Re: Fuse on OpenBSD

2013-07-04 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 2013-07-03 18:55, Theo de Raadt wrote: About a month ago, I followed up on tech@ that some fuse support had been merged into the kernel, but disable by default. (By the way, congrats and thanks to the devs for that! :D) I'm wondering if there's any timeframe for this getting enabled

Re: Softraid performance: CRYPTO on top of RAID 1?

2013-07-04 Thread Andrey Mitroshin
similar CRYPTO on RAID 1 configuration Could you please supply some details of how did you do that? On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 02:33:51AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Erling Westenvik wrote: Hi folks, Anyone having any experience with putting an softraid CRYPTO partition on

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread David Gwynne
On 03/07/2013, at 10:11 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 07:00:02 -0500, Loïc Blot loic.b...@unix-experience.fr wrote: Hello, no carp is used at this time. pfsync needs to be used with carp... without it you're just playing whack-a-mole with your session table.

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread David Gwynne
On 03/07/2013, at 6:23 PM, Loïc Blot loic.b...@unix-experience.fr wrote: Okay, defer is now enabled on pfsync interface (sorry for my last idea, i haven't the man on me :) ). It seems the problem isn't resolved. The transfer starts but blocked at random time. i have hit this too, despite

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread BARDOU Pierre
Hello, I don't know if this may help you, but I have a working BGP setup with two routers active/active. I don't use pfsync, but keep state (sloppy). This is less secure according to pf.conf(5), but that's not really a concern for me as those routers are not my border firewalls... But maybe I

IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Andy
Hi misc, We have what should be a simple VPN routing issue but I can't figure out what to do with the IPSec config. We have many remote office firewalls with IPSec tunnels linking to our head office (hub and spoke topology), each defining Phase 2 policies mapping the remote internal networks

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Anders Berggren
When I try to do a ping or otherwise on the remote firewalls to the head office lan, I get a 'no route to host' error which implies that the IPSec vpn policy route which can be seen in the 'route show' is not being used as the source IP of the ping/payload is not going to have the firewalls

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Andy
Hi, Yes that does work and is the problem as mentioned, but I don't know how to change the source address for the 'netcat' command payload? Ping was just a test to see what is going on.. Cheers, Andy. On Thu 04 Jul 2013 14:08:41 BST, Anders Berggren wrote: When I try to do a ping or

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Anders Berggren
Perhaps you've created flows from our LAN network range only? If so, for a ping to work, you need to specify the local IP, like ping -I 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 how to change the source address for the 'netcat' command payload? According to http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=nc it

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Anders Berggren
Perhaps you've created flows from our LAN network range only? If so, for a ping to work, you need to specify the local IP, like ping -I 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 how to change the source address for the 'netcat' command payload? According to http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=nc it

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Andy
PS; Its also not limited to netcat (if it were I would just use the -s switch on netcat).. I have other daemons on the remote firewalls that I need to also 'phone home', and so I believe I need to do it by either changing/adding the VPN policies or packet mangling with PF.. I'd rather not

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Anders Berggren
I'd rather not have to create extra tunnels or define VPN policies with subnets which have prefixes wider than the internal LANs. That leaves mangling, but I cannot see how I would do the mangling in PF to make it work without doing a redirect through the loopback etc.. Just wondering if

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread Andy
On Thu 04 Jul 2013 15:22:55 BST, Anders Berggren wrote: I'd rather not have to create extra tunnels or define VPN policies with subnets which have prefixes wider than the internal LANs. That leaves mangling, but I cannot see how I would do the mangling in PF to make it work without doing a

Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5

2013-07-04 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello guys, Tuesday, July 2, 2013, 5:53:04 PM, Nick Holland wrote: NH RAID5 rebuild is still not there - there's no RAID5 rebuild. I'm not NH sure how to make it more clear... NH Ok, let's try this... NH Today, you take four 1TB disks, and make a 3TB RAID5 volume. You can do NH that. Works

Shutdown procedure

2013-07-04 Thread Jean Lucas
Hi all, I've a Dell Studio Hybrid 140g running July 2nd's amd64 snapshot. When I reboot/shutdown, on startup, the first stage loader doesn't load. The machine is stuck, and I think it's because of the shutdown procedure in OpenBSD and acpi compatibility with this machine. The problem has

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-04 Thread mxb
I use OSPFd on each OpenSBD firewall I deploy. This way you get access to all machines on the remote LAN, including firewall itself. and you don't have to maintain routing manually. //mxb On 4 jul 2013, at 16:25, Andy a...@brandwatch.com wrote: On Thu 04 Jul 2013 15:22:55 BST, Anders Berggren

Re: Softraid performance: CRYPTO on top of RAID 1?

