Re: PF rules loading bug on OpenBSD 5.6

2014-12-03 Thread David Dahlberg
Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2014, 11:08 +0800 schrieb Cosmo Wu: and it parsed correctly using command pfctl -nf /etc/pf.conf.test when I loaded it from the command pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf.test it grumbled: pfctl: DIOCXCOMMIT: Invalid argument Happens usually, if the pf.conf is

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Joel Rees
Dmitrij had some questions about my intent, I'll try to clarify. 2014/12/02 18:57 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com: (apologies for the html.) 2014/12/02 9:52 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com: [ ... and others Snipped context: There was some discussion of what kind of file names should be

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Joel Rees writes: You can even handle broken UTF-8 and unconverted UTF-16/32 of whatever byte order spit into the file name as a sequence of bytes if and only if you escape NUL, slash, and your escape character properly, restoring the escaped characters when putting the file names on the

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-03 Thread mxb
echo max_filedescriptors 4096” /etc/squid/squid.conf On 3 dec 2014, at 04:07, Einfach Jemand rru@gmail.com wrote: Am 03.12.2014 03:55, schrieb Steve Shockley: On 12/2/2014 8:49 PM, Einfach Jemand wrote: Hmm, I checked on one of my boxen and there /etc/passwd has _squid

KDE4 crashes in 5.6

2014-12-03 Thread Federico Giannici
Hi! I'd like to know if I'm the only one that have experiences crashes with KDE4 under 5.6-release amd64. Often, during the startup or shutdown of KDE4, the bug report window appears saying that Plasma Desktop Shell closed unexpectedly (Executable plasma-desktop, Signal Segmentation

Re: KDE4 crashes in 5.6

2014-12-03 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
It looks like a KDE bug. Exactly the same happens on recent Debian sid, odds are it could be something tied to system tray, i.e. when items in system tray get added/changed. If you wipe .kde/ away the desktop restarts, but it is clearly unacceptable. This bug is still under investigation, dunno

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-03 Thread sven falempin
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Einfach Jemand rru@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Am 02.12.2014 22:46, schrieb sven falempin: Hello, I am more or less forced to test Squid. OpenBSD test.my.domain 5.6 GENERIC.MP#333 amd64 I have two problems: WARNING! Your cache is running out of

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-03 Thread sven falempin
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:56 AM, mxb m...@alumni.chalmers.se wrote: echo max_filedescriptors 4096” /etc/squid/squid.conf Thanks mxb, but squid got that by default , squidclient mgr:cache answer 4096 to me On 3 dec 2014, at 04:07, Einfach Jemand rru@gmail.com wrote: Am 03.12.2014 03:55,

Re: KDE4 crashes in 5.6

2014-12-03 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
It looks that the problem lays in systray when items get added to it: http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5203.msg42603#msg42603

USB printer not working with CUPS 2.0.1 (in -current)

2014-12-03 Thread Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
Dear @misc reader, my HP Deskjet F4280 USB printer is (again!) not working after CUPS update to v2.0.1 in current. ulpt* is of course disabled, devices' permissions seem ok and the printer is correctly recognized: Console log for poseidon.atlantide.net ugen1 at uhub8 port 4 HP Deskjet F4200

Re: KDE4 crashes in 5.6

2014-12-03 Thread Vadim Zhukov
Also, make sure that you have your openfiles (for user) and kern.maxfiles (sysctl) limits bumped. -- Vadim Zhukov 03 дек. 2014 г. 13:14 пользователь Federico Giannici giann...@neomedia.it написал: Hi! I'd like to know if I'm the only one that have experiences crashes

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-03 Thread sven falempin
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Steve Shockley steve.shock...@shockley.net wrote: On 12/2/2014 8:49 PM, Einfach Jemand wrote: Hmm, I checked on one of my boxen and there /etc/passwd has _squid ^! Note the underline. as account for this package, so you probably want According

Re: KDE4 crashes in 5.6

2014-12-03 Thread Federico Giannici
Of course, I had already done that. Thanks. On 12/03/14 12:58, Vadim Zhukov wrote: Also, make sure that you have your openfiles (for user) and kern.maxfiles (sysctl) limits bumped. -- Vadim Zhukov 03 дек. 2014 г. 13:14 пользователь Federico Giannici giann...@neomedia.it

Re: USB printer not working with CUPS 2.0.1 (in -current)

2014-12-03 Thread Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
Alessandro DE LAURENZIS just22@gmail.com writes: Dear @misc reader, my HP Deskjet F4280 USB printer is (again!) not working after CUPS update to v2.0.1 in current. ulpt* is of course disabled, devices' permissions seem ok and the printer is correctly recognized: Console log for

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Anthony J. Bentley said: I haven't used Apple OSses since around 10.4, but Mac OS X was doing a thing where certain well-known directory names were aliased according to the current locale. For instance, the user's music directory was shown as 「音楽」 when the locale was set to ja_JP.UTF-8.

