2013/9/19 hru...@gmail.com
Alexander Hall alexan...@beard.se wrote:
Marc already anwered all your questions. Let me quote it.
Fuck off
The most brilliant answers of the experts:
An old quote which fits nicely here:
A book is a mirror: if an ape looks into it an apostle is hardly
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:01:13 +0200, Janne Johansson wrote:
2013/9/19 hru...@gmail.com
Alexander Hall alexan...@beard.se wrote:
Marc already anwered all your questions. Let me quote it.
Fuck off
The most brilliant answers of the experts:
An old quote which fits nicely here:
A book is
* Andy a...@brandwatch.com [2013-09-17 15:36]:
On Tue 17 Sep 2013 13:48:45 BST, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2013-09-16, Andy a...@brandwatch.com wrote:
Planning to test Hennings new ALTQ subsystem diff on OpenBSD 5.4 with
this hardware :D
pardon the pedantry, but it's not altq..
Lol, yes
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:14, Henning Brauer wrote:
*ALTQ's replacement..
Does it have a name yet, or are you sticking with; new super duper
simple prio queuer?
I'm not into marketing. It's just the new queueing subsystem.
JTNQ it is, then.
On Thursday, September 19, 2013, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:14, Henning Brauer wrote:
*ALTQ's replacement..
Does it have a name yet, or are you sticking with; new super duper
simple prio queuer?
I'm not into marketing. It's just the new queueing subsystem.
JTNQ
Personally, I'm an long time fvwm user. My partner wouldn't know where to
start nor care to learn how to use that. Which is why I need to install a DE.
Years ago I did use KDE3 and liked it but changed because I did not like KDE4.
Don't forget especially with xfce you can take just parts of
Hello, everybody.
A few days ago I've bought a new ups, as a replacement for my old one, which
got it's last way to junkyard.
The old one had RS232 порт, and the new one is an USB ups.
Trying different ways to connect it to OpenBSD, but everything I've tried fails.
The UPS reports itself as:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:20:14PM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
Hello, everybody.
A few days ago I've bought a new ups, as a replacement for my old one, which
got it's last way to junkyard.
The old one had RS232 порт, and the new one is an USB ups.
Trying different ways to connect it to
On 19/09/13(Thu) 12:20, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
Hello, everybody.
A few days ago I've bought a new ups, as a replacement for my old one, which
got it's last way to junkyard.
The old one had RS232 порт, and the new one is an USB ups.
Trying different ways to connect it to OpenBSD, but
On 09/19/2013 12:20 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
Hello, everybody.
A few days ago I've bought a new ups, as a replacement for my old one, which
got it's last way to junkyard.
The old one had RS232 порт, and the new one is an USB ups.
Trying different ways to connect it to OpenBSD, but
pkesh...@gmail.com (patrick keshishian), 2013.09.19 (Thu) 09:39 (CEST):
On Thursday, September 19, 2013, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:14, Henning Brauer wrote:
*ALTQ's replacement..
Does it have a name yet, or are you sticking with; new super duper
simple prio queuer?
On 19 September 2013, Gregory Edigarov ediga...@qarea.com wrote:
On 09/19/2013 12:20 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
Hello, everybody.
A few days ago I've bought a new ups, as a replacement for my old
one, which got it's last way to junkyard. The old one had RS232
, and the new one is
My vote - *HENQ
Chickens lined up..
On Thu 19 Sep 2013 11:34:03 BST, MERIGHI Marcus wrote:
pkesh...@gmail.com (patrick keshishian), 2013.09.19 (Thu) 09:39 (CEST):
On Thursday, September 19, 2013, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:14, Henning Brauer wrote:
*ALTQ's replacement..
I want to give a hint for those working till now in the problem of
estimating the probability of A=B under the condition of hash(A)=hash(B).
Just suppose that hash is any function from a set X to Y, first suppose
that X is finite (but very big), and that the probability to pick any
element is
This part:
VOP_FSYNC() at VOP_FSYNC+0x2f
ffs_sync_vnode() at ffs_sync_vnode+0x77
vfs_mount_foreach_vnode() at vfs_mount_foreach_vnode+0x38
ffs_sync() at ffs_sync+0x83
sys_sync() at sys_sync+0xa1
vfs_syncwait() at vfs_syncwait+0x50
vfs_shutdown() at vfs_shutdown+0x32
boot() at boot+0x17f
Rodrigo,
was there anything wrong with my answer below (and others equal),
apart from it not being the one you wanted, since you keep repeating
the same question over and over again?
