Re: Would a consolidated greytrapping list be useful?

2009-10-05 Thread Bob Beck
Exactly what are yo consolidating here peter? If it is blacklists or traplists from various sources, I think this may do people a disservice. The problem if you are aggregating the traplists is that users don't have a clue where stuff is coming from. They know the person is trapped because they

Re: spamd - Nixspam

2009-10-01 Thread Bob Beck
It is being worked on. It will be fixed shortly. 2009/10/1 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Steve fivering...@yahoo.com.au wrote: spamd-setup is generating a 404 not found message while trying to download /spamd/nixspam.gz Is there a process change that I

Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-09-30 Thread Bob Beck
Again? sheesh, it wasn't supposed to, we had talked to them. 2009/9/30 K.R. (Randy) Lewis ra...@rtmx.net: Has anyone else noticed the nixspam list (via link) disappearing from the http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/ page today? Randy -- [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type

Re: procfs in OpenBSD

2009-09-25 Thread Bob Beck
if it's use is far from recommended, indeed rather forbidden, why is it left to rot? It is left there for historical reasons, because some old applications may use it. For new applications we do not use it, but prefer to use a properly designed sysctl or ioctl interface to retrieve information

Re: OT: Old School Unix vs. Modern Day Support Professionals - was (Defending OpenBSD Performance)

2009-09-17 Thread Bob Beck
That is my $1.87 worth - flame me - stone me - whatever if you must - but again it is just one man's opinion. Don't be sorry, that's one of the better and more literate rants I've seen on misc@ in a while.

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-16 Thread Bob Beck
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done. Once you have a built release you can run upgrades everywhere from that release tarball. man release to figure out how to do that. Now you may ask, why don't we do that? We simply do not have the resources and time to devote racks of

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-16 Thread Bob Beck
I think you're missing the point; marco was talking about the dumbing down of what's considered acceptible for being called a professional; in this case, mostly the fact that once you start presenting system administration as a series of buttons to push, you get button-pushing monkeys, not

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-16 Thread Bob Beck
But come on Bret, that's what the industry WANTS.. you can PAY monkeys less! Push Butan ...receive bacon lube Keep it Sizzlin! (you can't hear it but I'm doing the little techno pelvic dance right now..)

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-15 Thread Bob Beck
Practically speaking, the people who need the performance at the edge of what OpenBSD can deliver usually are too busy to argue benchmarks. Precisely.

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-15 Thread Bob Beck
From: OpenBSD general usage list misc@openbsd.org this thread is fucking stupid. I didn't need the second part... How about just saying something when the thread is NOT stupid.

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-15 Thread Bob Beck
Well, I've heard that it needs to be mauve,because that has more RAM, otherwise it's a fabulous OS. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Milan BartoE! merlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still hear people (mostly younger people) complain about OpenBSD performance I still hear people telling that

Re: New spammers' behaviour pattern

2009-09-11 Thread Bob Beck
I get these, but this and other reasons are why you have to do more than *just* greylist. Yes, I greylist of course, but greylisting is one tool. the key thing it gives you is time to look at the sending profile of the bozo sending the stuff. When it's going to wait 30 minutes before it gets in

Re: the openbsd mug

2009-08-09 Thread Bob Beck
You'll never get anywhere. Frankly your ship has got a flat tyre and the lights are on. Yes the lights are ON! It's your fault developers. BrokenBSD. Of course you don't realize, we knew it was you when you ordered so we only put a handle on your mug, just to fuck with your little head

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Bob Beck
I saw your post on that list, and I knew he was coming, so I shipped out a broken snapshot to cause him harm, on purpose. Be sure to let us know if it i being reccommended on freebsd or linux lists in the next week and we filesystem developers will try to make sure the tree is well and truly

Re: spamdb: is it my eyes or do TRAPPED addresses still manage to get through?

2009-07-29 Thread Bob Beck
Traplists do not go into tables. (for this exact reason) only the whitelisted hosts go into tables guys. Bob * Peter N. M. Hansteen pe...@bsdly.net [2009-07-28 15:31]: Renaud Allard ren...@allard.it writes: It happened to me also with servers with huge white/black lists. If

Re: PF and LDAP

2009-07-29 Thread Bob Beck
* Marcello Cruz marcello.c...@globo.com [2009-07-29 10:51]: Dear all, Is there a way to use LDAP in a rule to allow or deny based on the user instead of the IP Address? Define user - in the context of IP. last time I looked no such thing was in there. authpf comes close,

Re: spamdb: is it my eyes or do TRAPPED addresses still manage to get through?

