Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 09:07:38AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 9/1/20 12:56 am, Ian Darwin wrote: > >> - If we could clean-room implement a BSD-licensed > >> EXT3/EXT4/BTRFS/XFS/JFS/whatever, following style(8), would there be > >> interest in supporting that in OpenBSD? > > > > And which

Re: But there is Fossil...

2020-01-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:34:55PM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > One good thing with this trainwreck of a discussion is that it pointed > me to GoT. I've been looking for an alternative to CVS on my Amiga, > but git is too convoluted to even start trying to build on a > mostly-C89-semi-POSIX

Re: Automated OS builds?

2020-01-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 06:08:55PM +, Paul Suh wrote: > On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Morten Gade Liebach wrote: > > > > Read release(8), then write a script runs through the described process. > > I can do that, and will if I have to, but if someone has already done it or > has a base to

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:52:03PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > > You have something like 3 lines of perl to play with ;) > > is there a todo list somewhere ? More or less in my head, with lots of subprojects progressing at any given time. - I want to retire PackageLocator and have more

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 09:43:21AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 3/1/20 8:50 am, Marc Chantreux wrote: > >> Like this thread, or worse? > > * long doesn't mean endless > > * sharing points of view is never sterile (yours is inspired by other > > ones, right?) > > I would say it's been

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 04:10:43PM -0500, Paul Wisehart wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 09:12:42PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > > > > Here are my current guidelines for OpenBSD perl tools. > > > > Can you eleborate in greater detail? > Not really, just go read th

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 02:40:25PM -0600, danieljb...@icloud.com wrote: > What if you want named parameters? (i.e. sending a hash as your > argument) > > sub m4 > { > my $self = shift; > my %args = @_; > > # and then optionally > my ($arg1, $arg2, $arg3) = @args{qw/arg1 arg2

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 03:24:41PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: > mod_perl, from reading the mailing list, looks like it will die off > before long. Lack of developers and funding and interest given all the > newer replacements. Don't even think about using mod_perl these days. Fast-cgi is the

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 07:49:28PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 10:42:54AM -0600, danieljb...@icloud.com wrote: > > I don't understand why people say that perl's flexibility is a negative. > > because sometimes, flexibility permit some endless sterile debates about > the

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 04:22:08PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > hello, > > > > my %user = qw( > > > login mc > > > shell /bin/zsh > > > ); > > > print $user{login}; > > > my %user = ( login => 'mc', shell => 'bin/zsh'); > > is way more readable in that case, I

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 12:40:51PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > the quoting system > > # qw( for a list of barewords ) > my %user = qw( > login mc > shell /bin/zsh > ); > print $user{login}; I wouldn't write it that way my %user = ( login => 'mc', shell =>

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 07:34:22PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 2/1/20 12:30 am, Marc Chantreux wrote: > > * the python community was unfair comparing the langages (using ugly > > perl code and nice python counterparts). instead of taking time to > > explain all the biases, perl

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 04:44:48PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > > I still thing DBIx::Class is overkill. The DB::Rose stuff was way simpler > > and I would have preferred for it to win. > > Well... i liked the simplicity until i had some cases like having 2 > different DBs with the same model:

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 03:43:38PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > hello, > > > The only thing that's really missing in perl is proper thread support. > > Don't know if that's going to happen. > > seems ... complicated ... Tell me about it. The only existing thread support was so clunky it got

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:56:46PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote: > read fucking code. change fucking things. send some fucking diffs. get > fucking yelled at. learn from your fucking mistakes. show some fucking > passion. filter fucking misc@ and all this useless bleating into the > toilet. > > none

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 09:06:38PM +0100, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 5:50 PM Marc Espie wrote: > > > We did retire vax, and we no longer have any platform without dynamic > > libraries. > > > > > OT but: out of sheer curiosity, why did