Do you have a better answer? Please share it for us to check.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 03:58:34PM +0200, Raimo
On 2013-09-19, MERIGHI Marcus mcmer-open...@tor.at wrote:
Other obvious suggestions: HENQ, NEWQ, PQ
pff, the old one was ALTQ, clearly this should be NEUQ ;)
On 2013-09-19, Martin Pieuchot mpieuc...@nolizard.org wrote:
nut depends on the libusb to talk to the ups, and to be fully
functional with the libusb your device must be attached to
ugen(4). That's why usb_quirks.c contains various UPS.
Actually, NUT is perfectly happy with many UPS attached
On 2013-09-19, Gregory Edigarov ediga...@qarea.com wrote:
I've connected it to Windows via USB, and installed software which
came with it, snooped the protocol, and I am dead sure it is an old and
frayed Megatec/Q1, which should work with blazer_usb driver from nut.
But it isn't. Seems I've
Raimo Niskanen raimo+open...@erix.ericsson.se wrote:
Rodrigo,
was there anything wrong with my answer below (and others equal),
apart from it not being the one you wanted, since you keep repeating
the same question over and over again?
Do you have a better answer? Please share it for us
On 09/19/2013 04:18 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2013-09-19, Gregory Edigarov ediga...@qarea.com wrote:
I've connected it to Windows via USB, and installed software which
came with it, snooped the protocol, and I am dead sure it is an old and
frayed Megatec/Q1, which should work with
fair for the german, it is not zen tough
NEUQ, like NUKE ?
i vote for TheQueue, because What else ?!
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.orgwrote:
On 2013-09-19, MERIGHI Marcus mcmer-open...@tor.at wrote:
Other obvious suggestions: HENQ, NEWQ, PQ
pff, the
2013/9/19 Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org
On 2013-09-19, MERIGHI Marcus mcmer-open...@tor.at wrote:
Other obvious suggestions: HENQ, NEWQ, PQ
pff, the old one was ALTQ, clearly this should be NEUQ ;)
NEUQ sound like a region from Argentina: Neuquén
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:50:16AM -0700, latin...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
On Wed, September 18, 2013 6:28 pm, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote:
I've just came on this:
http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/2013-September/010649.html
Just a short quote of it:
Hi, today we've made the first
On Wed, September 18, 2013 6:28 pm, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote:
I've just came on this:
http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/2013-September/010649.html
Just a short quote of it:
Hi, today we've made the first release of OSv, a new operating system
for running applications on
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Jiri B ji...@devio.us wrote:
Because it was Isreali Qumranet which was developing
KVM a lot and tools around and which was then bought
by Red Hat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Bar_%28investor%29
On 09/19/2013 08:46 AM, hru...@gmail.com wrote:
From time to time I think I should follow Kenneth Westerbacks
recomendation
and go to a math-for-idiots list, for example to Usenet Group
sci.math,
and then make a link to this thread in gmane: they will sure admire
Marc
Espies wisdom and his
Does OpenBSD plan to varify its (main) components, to
reach the level of zero-bug software?
If not, isn't there any concern that (future) varified OS
will render OBSD redundant one day?
/jo
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 01:46:20PM +, hru...@gmail.com wrote:
Raimo, if people believe that hash(A)=hash(B) implies A=B, so strong
believe, that they use it in their programs,
It's a matter of engineering. Usually that is good enough.
If you don't think it's good enough then you should
Since I mentioned the likelihood of a non-recoverable disk error,
here's a terrific paper that should make everbody sleep very poorly:
An Analysis of Data Corruption in the Storage Stack
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/fast08.pdf
--
Christian naddy Weisgerber
Interesting thread...
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network.
From: josef.winger@email.deSent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:30 PMTo:
misc@openbsd.orgSubject: Verified OS concerns
Does OpenBSD plan to varify its (main) components, to
reach the level of
josef.win...@email.de writes:
Does OpenBSD plan to varify its (main) components, to
reach the level of zero-bug software?
If not, isn't there any concern that (future) varified OS
will render OBSD redundant one day?
I remain unconvinced that it's possible to formally verify non-trivial
code
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:14:37PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a general purpose OS with the
basic reliability of my car,
Actually, it looks more and more like the reverse is coming true.
Hi there, I have this ancient IBM/lenovo T60 with me while working
off-site. This machine used to be a reliable workhorse until recently.