2009-07-27 Thread Bob Beck
Trapping an address only affects new connections that are looked up in the database. it does not affect existing passed connections. spamd only updates the tables on it's scan of the database so these will not take effect immediately. -Bob * Peter N. M. Hansteen

Re: Porting HammerFS

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Beck
I have looked at it because it is of potential interest to me, however it is not simply porting a filesystem, there are hacks in a number of places in their buffer cache layer to treat things special for HammerFS, so more work needs to be done in that area before this could be considered.

Re: systrace

2009-07-15 Thread Bob Beck
* Ross Cameron ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za [2009-07-15 03:19]: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Anton Karpovtoxah...@gmail.com wrote: According to Provos's blog, http://www.provos.org/index.php?/archives/34-Evading-System-Sandbox-Containme nt.html The initial prototype of Systrace as

Re: reason for libexec?

2009-07-15 Thread Bob Beck
* Daniel Barowy m...@barowy.net [2009-07-15 09:58]: Hello everyone, This is, I'm sure, a naive question, so bear with me. What is the purpose of /usr/libexec? I see from hier(7) that it has something to do with System daemons and utilities (executed by other programs) which probably

Re: reason for libexec?

2009-07-15 Thread Bob Beck
* Thomas Pfaff tpf...@tp76.info [2009-07-15 11:22]: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:31:11 -0600 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: Does everyone on this list have ADD? Commit to usr.bin/mg/theo.c please ;-) No, because all of us that read misc@ say this every single day :) theo.c

Re: Problems with 4.5 as a KVM guest

2009-07-14 Thread Bob Beck
* Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.info [2009-07-05 11:05]: On 10:36, Sun 05 Jul 09, stan wrote: I am trying to get OpenBSD 4.5 working as a guest OS using KVM on Linux. I have been able to get 4.4 to install and run fine, but 4.5 never gives me a login prompt. The last message I see is

Re: spamd greylisting not only wrong user, but also non-existent domain

2009-07-14 Thread Bob Beck
* Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz [2009-07-14 10:40]: I have seen many emails for non-existent users greylisted. Never thought twice about it. What I just saw is new (to me at least) are wrong domains:

Re: misc@ list spam

2009-06-06 Thread Bob Beck
* x x tonino-pa...@lycos.com [2009-06-06 18:04]: The spam we seem to be getting as being part of this mailing list, is it just an unfortunate thing have to live with? Is there someway to make sure only get legit discussions/questions? Yes, kick all the idiots off and only allow members

Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK

2009-05-27 Thread Bob Beck
joke accessory=can-opener Original thread: http://marc.info/?t=12428629293r=1w=2 Message that Bob replied to, starting a new thread (at least as far as Gmail is concerned): The in-reply-to header was correct, just because the subject line changes doesn't make it a new

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2009-05-27 Thread Bob Beck Via Secure Email
Hi this is bob. really. I can haz Ur Passwordz plz? ohai, and Ur bank accountz and sinz too?

Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK

2009-05-27 Thread Bob Beck
, end with . on a line by itself From: Bob Beck Via Secure Email b...@openbsd.org To: misc@openbsd.org X-Security-Verified: Trusted Email. Always Watch for this Hi this is bob. really. I can haz Ur Passwordz plz? ohai, and Ur bank accountz and sinz too? . 250 2.0.0 n4RFs9K8004500 Message accepted

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Beck
* Michal mic...@sharescope.co.uk [2009-05-21 11:01]: Oh I didnt realise it was that under-poweredoh now I just feel stupid :( Well, we are all laughing at you. but only because too many of us get hit with this bullshit at work. http://a2.vox.com/6a00d09e512cfdbe2b00f30f5b193a0001-pi I

IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Beck
* Chris Harries ch...@sharescope.co.uk [2009-05-26 10:48]: it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their email doesn't work IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK We are refreshing our

Re: uatraps just growing

2009-05-21 Thread Bob Beck
Nothing that out of the ordinary. just your run of the mill massive joe job attack against @ualberta.ca - someone whanging out a metric bungwad of spam with bogus @ualberta.ca from addresses. the attempted bounces get trapped. It appears to be subsiding so that will probably

Re: sendmail vs. other MTAs

2009-05-12 Thread Bob Beck
an MTA that has a horrible security track record. Yes, Unix has a horrible security record. you shouldn't use it. My god, remember all those horrible SunOS 4 exploits and the morris worm? surely it must suck since software never changes. -Bob

Re: No OS safe??