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 10:06:47AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 4:51 AM Stuart Longland > wrote: > > > Perl 6 will be a major change though, more disruptive than the Python2→3 > > mess was. So we may be in for some "fun" in the near future. > > Gotta stop this before

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 10:01:50PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 15:57:47 -0600 > Eric Zylstra wrote: > > > Proposing such a huge project without the ability to do it? I may > > have been a little disrespectful, but not the first one in the > > thread. And my point wasn’t to

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 10:36:15PM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > Of course its age is showing in some areas but in my experience, those > things are actually still worked on, and have been fixed without major > incompatibilities (python3 anyone?). The only thing that's really missing in perl

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2019-12-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 10:45:34PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 31/12/19 3:54 pm, Marc Espie wrote: > > Contrary to what some people might think, the tools in question won't be > > easier to understand and manage if written in another language. > > I'm of the opin

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2019-12-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 06:57:02AM -0600, Daniel Boyd wrote: > As one of the few remaining people out there who considers perl to be their > favorite language—starting to wonder if it’s just me and Larry Wall at this > point—I’d like to say that perl should stay in base on its merits, all the >

Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl with Lua in the OpenBSD Base System

2019-12-30 Thread Marc Espie
Removing perl from base would be very painful. I don't fancy rewriting all the perl tools in something else (specifically, most of the ports and package infrastructure) lua would definitely NOT be appropriate for that. The only half valid candidate would be python. Contrary to what some people

Re: How to use proot?

2019-12-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 01:11:51PM -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote: > (Adding misc@openbsd.org back to CC.) > > Marc Espie writes: > > > Just have your ports tree checked out under your mount point. > > Next time it will be much faster ;) > > Unfortunately my loongson box

Re: How to use proot?

2019-12-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 06:35:34PM -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a chroot for dpb using proot, but it looks like I'm > doing something wrong and nothing has been created in the chroot > directory. According to proot man page the following command should be > sufficient,

Re: Installing OpenBSD -current snapshots

2019-11-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:05:30PM -0600, Clay Daniels wrote: > I have successfully installed OpenBSD 6.6 release and would like to give > the Current Snapshots a try. I went to a mirror, and to: Just run sysupgrade -s Done.

Re: pkg_info -Q bug?

2019-11-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:13:37PM +0200, Dumitru Moldovan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:15:05AM +0100, Antonio Bibiano wrote: > > Hello, > > I just wanted to add to this thread that I incurred in the same > > issue on a fresh 6.6 installation. > > I also tried with a different mirror in

Re: Is there an easier way to browse ports?

2019-11-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 08:03:54AM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: > Oh, ok... Do you recall an example offhand? (I haven't noticed systemic > problems with either, but then I'm hardly a ports expert!) > Thanks, > -Adam About anything that's an heavy flavor/pseudo-flavors/multi-packages user.

Re: Is there an easier way to browse ports?

2019-11-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 04:44:48PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: > Also http://openports.se/ and http://ports.su/ . Don't use those, they don't know how the openbsd ports are named.

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

2019-10-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 08:10:16AM -0700, Chris Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:38:20AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote: > > > Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :) > > > > Co

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

2019-10-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote: > Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :) Considering all the people using it, it would be great if someone were to look at the enhancements of fvwm2 (wrong license, so not base) and backport some of these to our elderly

Re: Requesting vi tips

2019-10-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 03:45:42PM +0100, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > Claudio Jeker writes: > > set wl=72 will limit the line lenght to around 72. Additionally you > > can use !fmt with movement chars to reformat sections. I use !{fmt > > or {!}fmt frequently to reformat the paragraph I'm in. > > I

Re: Contribute to base

2019-10-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 08:49:56PM +0200, ports wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I've been a great fan of openbsd for a while and wanted to start out > contributing to openbsd's base. > > For that reason I wondered if there is a recommended way of getting to > know how the internals of openbsd

Re: How can I remove sets installed by sysupgrade?

