Linking the amd64 Kernel with ld.lld (further more have the default system linker as ld.lld)

2017-12-14 Thread Adam Steen
Hi All Do you know if its possible to link the amd64 kernel with ld.lld? and if so would you change LD?= in sys.mk? I haven't been able to find anything about this besides "Bug 30815 - linking OpenBSD/amd64 kernel" [1]. Which says the linked kernel doesn't boot, thus if we can't link the kernel

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Benno, the manual page should describe in more detail how exactly PWD and OLDPWD get changed, it is of crucial importance here. Sebastian Benoit wrote on Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:14:40PM +0100: > Xcd $@ No doubt you removed the quoting from the Solaris 9 version to evade Copyright issues,

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Sebastian Benoit
Ingo Schwarze(schwa...@usta.de) on 2017.12.14 17:49:35 +0100: > We are actually violating POSIX here: ok to put this in? we can continue working on it in tree # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it

Re: Any typical pf.conf or sysctl settings to tweak/speedup NAT/networking stack throughput? (+ don't use USB dongles?)

2017-12-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017/12/14 17:52, ti...@openmailbox.org wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks a lot for your response. I guess you made a point that for any > few-users usecase the default configuration is fine alrady really. If > relevant some followup question at bottom. > > > On 2017-12-14,

Re: Library versions mismatch in the 14-Dec-2017 14:45 amd64 snapshot?

2017-12-14 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 12/14/17 21:04, Stefan Sperling wrote: > It's already been fixed. New libutil wasn't packaged until this commit: > http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/sets/lists/base/mi.diff?r1=1.871=1.872 > > You could try to build + install just libutil from source, > or wait for the next

What would you like to see in upcoming PF tutorials?

2017-12-14 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
We're in the process of preparing for upcoming conferences with updates to the ever-in-progress PF tutorial. If you have thoughts on what you would like to see in a tutorial session and would like to share them either with me or the list, we would love to hear from you. The slides from last

Re: Library versions mismatch in the 14-Dec-2017 14:45 amd64 snapshot?

2017-12-14 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 09:04:47PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > It's already been fixed. New libutil wasn't packaged until this commit: > http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/sets/lists/base/mi.diff?r1=1.871=1.872 excellent, I sort of expected to hear this was already fixed

Re: Library versions mismatch in the 14-Dec-2017 14:45 amd64 snapshot?

2017-12-14 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 08:52:28PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > First trouble I've had with jumping snapshot to snapshot in years, this: > > upgrading from the previous amd64 snapshot (yesterday or possibly the day > before, > not easy to tell at the moment), on reboot I get (transcribed

Library versions mismatch in the 14-Dec-2017 14:45 amd64 snapshot?

2017-12-14 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
First trouble I've had with jumping snapshot to snapshot in years, this: upgrading from the previous amd64 snapshot (yesterday or possibly the day before, not easy to tell at the moment), on reboot I get (transcribed from my laptop's console): reordering libraries: done. ld.so: ssh-keygen:

Re: Suggestions home server

2017-12-14 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 07:23:51PM +0100, Oliver Marugg wrote: > The HPE Gen10 MicroServer (but BIOS only with contract or under warranty) > could be as a possible solution (does anyone using it with OpenBSD?). The Gen8 works fine once you set the disk controller to plain SATA mode instead of the

Re : Suggestions home server

2017-12-14 Thread gro...@grompf.net
Bonjour, For my own personal purpose, i'm using coolermaster 110, 120, 130 cases with some asrock low cost and low power mini-itx boards.All other parts are common ones. It's not the «best & most power full setup» but it's silent and my small ups announces 5 days of autonomy with openbsd on this.

Suggestions home server

2017-12-14 Thread Oliver Marugg
Hi I am considering buying a not so expensive home server. Intended not for big storage, for some private webpresences, mail, spamd, and own/-nextcloud, a bit of DB, some 16+ RAM and space for 2-3 disks (softraid) would be enough, no number cruncher. And it should be a quiet and energy

Re: Any typical pf.conf or sysctl settings to tweak/speedup NAT/networking stack throughput? (+ don't use USB dongles?)