2009-05-08 Thread Bob Beck
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/04/15/ibotnet-trojan.html It's a *botnet* guys, installed by *trojan* i.e. by tricking the stupid idiot at the keyboard into doing something retarded. The OS can be the most secure thing on the planet and if the person at the keyboard is stupid you'll

Re: [ot] debian switching to eglibc

2009-05-07 Thread Bob Beck
http://www.osnews.com/story/21441/Debian_Switching_to_EGLIBC http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4980 Shut up! You should be punished anyway! http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2000-08/msg00053.html Silence... I kill You!

Re: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: Re: I would like to send this to misc@ and security-announce@, from me.]

2009-05-06 Thread Bob Beck
e.g. ftp://mirrors.nic.funet.fi/ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/ I'll make a bulk check of the mirrors that haven't got 4.5 yet sometime soon and remind them to update their rsync inclusion lists. I'll give it a bit longer because some are probably still trying to fetch the release. And

Re: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: Re: I would like to send this to misc@ and security-announce@, from me.]

2009-05-04 Thread Bob Beck
was delisted from the ftp.html page on Mon Apr 6. Can you just stop bashing Wim? It doesn't make anyone happier (except Theo probably). Or maybe we should rush searching the whole fscking internet for the incorrect OpenBSD mirrors? Chill out, dudes. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:21 -0600, Bob Beck wrote

Re: RIT's mirror

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Beck
* Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org [2009-04-26 05:05]: On 2009-04-25, eagir...@cox.net eagir...@cox.net wrote: The RIT mirror is providing 4.2 sets from it's snapshots directory. Should they still be listed? snapshots aren't compulsory for a mirror, and they are providing the

Re: Recipient Validation Design Opinions

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Beck
If you are able to weed out illegitimate recipients, this may go a long way to reduce spam, or at least it did for us. Looking the email address up in LDAP is *much* cheaper than doing a call-out to the backend server(s). Greylisting helps us, too, but seems to cost mail from broken servers

Re: autowhitelister for spamd needs testing

2009-04-24 Thread Bob Beck
i think part of the success i experience using SPF as a means to create whitelists is in the fact that i maintain the list of domains i fancy whitelisting. unfortunately, it would be trivial for someone to take advantage of an spf-based automatic whitelist to slip right on thru

Re: autowhitelister for spamd needs testing

2009-04-23 Thread Bob Beck
Auto-whitelisting based on input from the spammer is bad. You may as well save yourself the trouble and not use spamd. Indeed. it is utterly mentally retarded. most spam is bogusly sent from real envelope senders. Smart spammers just randomize their recipient lists and use them as the

Re: Slow SATA write speeds with SMB

2009-04-20 Thread Bob Beck
some of the devs really need to give up their thinkpads and start buying cheap msi or other stuff with amd and nvidia monstrosities :] Yeah... you're like... the guy who is sits outside the estwing factory hitting his balls with an estwing hammer - telling everyone who comes in and out that

Re: Low power OpenBSD machine

2009-04-16 Thread Bob Beck
I have a t5xxx also and want to do the same, but if I use usb flash (tried and worked fine), how to limit at max disk writes ? so the flash can live longer ... Please let me know if you find an answer to this question. I have all these openbsd machines booking off hard drives, and I'm trying

Re: I can't download OpenBSD 4.5, 550 /pub/OpenBSD/4.5: Permission denied.

2009-04-16 Thread Bob Beck
* Juan Jimenez Galdos juangmgald...@gmail.com [2009-04-16 14:37]: Hi. I want download OPenBSD 4.5 but i can't. I try to enter in the directory but it says 550 /pub/OpenBSD/4.5: Permission denied. The others directories work well. That's funny. it works for me.. I wonder what your issue is?