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony J. Bentley said: I haven't used Apple OSses since around 10.4, but Mac OS X was doing a thing where certain well-known directory names were aliased according to the current locale. For instance, the user's

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Tor Houghton
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 04:21:50PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 15:37, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you store these passwords? On a napkin? Wherever you like. A shorter password with all the o's turned into 0's is hardly more secure. I'd say on a napkin

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
First of all, I really don't believe that preservation of non-canonical form should be a consideration for any software. There is no single reason to allow non-canonical forms to exist at all, while there are several reasons to avoid them. More so for foreign encodings in filenames - if you are

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Brad Smith
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote: Examples: treetykaveprethicooputhedu soonataviceenoopatecoge gootrozapiceelytrithunula preezypeendothanundipeesooka That defeats the purpose of the second example in the OPs question. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by

isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Kaya Saman
Hi, for some reason, this seems to have been for a while now; isakmpd will simply quit running after initiating: ipsecctl -f /etc/ipsec.conf Starting isakmpd manually with flags -Kdv doesn't give any indication as to what might be causing the service to crash or segfault and nothing is

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Zé Loff
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 02:00:59PM +, Kaya Saman wrote: Hi, for some reason, this seems to have been for a while now; isakmpd will simply quit running after initiating: ipsecctl -f /etc/ipsec.conf Starting isakmpd manually with flags -Kdv doesn't give any indication as to what might

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
I run this kernel from beginning of November: OpenBSD 5.6-current (GENERIC) #492: Fri Nov 7 10:21:36 MST 2014 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by National Semi (Geode by NSC 586-class) 267 MHz cpu0: FPU,TSC,MSR,CX8,CMOV,MMX

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Zé Loff
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 04:09:02PM +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: I run this kernel from beginning of November: OpenBSD 5.6-current (GENERIC) #492: Fri Nov 7 10:21:36 MST 2014 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/03 22:23 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com: First of all, I really don't believe that preservation of non-canonical form should be a consideration for any software. There is no particular canonical form for some kinds of software. Unix, in particular, happens to have file name

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Zé Loff
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 03:24:06PM +, Zé Loff wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 04:09:02PM +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: I run this kernel from beginning of November: OpenBSD 5.6-current (GENERIC) #492: Fri Nov 7 10:21:36 MST 2014

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the mirror, but they are missing on the master ftp too. I know that some

Re: segmentation fault during package build

2014-12-03 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 09:38:17AM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, I am running OpenBSD 5.6 on Sparc [1] Since I did not find several packages available, I got ports (5.6 tar.gz version), unpacked it and started building. While I attempt to install libxml I get, while installing

dialog (probably OT)

2014-12-03 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Hello, I need a little bit of help with 'dialog'. I am working on the script to add a developer to our system: shell= groups= user= home= exec 31 # Store data to $VALUES variable VALUES=$(dialog --ok-label Add \ --backtitle Add a developer \ --title Useradd \ --form Create a

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-12-02, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote: I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the mirror, but they are missing on the master ftp too. I know that some packages

Re: segmentation fault during package build

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-12-03, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote: install -c -o root -g bin -m 555 bzgrep bzmore bzdiff /usr/ports/pobj/bzip2-1.0.6/fake-sparc/usr/local/bin install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 bzip2.1 bzgrep.1 bzmore.1 bzdiff.1

Re: -current hangs during boot from xhci controller on MacbookAir6,1

2014-12-03 Thread Scott Bonds
Sorry, I compiled that custom kernel based on stable instead of current. I have now compiled a version based on current @ 2014-12-03. I get the same panic when booting in xhci mode using the kernel based on current as I did with the kernel based on stable. Same behavior with ehci mode as well--it

OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox

2014-12-03 Thread Gene
I'm a fan of the ASUS Chromebox hardware, specifically the M004U with the Celeron 2955U processor. Comes with 2 GB of RAM, and 16GB SSD. It typically retails for $160 USD. I have a couple running Linux (HTPC and a desktop for my kids). I picked up a third one on black friday for $110 just to