2019-09-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 02:31:59PM -, Stuart Henderson wrote: > (To be clear, I think installing a restricted subset of the OS for > security reasons is pointless here, but can be really helpful when you > have to deal with limited space in partitions - and those just saying > "storage is

Re: How can I remove sets installed by sysupgrade?

2019-09-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 01:48:19PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 01:27:23PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > | > By having each set install a specific file in a well-known location. > | > Before sysupgrade I wrote my own script to upgrade machines, this uses >

Re: How can I remove sets installed by sysupgrade?

2019-09-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 01:08:45PM +0200, Florian Obser wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:43:20AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > > I'm a bit surprised nobody looked at instrumenting what sets are actually > > installed on a machine during install/manual upgrade and cloning that >

Re: How can I remove sets installed by sysupgrade?

2019-09-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 01:15:06PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:39:00AM +0100, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > | Marc Espie writes: > | > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:01:47AM +0100, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > | > > Marc Espie writes: > | > > >

Re: How can I remove sets installed by sysupgrade?

2019-09-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:01:47AM +0100, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > Marc Espie writes: > > I'm a bit surprised nobody looked at instrumenting what sets are actually > > installed on a machine during install/manual upgrade and cloning that > > into sysupgrade to avoid

Re: How can I remove sets installed by sysupgrade?

2019-09-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 08:02:05AM +0200, Marcus MERIGHI wrote: > Morning Judah! > > koche...@hotmail.com (Judah Kocher), 2019.09.15 (Sun) 05:12 (CEST): > > I ran it and found too late that it installed all the x*, Comp and Game > > sets, which were not part of the original install.

Re: Impossible to remove a broken package on 6.5.

2019-09-10 Thread Marc Espie
More specifically: add an indirection to solving dependencies for pure pkg_delete, so that we don't end up constructing full UpdateSets for no reason Index: AddCreateDelete.pm === RCS file:

Re: documentation for building a new package?

2019-09-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 09:30:33AM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > what do i need to read regarding steps and procedure > for building a new package and having it included in > the openbsd repository? Web site, porting information

Re: Impossible to remove a broken package on 6.5.

2019-09-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 07:13:21AM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > Angelo Rossi [angelo.rossi.home...@gmail.com] wrote: > > > > # pkg_delete -v kicad > > Can't locate object method "updateset_with_new" via package > > "OpenBSD::PkgDelete::State" at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/Dependencies.pm > >

Re: Impossible to remove a broken package on 6.5.

2019-09-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Angelo Rossi wrote: > # pkg_delete -v kicad > Can't locate object method "updateset_with_new" via package > "OpenBSD::PkgDelete::State" at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/Dependencies.pm > line 309. Update your pkg tools to -current, nothing bad will happen to

Re: pkg_add -u fails on nonexistant package

2019-08-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:40:28AM -0500, Jordon wrote: > Thanks - that fixed it. I figured there was some cleanup or maintenance that > needed to be done - i just didn't know how to do it. In running pkg_check, i > did get a lot of these: Packages normally don't need maintenance. What

Re: Host Header Redirection on openbsd.org

2019-08-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:59:46AM -0400, Daniel Jakots wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 05:38:46 -0700, Claus Assmann > wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019, Marc Espie wrote: > > > [[...]] the same useless mp4 video. > > > > Maybe it is/contains an (attempt of a

Re: Host Header Redirection on openbsd.org

2019-08-05 Thread Marc Espie
Well, the main issue I've seen so far is you flooding my mailboxen with lots of copies of the same useless mp4 video. What a douche.

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

2019-07-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 09:52:02AM +0200, ropers wrote: > I wouldn't say the file name information is "meaningless". On Linux, > if a program opened and then unlinked a file, but you still remember > the file name, > then you can still find the file by grepping for its former name, > because the

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

2019-07-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 11:16:24PM +0200, ropers wrote: > On 09/07/2019, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > The lsof port didn't display filenames. That information is not > > available on OpenBSD (and is not trustworthy on other OS either; > > files could have been moved/replaced since opening). > >

Re: TCP wrapper alternative?