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

2009-04-09 Thread Bob Beck
* Cezary Morga c...@therek.net [2009-04-09 15:14]: Nick Guenther wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail. -Bryan Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF?

Why is Itojun's Funeral listed as someplace OpenBSD Donation money went to..

2009-04-07 Thread Bob Beck
:10:37 -0700 From: Bob Beck beck To: Marco Peereboom ma...@peereboom.us, hack...@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards. Message-ID: 20071105231037.gk...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca Mail-Followup-To: Marco Peereboom ma...@peereboom.us, hack...@openbsd.org References: 20071104174010.gd26

Why is Itojun's Funeral listed as someplace OpenBSD Donation money to..

2009-04-07 Thread Bob Beck
:10:37 -0700 From: Bob Beck beck To: Marco Peereboom ma...@peereboom.us, hack...@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards. Message-ID: 20071105231037.gk...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca Mail-Followup-To: Marco Peereboom ma...@peereboom.us, hack...@openbsd.org References: 20071104174010.gd26

Re: Why is Itojun's Funeral listed as someplace OpenBSD Donation money to..

2009-04-07 Thread Bob Beck
to fund OpenBSD events in europe? -Bob yes, it was just a pass through transaction, just as the sponsor money that was destined for Opencon On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Bob Beck b...@obtuse.com wrote: * Wim Vandeputte wim.vandepu...@gmail.com [2009-04-07 12:26]: Two

Re: Why is Itojun's Funeral listed as someplace OpenBSD Donation money to..

2009-04-07 Thread Bob Beck
* Wim Vandeputte wim.vandepu...@gmail.com [2009-04-07 12:26]: Two developers who wanted to contribute to the funeral did not have a credit card and asked me if they could wire the money to the IBAN account I then forwarded the money with my credit card towards the paypal account Which

Re: Donations (was, sadly, European orders)

2009-04-02 Thread Bob Beck
Others are trying to do it too, but they are just more quiet about it. And then there's the other catagory... the breeders... No, you're forgetting the third category - the titanium clipped, whose ungrateful spawn are now 18 and will soon be old enough to be capable of leaving the

Re: spamd uatraps blacklist size

2009-02-10 Thread Bob Beck
* Peter N. M. Hansteen pe...@bsdly.net [2009-02-02 10:22]: Jose Fragoso inet_use...@samerica.com writes: This list has gone quite small in size recently. The size changed from above 10 IP addresses to only 1 now. Could it be because University of Alberta is not being targeted so

Re: spamd uatraps blacklist size

2009-02-10 Thread Bob Beck
it because they have become more selective in trapping addresses? Oh and it's not because of this. We just managed to expire 66,000 accounts here which will only make the trapping get better ;)

Re: OT: elliptic curve crypto

2008-09-26 Thread Bob Beck
On 26-Sep-08, at 14:43, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:02 PM, John Nietzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am searching for a tutorial on this regards that explain howto implement it using ANSI C (I don't really care about the math background abot this subject).

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Bob Beck
On 16-Jul-08, at 12:14 PM, Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a monkey. Hey but I am! Pass the banana flavoured lube! Oook oook oook! Now could we return to useful conversation instead of feeding the trolls? -Bob

U of A (and associated OpenBSD machines) going offline for up to 4 hours or so.

2008-05-25 Thread Bob Beck
We're having some major electrical work done in our data centre. While I have UPS, the nature of the work means I don't have air conditioning ;) The result is some of the OpenBSD sites (ftp, www, anoncvs, etc.) may be unavailable for much of this morning - potentially into the

Re: Getting envolved

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Beck
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 21:46]: On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:22:07PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: When I read that, it sounded a lot to me like saying if you're not a skilled medical practitioner, you don't deserve decent health care. Seems to me one of the

Re: Developers: First Reply Gets My Copy Of /On Bullshit/

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Beck
Me! Me! Ship it to my address: 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA -Bob * Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 13:02]: OpenBSD developers, In recognition of all the bullshit flying around recently on misc@, I would like to offer to mail my

Re: Developers: First Reply Gets My Copy Of /On Bullshit/

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Beck
] [2007-12-14 13:41]: It's yours Bob. Given the address you've posted, I imagine that you might want me to send it in care of someone with the initials RMS? Breeno Bob Beck wrote: Me! Me! Ship it to my address: 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA -Bob

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Beck
Having recipes for non-free programs in the ports system is more like including present-day neofascist web sites in the list of interesting links in your web site. I am against censorship, so I do not believe in closing down those neofascist web sites. But I won't refer people to them.