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-12-03, Zé Loff zel...@zeloff.org wrote: for some reason, this seems to have been for a while now; isakmpd will simply quit running after initiating: ipsecctl -f /etc/ipsec.conf I am seeing the same behaviour (apparently a clean exit, no message whatsoever nor core file) on -current,

OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Alan McKay
This is very interesting - I've been looking at various small boxes like this to use as a home firewall. The only problem is that not many of them have 2 NICs, and the ones that do are very expensive (higher end Zotac) Does anyone know of a similar device with 2 NICs that might be suitable as a

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Gene
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: This is very interesting - I've been looking at various small boxes like this to use as a home firewall. The only problem is that not many of them have 2 NICs, and the ones that do are very expensive (higher end Zotac)

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Chester T. Field
The lovable scamp Ted Unangst posted about a box with dual broadcoms, Atom CPU, DDR3 RAM, etc for $129 on his blog: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/new-home-router -Chester Enjoy those tacos now, for in a thousand years they will be illegal! Ha ha ha ha-I think we all know why. -

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Gene
I have one of those. Ran pfSense on it for 9 months and worked great, until one of the built-in NICs died. I've since repurposed the system as a Xen host, the last NIC hasn't died yet, but I can't really recommend it. -Gene On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Chester T. Field

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Alan McKay [alan.mc...@gmail.com] wrote: This is very interesting - I've been looking at various small boxes like this to use as a home firewall. The only problem is that not many of them have 2 NICs, and the ones that do are very expensive (higher end Zotac) Does anyone know of a similar

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Jason Adams
On 12/03/2014 09:49 AM, Alan McKay wrote: This is very interesting - I've been looking at various small boxes like this to use as a home firewall. The only problem is that not many of them have 2 NICs, and the ones that do are very expensive (higher end Zotac) Does anyone know of a similar

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Josh Grosse
On 2014-12-03 12:47, Christian Weisgerber wrote: On 2014-12-03, Zé Loff zel...@zeloff.org wrote: for some reason, this seems to have been for a while now; isakmpd will simply quit running after initiating: ipsecctl -f /etc/ipsec.conf I am seeing the same behaviour (apparently a clean exit,

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Josh Grosse
On 2014-12-03 13:59, Josh Grosse wrote: On 2014-12-03 12:47, Christian Weisgerber wrote: ... This could be the bug fixed in src/sbin/isakmpd/ui.c rev 1.56. Check your system logs for isakmpd: backwards memcpy. It may not be that change, since it was only committed two days ago. I've seen

Generic Question: Floating point, MMU

2014-12-03 Thread worik
On the thread: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox) ch...@nmedia.net commented: For ones that lack MMU or floating-point, Linux is it. Other ones that have MMU and FP can run OpenBSD, although significant porting effort is required. And they have 8MB to 16MB flash,

Re: isakmpd quits out after running ipsec on CURRENT

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-12-03, Josh Grosse j...@jggimi.homeip.net wrote: This could be the bug fixed in src/sbin/isakmpd/ui.c rev 1.56. Check your system logs for isakmpd: backwards memcpy. It may not be that change, since it was only committed two days ago. I've seen the same symptoms in i386 snapshots

Re: Generic Question: Floating point, MMU

2014-12-03 Thread Simon Mages
Maybe this helps, http://www.uclinux.org Am 03.12.2014 20:36 schrieb worik worik.stan...@gmail.com: On the thread: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox) ch...@nmedia.net commented: For ones that lack MMU or floating-point, Linux is it. Other ones that have MMU

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread patrick keshishian
On 12/3/14, Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de wrote: On 2014-12-02, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote: I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the mirror, but they are

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote: On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote: Examples: treetykaveprethicooputhedu soonataviceenoopatecoge gootrozapiceelytrithunula preezypeendothanundipeesooka That defeats the purpose of the second example in the OPs question. If you want

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Jason Adams
On 12/03/2014 12:04 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote: On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote: Examples: treetykaveprethicooputhedu soonataviceenoopatecoge gootrozapiceelytrithunula preezypeendothanundipeesooka That defeats the purpose of the second

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
patrick keshishian: how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? NFS? Distfiles and packages on NFS, obj on local disk. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-03 Thread Einfach Jemand
Am 03.12.2014 12:59, schrieb sven falempin: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Steve Shockley steve.shock...@shockley.net wrote: On 12/2/2014 8:49 PM, Einfach Jemand wrote: Hmm, I checked on one of my boxen and there /etc/passwd has _squid ^! Note the underline. as account for

Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----.