2017-12-14 Thread tinkr
Hi Stuart, Thanks a lot for your response. I guess you made a point that for any few-users usecase the default configuration is fine alrady really. If relevant some followup question at bottom. > On 2017-12-14, ti...@openmailbox.org wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Do you see any

Re: Any typical pf.conf or sysctl settings to tweak/speedup NAT/networking stack throughput? (+ don't use USB dongles?)

2017-12-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-12-14, ti...@openmailbox.org wrote: > Hi! > > Do you see any typical pf.conf or sysctl settings to tweak/speedup > NAT/networking stack throughput? > > (On USB2 dongles, sigh. > > Current speed is quite OK actually, a client with good hardware would get up > to

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Christian, Christian Weisgerber wrote on Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 03:20:22PM -: > On 2017-12-13, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> That is not a stand-alone command, but a shell built-in. >> Actually, it is not even possible to implement it as a stand-alone >> command because the

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Erling Westenvik
"This page intentionally left non-blank"? 14. des. 2017 10:26 p.m. skrev "Christian Weisgerber" : On 2017-12-13, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > That is not a stand-alone command, but a shell built-in. > Actually, it is not even possible to implement it as a

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2017-12-13, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > That is not a stand-alone command, but a shell built-in. > Actually, it is not even possible to implement it as a stand-alone > command because the effect of the intended change would end when > the command exits. I think there is/was a

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Dumitru Mișu Moldovan wrote on Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 09:42:57AM +0200: > La 13.12.2017 23:36, Niels Kobschaetzki a scris: >> On Linux the man page for bash opens, > Not necessarily true, on my Hardened Gentoo this is the first page of > what I get for "man cd" (sorry for the wrapping): > >

Re: Manual to cd (change working directory)

2017-12-14 Thread Freddy Fisker
Thank you for the advice. I understand to use the ksh manual instead. Best regards Freddy

Re: [OT] how secure is 2 factor auth with a smartphone?

2017-12-14 Thread Martin Schröder
2017-12-14 3:16 GMT+01:00 Alceu Rodrigues de Freitas Junior : > What do you guys think about? Do you agree with the article author opinion? It's probably more secure than your typical RSA token, which had numerous security issues (including opening up the seeds!) in the

Re: [OT] how secure is 2 factor auth with a smartphone?

2017-12-14 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
> Re: [OT] how secure is 2 factor auth with a smartphone? Not very much. Phones are easy to lose, break (which means 2nd factor recovery must be relatively painless == lowest common denominator), etc. For services that insist on 2FA, I have a script that calls oathtool and copies the code to

Re: syspatch not updating kernel

2017-12-14 Thread Zbyszek Żółkiewski
I am not sure there was any debate on that, whether syspatch check of number of CPU OR what current kernel is running (MP or SP) I made a quick check and at last one cloud service that have OpenBSD uses MP by default - as a result syspatch do not work (on small instances) as it try to patch SP

Re: [OT] how secure is 2 factor auth with a smartphone?

2017-12-14 Thread Lea Chescotta
Hi! I face the same situation at work, what i simply do is to have an android tablet (which i also use to read while traveling to work) just to use the 2 factor authentication at work, and a dumb phone to make and receive phone calls from my wife and family. > Original Message >

Re: syspatch not updating kernel

2017-12-14 Thread Steven Surdock
This was, in fact, the reason. I had an MP kernel running on a VM with a single CPU. I ended up moving to an SP kernel, but I needed to copy /usr/share/compile/GENERIC for a working i386 SP machine. To make sure everything was updated I also reverted syspatches and then re-applied them.

Re: syspatch not updating kernel

2017-12-14 Thread Zbyszek Żółkiewski
Hi, perhaps this might be a reason, syspatch, around line number 274: (($(sysctl -n hw.ncpufound) > 1)) && _BSDMP=true || _BSDMP=false your kernel looks like MP on i386 ? _ Zbyszek Żółkiewski > Wiadomość napisana przez Steven Surdock w dniu > 13.12.2017, o godz.

Re: Any typical pf.conf or sysctl settings to tweak/speedup NAT/networking stack throughput? (+ don't use USB dongles?)

2017-12-14 Thread Solène Rapenne
Le 2017-12-14 05:30, ti...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Hi! Do you see any typical pf.conf or sysctl settings to tweak/speedup NAT/networking stack throughput? (On USB2 dongles, sigh. Current speed is quite OK actually, a client with good hardware would get up to 70mbps through the NAT. I was