Re: Getting envolved

2007-12-13 Thread Bob Beck
If you like the current way it works, you should be able to continue with this system. But what if my mum, who has low computer skill, would like to install a free, functional and secure system? I think the software should help her to make the most accurate choices. Because I think my

Re: Getting envolved

2007-12-13 Thread Bob Beck
Users who can no invest the effort learn enough to use a simple interface do not deserve a reliable operating system. They deserve windows, and they deserve pop up buttong in their browsers that they click ok blindly for everything. -Bob Do you apply this reasoning to

Re: Getting envolved

2007-12-12 Thread Bob Beck
* Mathieu Stumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-12 11:23]: Hello, First I apologize if this is not the good address to post this kind of message. I didn't find a 'getting involved' link on the 0penBSD website. Well, OpenBSD seems to care about quality, so as a developper I thought this would

Re: Hardware recommendations for OpenBSD carp router/firewall machines

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Beck
* Matthew Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-06 15:54]: Does anyone have recommendations on server hardware for setting up a redundant OpenBSD firewall? Right now our network handles several million HTTP requests per day, and we expect that to continue growing. I expect a simple pair of Dell

Re: Could Hiawatha replace Apache as in base HTTP server if it's license changed?

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Beck
The latter is far more accurate than the former. Greg Good god folks, just stop it. It's GPL, so it isn't going to happen. -Bob

Re: Code signing in OpenBSD

2007-12-06 Thread Bob Beck
do you have any idea how hard it really is to mount such an attack? without being detected? and what's the trojan going to do? copy all your secrets to their national citizen oppression center? how do they get their nefarious packets through your firewall without notice? Of course

Re: Code signing in OpenBSD

2007-12-05 Thread Bob Beck
Can you dismiss PKI and the benefits that OpenPGP signatures provide to your user community? Knowing that xyz binary is signed by OpenBSD for distribution or abc email came from an official OpenBSD source is a good thing. Trojaned binaries and forged emails happen. PKI can help mitigate this.

Re: Two carp firewalls keep swapping from master/backup

2007-12-05 Thread Bob Beck
Are you allowing the carp traffic in and out? This is the more common fuckup I make when configuring them that has this result. make sure the carp and pfsync traffic makes it in and out.

Re: pfctl - show port numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Bob Beck
while that is entirely true, I really don't see much of a point here. actually, if I were to implement these parts now I'd make it print port numbers only and not names - we don't print hostnames either. but - it has been that way for more than 6 years. I don't see a good reason to change

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-03 Thread Bob Beck
* Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-03 06:19]: No harm done just stupidity perpetuated. Kind of like fox news. Dunno about no harm done there marco - Saying fox news doesn't do any harm is like saying Joesph Goebels didn't to any harm - only perpetuated stupidity..

Re: spamd DB_SCAN_INTERVAL

2007-12-03 Thread Bob Beck
* Tom Bombadil [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-31 12:21]: Probably Bad things. Oh-oh... I increased it to 2 minutes. Thing are a bit better now. Shouldn't be. What rev of openbsd are you running this spamd box on? I run it on a single ide drive, I'm probably bigger than your site.

Re: spamdb output

2007-11-19 Thread Bob Beck
* RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-11 22:39]: It seems that the migrated database works but new entries go on the end - no SORT of order, and SPAMTRAP entries (that I entered using a script) ended up showing in two bunches in the midst of other unordered entries. My question is: Is this

Re: Remembering Jun-ichiro Hagino

2007-11-02 Thread Bob Beck
* Adrian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-01 11:22]: This thread is the first I have heard of him. Who is (or was) he? A. How unbelievably [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't even have the decency to google his name before you spout your ignorance here, in an incredibly insensitive manner.