2014-12-03 Thread Ezequiel Garzon
Greetings! I'm trying to take care of the warnings I get in my daily insecurity output, and the one persisting is: Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-. where X is basically all of fd[0-9]*, rd*, sd*, vnd* and wd*. I tried chmod 600, as suggested somewhere on the

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-03 Thread sven falempin
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Einfach Jemand rru@gmail.com wrote: Am 03.12.2014 12:59, schrieb sven falempin: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Steve Shockley steve.shock...@shockley.net wrote: On 12/2/2014 8:49 PM, Einfach Jemand wrote: Hmm, I checked on one of my boxen and there

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Alexander Hall
On December 3, 2014 9:10:42 PM CET, Jason Adams adams...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/03/2014 12:04 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote: On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote: Examples: treetykaveprethicooputhedu soonataviceenoopatecoge gootrozapiceelytrithunula

Re: Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----.

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Burns
On 2014-12-03 21.23.13 +, Ezequiel Garzon wrote: Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-. It must be root.operator and the mode must NOT include user-readable, user-writable, or group-readable. -Mike

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Alan McKay
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk wrote: As I have written many times - used thin clients are available in huge numbers as scrap. Many of them have a PCI or PCIe slot, so adding a second NIC is easy. I often use thin clients with a Compaq 2- or 4-port NIC.

Re: [Bulk] Generic Question: Floating point, MMU

2014-12-03 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 08:35:11 +1300 worik wrote: For ones that lack MMU or floating-point, Linux is it. Other ones that have MMU and FP can run OpenBSD, although significant porting effort is required. And they have 8MB to 16MB flash, which means you are running a ramdisk kernel and

Re: Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----.

2014-12-03 Thread Ezequiel Garzon
It must be root.operator and the mode must NOT include user-readable, user-writable, or group-readable. Thanks, Mike, but isn't that achieved by chmod 600? And yet I get Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw---. in the next daily insecurity output. Maybe I don't know

Re: Disk /dev/X is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----.

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Burns
On 2014-12-03 22.28.50 +, Ezequiel Garzon wrote: It must be root.operator and the mode must NOT include user-readable, user-writable, or group-readable. Maybe I don't know what operator means in this context. chgrp operator /dev/X -Mike

Re: [Bulk] Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 22:53:22 +0100 Alexander Hall wrote: If you want strong, short passwords that look ridiculous: dd if=/dev/random bs=1 count=9 | b64encode password And then try to remember that mess, or type it, especially into a smartphone. Gaak! 8-O base64 ain't that bad,

ftp-proxy pf operation failed: Device busy

2014-12-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
Solved problem, but I'm mentioning it here for anyone searching the list archives. If you use ftp-proxy and are having a failure to add rules for the data-channel connections, with accompanying verbose mode log entries like pf operation failed: Device busy, check the ftp-proxy command line and

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Schröder
2014-12-03 18:49 GMT+01:00 Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com: Does anyone know of a similar device with 2 NICs that might be suitable as a home firewall? Yes. There are archives of this list.

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread dev
We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete hardware, run by few people, with pitiful best effort package builds happening each release and with luck once between. They slowly sink under the accumulating bitrot that nobody cares to fix, but at the same time people

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete hardware, run by few people, with pitiful best effort package builds happening each release and with luck once between. They slowly sink under the accumulating bitrot that nobody cares to fix, but at the same time

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
I will dust off my ss20 this weekend see if it powers up. A SparcStation 20 is a relic for historical reference only. A cool item and if it powers up I would be surprised. However it won't make any more sense than to have a 1976 Ford truck as a daily driver. It

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Larkin
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:54:14PM -0500, dev wrote: We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete hardware, run by few people, with pitiful best effort package builds happening each release and with luck once between. They slowly sink under the accumulating bitrot

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:54:14PM -0500, dev wrote: We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete hardware, run by few people, with pitiful best effort package builds happening each release and with luck once between. They slowly sink under the accumulating

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen
Alan McKay wrote: This is very interesting - I've been looking at various small boxes like this to use as a home firewall. The only problem is that not many of them have 2 NICs, and the ones that do are very expensive (higher end Zotac) Does anyone know of a similar device with 2 NICs that