2013-07-04 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 05:20:30PM -0400, Jiri B wrote: On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 02:33:51AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: [...snip...] FWIW one of my servers (handles mail, etc) is a Sun Fire V210 (sparc64) machine with 2x1GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and a pair of SCSI drives - it runs perfectly well in a

Re: Compiling and debugging custom ralink driver for 5.3 GENERIC (release)

2013-07-04 Thread Remco
On Wednesday 03 July 2013 19:11:19 Nathan Goings wrote: ... I would think if the attach failed it would be in /var/log/messages. How would I debug this? If the attach is failing, I might try crafting it to use a different driver. (guess I should try printf) I usually use printfs in places

Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5

2013-07-04 Thread Nick Holland
On 07/04/13 09:46, Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello guys, ... If the softraid is so raw yet, why the old good RAIDFrame was removed starting the 5.2? It works just fine for me. Big volumes rebuilds take a long while, but it's something working. That's quite a leap from RAID 5 is not ready for

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
[pfsync w/o carp] * Mark Felder f...@feld.me [2013-07-03 16:37]: First of all, the states of node 1 being synced to node 2 and vice versa is worthless because they have different IP addresses; the states wont match anything. orly. have you actually LOOKED at your state table? pfctl -vvss to

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* mxb m...@alumni.chalmers.se [2013-07-03 17:33]: States ARE synced. IPs are not the same on node1 and node2 for external. The you initiated connection to ftp.fr, you done it via node1 with its external IP. On node2 those packets will be DROPPED as those do not belong to external NIC on

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* BARDOU Pierre bardo...@mipih.fr [2013-07-04 14:38]: I don't know if this may help you, but I have a working BGP setup with two routers active/active. I don't use pfsync, but keep state (sloppy). This is less secure according to pf.conf(5), but that's not really a concern for me as those

Re: Fuse on OpenBSD

2013-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* openda...@hushmail.com openda...@hushmail.com [2013-07-04 05:09]: Why do we need FUSE anyway? it's a firewall between filesystem code written by people who shouldn't write filesystem code and our kernel. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de,

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread Mark Felder
My apologies for just being noise; I missed his first full post with much more detail. I was picturing him trying to run redundant servers without CARP and running into issues of states disappearing.

Re: Fuse on OpenBSD

2013-07-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
* openda...@hushmail.com openda...@hushmail.com [2013-07-04 05:09]: Why do we need FUSE anyway? it's a firewall between filesystem code written by people who shouldn't write filesystem code and our kernel. not really. it is a simpler to understand interface, than the other userland

Re: Fuse on OpenBSD

2013-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org [2013-07-04 20:19]: but henning, you just used the word firewall. you're going to be mocked forever. firewall? me? I write packet filter code :) -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP

Re: Compiling and debugging custom ralink driver for 5.3 GENERIC (release)

2013-07-04 Thread Nathan Goings
On 7/4/2013 10:27 AM, Remco wrote: On Wednesday 03 July 2013 19:11:19 Nathan Goings wrote: ... I would think if the attach failed it would be in /var/log/messages. How would I debug this? If the attach is failing, I might try crafting it to use a different driver. (guess I should try printf)

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread mxb
Henning, with all respect(!), I'd cut you off with this home NATing. My home is far more simple than need of active-active CARP (IT IS NOT as of writing) With all respect to ALL devs working and pushing new code upstreams, we still have MP-problems. For sure, I'm not the one to fix this - I

Re: Compiling and debugging custom ralink driver for 5.3 GENERIC (release)