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Beck
* Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-31 08:40]: On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't need a list. They could already have started coding. Yet we see how few people actually do start coding. Instead, they choose to write in english... How can we get

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Beck
and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most significant barrier to encouraging new/young developers. No, the severe and prevelent attitude toward the possiblilty of poor patches or

Re: spamdb expire value gets default value instead of spamd_flag value (-G)

2007-10-30 Thread Bob Beck
Who put the 36 hour date in there? spamd or spamlogd? spamlogd may have done that for you. look at your syslogs -Bob * Claes Str?m [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-24 10:13]: Hi, When testing greylisting with synchronizing we noticed the following strange behavior:

Re: max number of groups

2007-10-29 Thread Bob Beck
* Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-26 16:53]: On 10/26/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, then, is the correct way to separate the project files of more than 16 projects, where some users will need access to all of the groups? There has to be _some_ solution

Re: late install of patch 011_openssl.patch

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Beck
I just noticed 011_openssl.patch and installed it on my 4.1 i386 system. Does anyone have any idea to what extent I risked being hacked? If the risk was significant, what is the best way to check if someone's been naughty? If anyone competent is being naughty, you probably wouldn't

Re: cvs disk space error

2007-10-12 Thread Bob Beck
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Aaron wrote: ? share/man/mantest unable to write, file adduser.8 No space left on device and returns me to the #. There is plenty of disk space. Try a different cvs server: http://openbsd.org/anoncvs.html#CVSROOT Or, if you want an

Re: Thank you developers... 4.2 arrived in the mail today

2007-10-05 Thread Bob Beck
Okay, well fresh from an install on my Sun X2100M2 my daughter wanted to check it out http://balius.com/openbsd.4.2.jpg Ok, that's a cool picture. Thanks daniel :) -Bob

Re: To whom can I direct email for artwork use permission pls?

2007-10-02 Thread Bob Beck
(though i have to confess, i haven't made a donation since i upgraded my gateway to 4.1 ... i have an excuse !!! and it was only last week. and i will) And this is exactly the problem. Look, you guys can quibble all you want about awww, we should be able to make our own distros Yes,

Re: I need a new non-sucky laptop...

2007-10-02 Thread Bob Beck
This time you should really let the U of A buy you one ;) -Bob * Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-01 23:37]: Through mysterious circumstances, my Thinkpad T42 disappeared in the Minneapolis airport today. I know it went into the xray machine. I know I didn't have it

Re: To whom can I direct email for artwork use permission pls?

2007-10-01 Thread Bob Beck
Wouldn't it be win-win if people there could buy DVD (with more data on it, i.e. needing less downloads) and an agreement could be made that XX $ (enough to compensate for the not-sold CDs) for each DVD sold are paid to OpenBSD? No, it wouldn't. The project has already contemplated

Re: Greytrapping by destination server IP (Honeypotting?)

2007-09-27 Thread Bob Beck
* Richard Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-27 07:49]: In recent weeks I have seen a number of spam attempts to servers we host that should never see them. More concisely, people are trying to send spam by connecting to port 25 on our web servers. These connections die on their arse because we

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-27 Thread Bob Beck
* Juan Miscaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-27 11:36]: --- Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] greylisting does what it does. It delays the initial email for 30 minutes or more. what you do with that 30 minutes will decide on how effective it is for you. In that 30

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-26 Thread Bob Beck
I'm not 100% certain I'm getting your idea here ... we do currently run inbound/outbound mail on different IPs, but the problem isn't with the connections themselves. From the example session transcript with spamd that I posted earlier: 250 Hello, spam sender. Pleased to be wasting your

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-26 Thread Bob Beck
Oh, I'm not saying it doesn't work. What I'm saying is, greylisting is trivial to bypass, and some spammers have figured that out. Amazingly, most of them still haven't, which is why it still works in a significant number of cases. greylisting does what it does. It delays the

OpenBSD misc gets most fed Trolls award....

2007-09-20 Thread Bob Beck
Lemme give you a big whack with the old cluestick guys.. Trolls only work if you *respond*. If you don't feed it. it goes away. Please just stop feeding the trolls.

Re: another spamd-setup question

2007-09-19 Thread Bob Beck
spews has been dead for a while. this is why with recent releases of openbsd, we don't include it in the example files anymore - spews started taking a tack of basically including every ISP on the planet, since only big companies should be able to send mail. which, of course, is bullshit.