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Alan McKay
I see one of these on my local kijiji but can't tell whether or not it has a PCI slot. It is not on the hardware list of that parkytowers site http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-12454-321959-338927-5112717-5295294.html?dnr=2

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread dev
You are speaking out of turn, basically insulting people who want to make sure that older architectures do work. The Sun Fire V890 and Niagara machines are not sparc architecture. They are sparc64. Not sure where the anger is coming from. Regardless, there may be people

OT but reasonable

2014-12-03 Thread dev
I noticed this never was delivered to the list. For whats its worth .. this was really what I was thinking. Dennis -- Original Message -- From: dev d...@cor0.com To: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Cc: patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com, Christian Weisgerber

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread dev
snip I will dust off my ss20 this weekend see if it powers up. A SparcStation 20 is a relic for historical reference only. A cool item and if it powers up I would be surprised. However it won't make any more sense than to have a 1976 Ford truck as a daily driver. It would

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread System Administrator
On 3 Dec 2014 at 18:36, dev wrote: You are speaking out of turn, basically insulting people who want to make sure that older architectures do work. The Sun Fire V890 and Niagara machines are not sparc architecture. They are sparc64. Not sure where the anger is

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, dev wrote: It would be a waste of effort to look at anything previous to a Sun Fire V890 or any UltraSPARC IV based server. There are very few out there running Solaris any more and only hobby types have SPARC anywhere else. The first thing you forget is the fun factor. People devote time

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 04:42:52PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the mirror,

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 09:46:04PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: patrick keshishian: how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? NFS? Distfiles and packages on NFS, obj on local disk. That works well. But I got tired of that especialy since I was down to a 1G drive

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Brad Smith
On 12/03/14 15:04, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote: On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote: Examples: treetykaveprethicooputhedu soonataviceenoopatecoge gootrozapiceelytrithunula preezypeendothanundipeesooka That defeats the purpose of the second example in

Re: Staying -current with cvsup or cvsync

2014-12-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-12-02, Jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Stuart, From: Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org Sent: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:40:22 + (UTC) To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Staying -current with cvsup or cvsync On

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014, at 08:27 AM, Brad Smith wrote: On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote: Examples: treetykaveprethicooputhedu soonataviceenoopatecoge gootrozapiceelytrithunula preezypeendothanundipeesooka That defeats the purpose of the second example in the OPs question. I think

intermittent problems compiling kdrive in xenocara

2014-12-03 Thread STeve Andre'
So, I am dumb. Problem is, I don't know what it is that I don't know. Every once in a while compiling xenocara, I get a fatal error when dealing with kdrive. I've looked for emails talking about this and haven't found anything. I've gone over release(8) and think I'm OK. What's frustrating

Re: Is there something seriously wrong ?

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
Bye Dennis. Not going to be influenced by you. This is one of those rare situations when I post a rebuke towards me from the public. This group does what it does. We provide benefit to you. You have no right to try to turn it around on us, on me. The money and business you talk to is a

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
You are speaking out of turn, basically insulting people who want to make sure that older architectures do work. The Sun Fire V890 and Niagara machines are not sparc architecture. They are sparc64. Not sure where the anger is coming from. Regardless, there may be people

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
dev wrote: It would be a waste of effort to look at anything previous to a Sun Fire V890 or any UltraSPARC IV based server. There are very few out there running Solaris any more and only hobby types have SPARC anywhere else. The first thing you forget is the fun factor. People devote time in

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Joel Rees writes: 2014/12/03 22:23 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com: First of all, I really don't believe that preservation of non-canonical form should be a consideration for any software. There is no particular canonical form for some kinds of software. Unix, in particular,

Re: OpenBSD embedded? (was: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox)

2014-12-03 Thread Vivek Vinod
Sorry for speaking out of turn and adding a bit of noise. A non-techie mind like mine would like to think, why not have a router which can work both as a home router and work router? We have been using Mikrotik routerboards‎ since 7 years and have been very happy with those. Wouldn't it be

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
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Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
Joel Rees writes: 2014/12/03 22:23 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com: First of all, I really don't believe that preservation of non-canonical form should be a consideration for any software. There is no particular canonical form for some kinds of software. Unix, in particular,

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-12-03 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Joel Rees said: Maybe it would be better just to not make those directories until they are needed by an application, and then ask the user to name them instead of providing standard names. Actually, it is still workable if you carry your ~/.config/user-dirs.dir around, so that you could