2019-07-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 11:03:36AM -0700, Thomas Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I'm considering an option to evaluate connecting IPs before they're evaluated > by `pf` in order to make some decisions about the "reputation" of a > connecting IP. Then if that reputation is low enough, some action could

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 08:04:23PM +0300, Leonid Bobrov wrote: > > An all-arches package snapshot currently runs at 200GB and adding > > symbols across the board would add a lot to this. > > Stuart and Espie, have you ever heard of compression? WTF is wrong with you ? I haven't participated to

Re: 6.5 pkg_add "Fatal error: Can't write session into tmp directory"

2019-07-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:58:12AM -, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2019-06-30, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > > I have 6.5/i386 installed on a PC Engines alix board (hostname 'sodium'), > > acting as a home firewall and router. I'd like to install some packages > > the firewall it to make

Re: The su manual doesn't mention use root account by default

2019-06-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 08:55:09AM +0100, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: > On 13/06/2019 07:17, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Mihai Popescu wrote: > > > >>> ... if no account is provided, root is the default > >> > >> I always considered that su is coming from _s_uper _u_ser. But maybe I > >> am wrong, I

Re: [mark.kette...@xs4all.nl: Check your machdep.allowaperture setting]

2019-06-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 06:20:55PM +0200, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi, > > In the french documentation on obsd4a's wiki, I wrote: > > "When to add this option? > When you see into xorg.log: > $ head /var/log/Xorg.0.log > [

[mark.kette...@xs4all.nl: Check your machdep.allowaperture setting]

2019-06-11 Thread Marc Espie
I think this is generic enough to belong on misc@ - Forwarded message from Mark Kettenis - Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:54:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Mark Kettenis To: t...@openbsd.org Subject: Check your machdep.allowaperture setting These days most OpenBSD users should have the

Re: Filesystem corruption on OpenBSD routers after power outage?

2019-06-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 05:12:20AM +, Roderick wrote: > > "-o union" was last in 3.7, disappeared in 3.8. Was there a reason? > > https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-3.7/mount Yes, the developers felt we couldn't make it work without bugs in a sane way. Locks over locks is insanely hard to get

Re: Prefered manpage idioms?

2019-05-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 01:37:41PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Jason McIntyre wrote: > > > i don;t think we can (or should) attempt to police this. > > Ouch, that typo really triggered my ADD, let's hope you don't make > similar errors in our manual pages. Yep, let's stick to seperate or

Re: Prefered manpage idioms?

2019-05-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 07:29:55PM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote: > i think any of man page, manual page, or manual is fine. > > > 2. Standard output > > > > Is it: > > Print to standard output/error > > tee(1) > > Print to the standard output/error > > cat(1), echo(1) > > Print to

Re: Missing file and Man page for out-of-date

2019-05-25 Thread Marc Espie
As for the full story, this is a whole sequence of events. Committee decided ports/infrastructure/man didn't belong in default manpath, because it's not part of sacro-sanct base. Fine, let's move the man pages to base. And then, Theo said some of those names are way too generic, we can't have

Re: Blind OpenBSD users

2019-05-14 Thread Marc Espie
As far as I know, the only software we have for blind people (and not just people with very poor eye sight) is misc/brltty. misc/screen also has support in the form of the shm flavor, which hooks to misc/brltty The main issue for this kind of thing is of course testing. This was done over 10

Re: headphone volume levels cannot be manipulated by mixerctl

2019-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
If you want to be read, configure your email to send normal messages. All I see is "Signed data", and I'm not necessarily going to open attachments to see what you're saying on a public mailing-list.

Re: Malloc config became global sysctl in 6.5

2019-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:34:01PM +0700, Igor Podlesny wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 12:26, Sebastien Marie wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:17:21PM +0700, Igor Podlesny wrote: > > > Previously users could have different behaviour of malloc simultaneously: > > > one in > > > global FS,

Re: how run pkg_check with a trusted kernel (a bit of forensics) and how to check kernel integrity.