Re: Define hosts lookup for pf.conf

2007-09-19 Thread Bob Beck
fresh pom blood perchance? Fresh luser blood. Non Ex Transverso Sed Deorsum... Now, please return to discussing openbsd... -Bob

Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words

2007-09-14 Thread Bob Beck
* Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-14 02:58]: Daniel Ouellet wrote: Look to me if a corporation wanted to kill the open source, they couldn't pick a better way to do it and here the GPL is walking right into it! Or may be some guys are well paid to create the problem and destroy

Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words

2007-09-14 Thread Bob Beck
* Bob Beck beck [2007-09-14 08:14]: * Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-14 02:58]: Daniel Ouellet wrote: Doesn't this simply sound like making free software developers and users lose their freedoms and work they've authored? Who wins? probably the people who want to sell

Re: lost whitelisted hosts with spamd

2007-09-13 Thread Bob Beck
spamlogd not only needs to be running, but it needs to see the connections - your pf rules need to log them correctly. The best way to see if this is happening is to fire off some debug level syslogging, and see if spamlogd is logging lines for the hosts that connect in. You

Re: OpenBSD Install Goal

2007-09-13 Thread Bob Beck
I hope one day soon OpenBSD will adopt a nice ncurses setup similar to something like FreeBSD with ease to it. I don't think it's worth putting my efforts into. The current installer is about the easiest thing I have to deal with from AIX, 4 linux distributions, and FreeBSD. As

Re: scanner??

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Beck
Interesting, because I'm seeking the same. Based on sane's site and what was at the local staples, I bought a Canon Lide 25 - however the sane support on openbsd didn't work, better yet, if I boot to windows to see if the thing is boned or not, trying to install the windows driver crashes

Re: scanner??

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Beck
of pain that was my vasectomy... If I get something that works I'll let the list know. -Bob On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Bob Beck wrote: Interesting, because I'm seeking the same. Based on sane's site and what was at the local staples, I bought a Canon Lide 25 - however the sane support

Re: using spamd to grey-TRAP *only*, with *no* grey-LIST delays, stutters, etc ?

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Beck
My question is about using spamd to GREYTRAP, but not GREYLIST. spamd doesn't do that. because it needs to look at the address in order to trap. it does this offline after one delay. It is not written to do instantaneous type trapping, because your MTA can do that. -Bob

Re: using spamd to grey-TRAP *only*, with *no* grey-LIST delays, stutters, etc ?

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Beck
* snowcrash+openbsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-11 11:41]: hi, it does this offline after one delay well, fair enough, then. what, then, is the MINIMUM value of that delay? 1 minute is obviouly OK. Nope, because it's up to the client (the other end) how fast he retries.

I respect the GPL immensely, really I do - but I believe this type of action weakens us all.

2007-09-01 Thread Bob Beck
[ A copy of this is going to the linux kernel mailing list, regarding the recent license modifications to reyk's files] Oh, and if you look at the OpenBSD CVS you see versions 4 months old with dozens of contributions by Reyk and with: /* $OpenBSD: ath.c,v 1.63 2007/05/09 16:41:14 reyk

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Bob Beck
As a free software user and developer, the question I have is how come the Linux community feels that they can take the BSD code that was reverse-engineered at OpenBSD, and put a more restrictive licence onto it, such that there will be no possibility of the changes going back to OpenBSD, given

Re: spamd DB_SCAN_INTERVAL

2007-08-30 Thread Bob Beck
* Tom Bombadil [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-30 13:56]: Hi all... What happens if we change #define DB_SCAN_INTERVAL 60 to 600 in /usr/src/libexec/spamd/grey.h? Probably Bad things. Sorry, I'm no C coder... Basically we just want to spread out table scans for now until we get new

Announcing: The OpenBSD Foundation

2007-07-25 Thread Bob Beck
The OpenBSD Foundation is pleased to announce today it has completed its organization as a Canadian federal non-profit corporation and is ready for public interaction. The OpenBSD Foundation has been formed for the purpose of supporting the OpenBSD project, and related projects such as

Re: mysql problem

2007-07-13 Thread Bob Beck
You are setting the user, not the login class. You have made a login class _mysql in /etc/login.conf, but it looks like you may not have that as user _mysql's default login class. You need to either change user _mysql to be in the _mysql login class by default, (hint, chfn _mysql

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