2013-07-04 Thread Remco
On Thursday 04 July 2013 20:33:16 Nathan Goings wrote: Thanks! I was just about to ask how to get more verbose output. What is printfs? It's my plural for printf. Finally, Is there a way to re-test the driver match/attach without rebooting? I don't think so, unless your device is

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello all, thanks for this interesting debate about pf syncing. To remember my initial question: pfsync seems to sync states but not correctly on my BGP+OSPF routers. Because each BGP router is master/standby to 2 neighbors (full meshed bgp) packets which are outgoing by one router can income by

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread Marko Cupać
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 21:30:56 +0200 Loïc BLOT loic.b...@unix-experience.fr wrote: Hello all, thanks for this interesting debate about pf syncing. To remember my initial question: pfsync seems to sync states but not correctly on my BGP+OSPF routers. Because each BGP router is master/standby

Re: Compiling and debugging custom ralink driver for 5.3 GENERIC (release)

2013-07-04 Thread Nathan Goings
On 7/4/2013 10:27 AM, Remco wrote: It has an AUTOCONF_VERBOSE define that can be used to get more verbose output, though I don't remember how useful it is. Looking at config(8), I think you should be able to set it in your copy of the GENERIC file as: option AUTOCONF_VERBOSE=1 ugh, I enabled

Re: PF sync doesn't not work very well

2013-07-04 Thread David Gwynne
you could try using sloppy states like henning suggested. you'll still get to write stateful rules and get the tcp state machine checks but not the tcp window checks. if it works with sloppy states it narrows the issue down to the pfsync state merge code. at the moment im kind of guessing

Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread Thomas Jennings
Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a good date to do so since my reasons address national security implications. As a group of people who take development, security,

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread Ryan R
Please pass point to the code which you believe to be the backdoor so that I may review it myself. Thanks On Jul 4, 2013 10:57 PM, Thomas Jennings thomas.jennings...@gmail.com wrote: Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread Tito Mari Francis Escaño
I was initially thinking this is a troll, but with these quotes: ...was prepping to migrate the whole of our shop, a regional ISP in the United States of America, to OpenBSD 5.3... Pray tell what regional ISP you speak of here to earn their deserved praise or ridicule for avoiding the OpenBSD

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread Zamri Besar
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Tito Mari Francis Escaño titomarifran...@gmail.com wrote: I was initially thinking this is a troll, but with these quotes: I vote for another troll... but... this year April Fool was over 3 months ago. -- Thank you. Zamri Besar

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread opendaddy
On 5. juli 2013 at 4:30 AM, Tito Mari Francis Escaño titomarifran...@gmail.com wrote: [...snip...] Can't you tell by the way he wrote that that he's just a kid (or an uneducated adult)? I oughta smack y'all faces in for even replying to this shit. O.D.

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread eric oyen
Inquiring minds want to know…. Please cite the sources for your assertions (including links to actual sources and documents). In all honesty, it sounds like you have a personal problem with the man himself. As for OpenBSD, I've found it to be a hell of a lot more secure than most of the other

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread opendaddy
On 5. juli 2013 at 4:59 AM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: My only problem (and it seems none of the devs really understand this) is that I must have sighted assistance to install and initially configure the OS. What do you mean sighted assistance? O.D.

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 11:56:50PM -0400, Thomas Jennings wrote: Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a good date to do so since my reasons address national

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread opendaddy
On 5. juli 2013 at 5:13 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: I actually, no, we don't. You're not anybody I've ever heard of, and your opinion doesn't matter. I have no particular reason to trust you. They said the same of Edward Snowden you know. Now, I read your hilarious email. You have

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread Jean-Francois Simon
May I understand you U go for Microsoft instead ? That would be great idea, they are said to be free from backdoors. Sorry Le 05/07/2013 05:56, Thomas Jennings a écrit : Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share my reasoning

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-04 Thread opendaddy
On 5. juli 2013 at 5:31 AM, Jean-Francois Simon jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: May I understand you U go for Microsoft instead ? That would be great idea, they are said to be free from backdoors. Sorry France is in the house y'all. O.D.