Since roughly around the time of the ABI changes to 64-bit time I get
annoyed by 2~3 crashes per day. I usually run OpenBSD's latest snapshots
on it and I can
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:29:39PM +0200, josef.win...@email.de wrote:
Does OpenBSD plan to varify its (main) components, to
reach the level of zero-bug software?
No. Zeno convinced us that you can't get there from here.
If not, isn't there any concern that (future) varified OS
will render
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 22:29, josef.win...@email.de wrote:
Does OpenBSD plan to varify its (main) components, to
reach the level of zero-bug software?
If not, isn't there any concern that (future) varified OS
will render OBSD redundant one day?
Short answer: no. Long answer: still no.
On 09/19/2013 04:29 PM, josef.win...@email.de wrote:
Does OpenBSD plan to varify its (main) components, to
reach the level of zero-bug software?
you mean, painfully reviewing and auditing code?
what do you think they've been trying to do for the last 15 years?
And after that, they have been
Send a second time as this webmail-programm changed to HTML again... this
mail should be better to read.
Hi there,
I have this ancient IBM/lenovo T60 with me while working off-site. This machine
used to be a reliable workhorse until recently. Since roughly around the time
of the ABI
Since I mentioned the likelihood of a non-recoverable disk error,
here's a terrific paper that should make everbody sleep very poorly:
An Analysis of Data Corruption in the Storage Stack
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/fast08.pdf
They claim the paper is based on 1.53 million disk
On 09/20/13 00:00, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting thread...
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
network.
this is misc@, not twitter.
while i finally reply to message by you, i want to ask a question.
how about dropping at least the 'Wireless'
Hi there, working off-site for a few days I took my ancient IBM/lenovo
T60 (i386 - bsd.mp) with me. Two days ago I upgraded to the latest
snapshot, #61 as of September, 17th, from openbsd.cs.fau.de. (dmesg at
the end) Tonight I updated /usr/src via cvs. It appeared to me that a
whole copy of /usr
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:49:56PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
| Since I mentioned the likelihood of a non-recoverable disk error,
| here's a terrific paper that should make everbody sleep very poorly:
|
| An Analysis of Data Corruption in the Storage Stack
|
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:44:20PM +0200, Stefan Wollny wrote:
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this mail should be better to read.
Hi there,
I have this ancient IBM/lenovo T60 with me while working off-site. This
machine used to be a reliable
Hi Philip,
thank you for taking the time to reply: Of course, you are 100% right - without
proper crash reports such complaints are rather useless. But I cannot describe
a reproduceabel situation that leads to a crash. The only common circumstance
is that the crashes occured when running X.
Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com wrote:
An Analysis of Data Corruption in the Storage Stack
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/fast08.pdf
They claim the paper is based on 1.53 million disk drives.
It is interesting they were able to access such a number.
The paper is based on NetApp
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Stefan Wollny stefan.wol...@web.de wrote:
I have this ancient IBM/lenovo T60 with me while working off-site. This
machine used to be a reliable workhorse until recently. Since roughly around
the time of the ABI changes to 64-bit time I get annoyed by 2~3
josef.win...@email.de writes:
Right, a varified full flaged OS is still future.
But there is nevertheless progress and affort.
Thanks for the pointeres, but anytime this comes up, an old AI
witticism turns up at the back of my head,
If our mind were so simple we could actually
pe...@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes:
systems that have developed in response to real-world needs and formal
standards specifications that at least in some cases more likely than
not were in any way verified even to be internally consistent.
missing a 'never' in there. clearer?
--
I suspect one of the crashes has corrupted the filesystem holding your
cvs checkouts. I'd suggest newfs, restoring any important data on that
partition from backups, and re-fetching replaceable data (cvs checkouts
etc) from another source.
On 2013-09-19, Stefan Wollny stefan.wol...@web.de wrote:
There is a fuse implmentation, however as mentioned, it is rather slow.
It's main targets were reading ZFS volumes on Linux and OSX. It is also
rather outdated in favor of the native Linux port (abandoning OSX.) A
better starting point would be the FreeBSD port, but it will still
remain CDDL
I have an amd64 laptop (Thinkpad T60) whose /, /var, and /usr are
standard FFS partitions (dksklabel fstype 4.2BSD), while /home is
encrypted via softraid crypto: on boot I login as root, and run a perl
script which executes (with lots of error checking optional logging)
# sd0 is the built-in
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 21:41, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
# bioctl softraid1
bioctl: Can't locate softraid1 device via /dev/bio
and a quick grep through dmesg reveals only one softraid device
(softraid0) mentioned.
Question: What's the right way to have multiple independent softraid
crypto
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