudeness is why people find openbsd hard for newbies; and potentially new funders of the projects and buyers of cds and merchandise.  As a 5 year user ... apropos is a new page for me too. Thank you for the suggestion.  Original message From: Michał Markowski

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Jay Jennings l...@equineform.com writes: Rudeness is why people find openbsd hard for newbies; and potentially new funders of the projects and buyers of cds and merchandise.  As a 5 year user ... apropos is a new page for me too. In this case I'd call it 'terseness' rather than 'rudeness',

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 08:42:37PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Jay Jennings l...@equineform.com writes: Rudeness is why people find openbsd hard for newbies; and potentially new funders of the projects and buyers of cds and merchandise.?? As a 5 year user ... apropos is a new

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Mihai Popescu
Would it help to put a link to so called FAQ in the right on the first page of www? Perhaps just below the T-shirts and posters, reading Here you can find help about your questions and for installing. New for me is the basements machines picture ... it looks awesome.

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Denis Fondras
Le 13/01/2013 21:48, Mihai Popescu a écrit : Would it help to put a link to so called FAQ in the right on the first page of www? Perhaps just below the T-shirts and posters, reading Here you can find help about your questions and for installing. New for me is the basements machines picture ...

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com writes: Would it help to put a link to so called FAQ in the right on the first page of www? Well, there already is one FAQ link from the front page, under the OpenBSD Resources heading. Would adding another link to the dead center of the page help? I honestly

Re: Use pax instead of cpio in FAQ 14.4 (Adding extra disks)

2013-01-13 Thread Barry Grumbine
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Jiri B ji...@devio.us wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 01:10:16AM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: I tend to recommend dump|restore, but those aren't on bsd.rd. Really? I had feeling that the best way to do disaster recovery is to use bsd.rd, make partitioning

Re: Unused swap

2013-01-13 Thread Barry Grumbine
I ran into the same problem. Was running into the datasize-cur=512M limit in the staff section of login.conf I'm not saying this is the right thing to do, but I bumped it to 1024M and haven't had a firefox seg-fault since. This is a system I use as my desktop, so I'm not concerned with other

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-01-13, Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com wrote: There should be a let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you for that sort of thing. There is - post the question to misc@! Or if there only was a way to search in man pages. :) But you'd half to read the manual for man(1) to learn all about

Re: Unused swap

2013-01-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-01-13, Barry Grumbine barry.grumb...@gmail.com wrote: $ ulimit -d 1048575 $ ulimit -d 1048576 ksh: ulimit: exceeds allowable limit Once you have set it, you can only set it to a lower value. (Also, with login.conf you need to make sure it is a totally fresh login. If you're using

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Eric Furman
No one has been rude. They have just provided useful information. Information that any first year UNIX user should know. Many peoples gaps in UNIX knowledge, I believe, would be filled by just picking up a book on basic UNIX. There are many. Instead people just surf the internet and read FAQs and

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Aaron Mason
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net wrote: No one has been rude. They have just provided useful information. Information that any first year UNIX user should know. Many peoples gaps in UNIX knowledge, I believe, would be filled by just picking up a book on

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013, at 02:26 PM, Jay Jennings wrote: Rudeness is why people find openbsd hard for newbies; and potentially new funders of the projects and buyers of cds and merchandise. Jay is the rude person here. Someone helps him, and he insults them. The world would be better off

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread list
My apologies to all; I didn't mean to be trolling or rude back to those helpful on the list. I just felt off putting comments like let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you are not the right way to treat those who support your projects. A response back like: check the man pages, check the faqs,

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread John Long
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:26:32AM -0800, Jay Jennings wrote: Rudeness is why people find openbsd hard for newbies; and potentially new funders of the projects and buyers of cds and merchandise.?? As a 5 year user ... apropos is a new page for me too. I prefer typing man -k, but whatever

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
My apologies to all; I didn't mean to be trolling or rude back to those helpful on the list. I just felt off putting comments like let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you are not the right way to treat those who support your projects. How do you, specifically, support our projects? Must be pretty

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Franco Fichtner
On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:28 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2013-01-13, Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com wrote: There should be a let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you for that sort of thing. There is - post the question to misc@! Or if there only was a way to search in man

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Janne Johansson
2013/1/14 Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com: You need to understand that people asking question here have no idea about the marvellous man pages in OpenBSD and they never will (because then they would not be asking in the first place). If it weren't for jmc@'s love for tweaking man pages I'd

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Eric Furman
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Oh, and read BOOKS. Not just the Internet. And if you stay on these lists long enough you WILL be insulted by Theo. That's just a fact of life. Deal with it. Hell, he even managed to insult Nick. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013, at 12:26 AM, list wrote: My

Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?

2013-01-13 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 Jan 14 (Mon) at 08:17:08 +0100 (+0100), Franco Fichtner wrote: :Teaching is hard, but being impatient and judgmental on people asking :questions is not the way, especially on an open mailing list. Having :'annoying' questions pop up again and again is an opportunity to do :something