2019-04-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 03:24:58PM +, Cord wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to run pkg_check but from a live usb stick. This because I want to > run a trusted kernel. > Maybe I just need to mount the root, mount the other slices and chroot > /bin/ksh ? > Also¹, is there a way to download all the

Re: Determining if a package is installed (regardless of version)

2019-04-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 09:05:37AM -0700, Thomas Frohwein wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 07:27:15AM +, Adam Steen wrote: > [...] > > I should have been more specific, my use case completes the check in two > > steps > > > > 1. find out whats installed, builds a list of packages > > 2.

Re: httpd: need root privileges

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 08:38:18PM +1300, worik wrote: > Yes. > > But is the error message: > > httpd: need root privileges > > Accurate? This is the paradox of modern secure code. You need to start stuff as root because you want to do stuff in startup code that you can only do as root,

Re: XSS vuln in cvsweb

2019-03-15 Thread Marc Espie
ote, and the > > second one was on software I got from OpenBSD ports. Not sure if I should > > be writing this to the ports mailing list though. > > > > I have written Marc Espie with a patch that I produced for cvsweb, but > > haven't heard from him in 11 hours so I

Re: sound volume reduction - chromium

2019-03-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 09:09:59AM -0600, joshua stein wrote: > On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 at 10:46:24 +0200, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone observe some sound volume reduction when chromium is > > displaying some specific tabs? > > > > I am using mpv in xterm with some internet

Re: is there anything like pdfnup or pdfjam?

2019-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 04:50:08PM +, rsyk...@disroot.org wrote: > Dear list, > > I want to print a pdf, but with two pages put > on one physical page. > > On linux, pdfnup or pdfjam can do it. On OpenBSD they do as well. > I cannot find these for OpenBSD. Because you don't know how to

Re: pkg_add source code modification

2018-12-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 07:31:48PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > That's typical for pkg_add(1). There are few programs in the tree - > even including unmaintained legacy stuff - where it is harder to > find anything. In pkg_add(1), code for each object is typically > scattered across many files,

Re: install portslist?

2018-12-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 03:40:05PM +0100, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > Hello, > > I now see this: > > odin$ pwd > /usr/ports > > odin$ make search key=texmacs > Please install portslist > pkg_add portslist > *** Error 1 in /usr/ports (Makefile:80 '/usr/local/share/ports-INDEX': @exit > 1) > >

Re: Core Dev?

2018-12-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 02:30:50PM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > - I honestly didn't intend to call him (Antoine) or anyone else for the > record, bad in anyway. I think my homework was lacking, that is the issue > here. But please don't bash me, for not knowing who Antoine is. You know I > could

Re: Core Dev?

2018-12-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 07:29:31PM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:47 AM Marc Espie wrote: > > > (note that Antoine is the 2nd most prolific contributor to OpenBSD in terms > > of # of commits) > > > > Sure, Marc, but that's just because

Re: Core Dev?

2018-12-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 09:52:09AM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Thanks guys. I did see a reference of his name here and there. I just wanted > to make sure (and thus asked it here). You're probably a *very* occasional user of OpenBSD. (note

Re: Core Dev?

2018-12-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 12:17:20AM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Can anyone tell me, > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > Should I take

Re: why thread is not usable in perl5 of OpenBSD6.4?

2018-11-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 09:32:33PM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:57 AM 岡本健二 wrote: > > > I have to use thread on the perl5 of OpenBSD 6.4. > > However, it was disabled on the distribution. > > > > Hmm, is this something that worked in previous releases, or is

Re: Portslist

2018-11-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 07:22:09PM +0100, Jan Betlach wrote: > Because when I tried to add the portslist package, it has not been found ( > ftp.spline.de mirror) yesterday. I have tried adding it again now after > reading you message and it has been successfully installed. Ah, so your reporting

Re: Portslist

2018-11-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 02:32:02PM +0100, Jan Betlach wrote: > Hi all, > > strange problem. I am running -current. I have downloaded latest ports > tree .tar.gz to /temp, then tar xzf in /usr. > All ports are where they belong (/usr/ports). > However when searching anything (make search

Re: python3 script not running as root

2018-11-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 09:36:45AM +0100, Markus Rosjat wrote: > Hi Martin and  Daniel, > > Am 15.11.2018 um 09:24 schrieb Martin Sukany: > >Hi, > > > >you'd fix this by defining PATH variable in your crontab, or specify the > >full path to python3 interpreter instead using env. > > > as daniel

Re: X won't start with latest snapshot as user (Solution provided)

2018-11-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 09:26:32AM -0600, Edgar Pettijohn III wrote: > > On 11/11/18 12:59 AM, Marc Espie wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 10:42:57PM -0600, Andrew wrote: > >>Personally I use spectrwm, so I can't speak for other the wm's. In my > >>case, all I

Re: X won't start with latest snapshot as user (Solution provided)

2018-11-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 10:42:57PM -0600, Andrew wrote: > Personally I use spectrwm, so I can't speak for other the wm's. In my > case, all I had to do was: > > $> cp .xinitrc .xsession > $> chmod +x .xsession > > ... and it "just worked" as expected :-) You were lucky to not have something

Re: Benchmarking kernel, userland and Xenocara build processes

2018-10-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:11:03AM +0200, Jyri Hovila [Turvamies.fi] wrote: > Hi, > > just for the record, and to inform others who may still be at loss regarding > this matter: when compiling stuff (particularly Big Stuff, such as the > userland) on an OpenBSD machine with several CPU cores,

Re: Libreoffice package missing in i386 tree

2018-10-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:03:44AM +0200, Peter Hessler wrote: > Packages for i386 are finalized and are uploaded to the mirrors. What > you see, is what was built. > > > On 2018 Oct 22 (Mon) at 08:15:18 +0300 (+0300), Kihaguru Gathura wrote: > :Hi, > : > :Is the LibreOffice package in the i386

Re: pkg_add exit status reporting

2018-10-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 02:12:48PM -0700, Greg Steuck wrote: > Hi Marc, > > I was trying to automate an installation script around pkg_add > [0] > and noticed some cases where error reporting and/or documentation

Re: Pkg_add

2018-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 03:33:06PM +0200, Johan Mellberg wrote: > Den sön 16 sep. 2018 kl 09:40 skrev Solène Rapenne : > > > > Le 2018-09-16 03:33, Michael Ayres a écrit : > > > Thanks to everyone who has replied in helping me. I have read up on > > > the man pages and I understand what I need; it

Re: make(1) and multiple outputs

2018-09-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 12:14:45PM -0900, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:23 AM Marc Espie wrote: > > > Our make is perfectly happy generating several targets with one rule. > > > > The only thing we're actually missing wrt % is suffixes rules w

Re: how to install perl modules w/ dependencies that mix packages & CPAN

2018-09-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 05:52:57PM -0700, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > What's the "OpenBSD way" to install Perl modules which don't exist > as packages? > > The usual Perl idiom for "install module foo & all of its (recursive) > dependencies" is "cpan install foo", but this fetches all

Re: make(1) and multiple outputs

2018-09-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 09:23:33AM +0200, Kristaps Dzonsons wrote: > Short: is there a way to manage multiple outputs from a single command > with OpenBSD's make(1)? > > Longer story. I have a site that generates a few hundred articles using > sblg(1). Each output article is indexNNN.html,

Re: lsof alternative for listing open files?

2018-08-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:29:04PM -0500, Edward Lopez-Acosta wrote: > Hi Ingo, > > I was looking to port bleachbit, system cleanup tool, to OpenBSD and one > function is to make sure certain files are not in use before it proceeds. An > example would be cache files by a browser which would need

reminder: -current

2018-07-14 Thread Marc Espie
If you want to run -current packages, *you must run a -current base snapshot*. In particular, there have been a *ton* of commits to the package tools over the last two months. Quite a few new-fangled features, which are pervasive in the ports tree, rely *heavily* on stuff that wasn't there 2

Re: "Cannot allocate memory" error when memory is enough

2018-07-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 05:31:22PM +0800, Nan Xiao wrote: > Hi all, > > Greeting from me! > > I am running OpenBSD 6.3, and don't know from when, loading some > binary will prompt "Cannot allocate memory": > > $ egdb > ksh: egdb: Cannot allocate memory > > $ cmake > ksh: cmake: Cannot allocate

Re: sgtty.h

2018-06-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 05:05:02PM +0200, Pau wrote: > Hello: > > I am trying to compile a very old piece of software, supermongo, on -current. > > The first complain I get from gmake is that > > get1char.c:26:14: fatal error: 'sgtty.h' file not found > #include > ^ >

Re: chromium and firefox - myths and facts?

2018-06-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 01:28:04PM +0200, Marko Cupa�? wrote: > Hi, > > over last few years, I got an impression that OpenBSD project seem to > favour Chromium over Firefox. For example, in: > > https://www.openbsd.org/papers/BeckPledgeUnveilBSDCan2018.pdf > > "We know it's right when we can do

Re: Programming for OpenBSD

2018-05-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:41:00PM -0400, Kevin Burke wrote: > Hey guys, fell asleep waiting for a point.

Re: build and ports mismatching ?

2018-05-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 07:51:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > That is at least detected by package tools and more easily fixed :) The package tools err on the side of caution because we've been burnt too many times. There is often whining about it from other developers because sometimes

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 06:35:17AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: > For younger UNIX users, the real reason is technical limits of hardware then. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#IBM_80-column_punched_card_format_and_character_codes >

Re: pledge violation in firefox-60 on snapshots

2018-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:41:17AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2018-05-16, William Orr wrote: > > Clicking the password field will consistently cause that tab in firefox > > to crash with a pledge violation (calling fork): > > > > firefox[75379]: pledge "proc",

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:51:43PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi, > > x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200: > > > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and > > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: > > > > [meta

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:26:10AM +0200, Solene Rapenne wrote: > > x...@dr.com writes: > > > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and > > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: > > See no offence here, I wonder what is the context leading to

Re: pkg_add with packages created by ports

2018-05-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 01:08:49PM +, Mik J wrote: > Thank you Martijn for this quick answer.So should I do something likeexport > TRUSTED_PKG_PATH=/usr/ports/packages/amd64/all/ More or less, yep. That's not done by default because you should make sure which packages you built yourself,

Re: Confusing with 'perl /usr/ports/infrastructure/bin/clean-old-distfiles' script

2018-04-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 07:42:31PM +0100, Nigel Taylor wrote: > On 04/05/18 17:52, Denis wrote: > > I try to clean 'old' distfiles by a command 'perl > > /usr/ports/infrastructure/bin/clean-old-distfiles' without success. > > > > Getting this: > > 'No history to prune at > >

Re: "pkg_add automake%latest" can be done, or user needs to script it himself?

2018-03-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 02:46:58AM -0400, Tinker wrote: > Hi! > > Some packages, such as automake and autoconf, come in more versions > within the same flavor. > > Certain ports will depend on a particular version of a package, and > that's why more versions of the same package and flavor are >

Re: Please explain the pkg_check F option, thank you.

2018-02-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 07:48:34PM +, Zsolt Kantor wrote: > Thanks Sebastien, I just figured out this. Now everything is clear. > If I may propose something . . . those "Not found" items even if it is not an > error, is a little bit misleading . . . From a simple user's point of view > the

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