Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Daniel Gracia Garallar
Manufactures use the 'giga' prefix in the International System meaning. That said, 1Gb would be 10^9 = 1,000,000,000 bytes. Computer programmers, OS and all around computer chit-chat use the prefix 'giga' to refer 2^30 = 1,073,741,824 bytes. IEC recommends calling this GiB, but it's

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Edho P Arief
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Daniel Gracia Garallar danie...@electronicagracia.com wrote: Manufactures use the 'giga' prefix in the International System meaning. That said, 1Gb would be 10^9 = 1,000,000,000 bytes. Computer programmers, OS and all around computer chit-chat use the prefix

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:35:18PM +0700, Edho P Arief wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Daniel Gracia Garallar danie...@electronicagracia.com wrote: Manufactures use the 'giga' prefix in the International System meaning. That said, 1Gb would be 10^9 = 1,000,000,000 bytes. Computer

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Beck
There are many stupid ideas in other operating systems, I don't see why we should be required to implement them. Yeah, and the discussion of my ass is a more productive discussion than talking about making df display marketing gigabytes That'll happen in openbsd right after we switch the

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Edho P Arief
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca wrote: There are many stupid ideas in other operating systems, I don't see why we should be required to implement them. Yeah, and the discussion of my ass is a more productive discussion than talking about making df display marketing

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca wrote: There are many stupid ideas in other operating systems, I don't see why we should be required to implement them. Yeah, and the discussion of my ass is a more productive discussion than talking about making df display marketing

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:28:00AM +0100, Daniel Gracia Garallar wrote: Computer programmers, OS and all around computer chit-chat use the prefix 'giga' to refer 2^30 = 1,073,741,824 bytes. IEC recommends calling this GiB, but it's uncommon. Today, you could assume safely only

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-29 Thread Marco Peereboom
bits are absolute. this discussion should take a turn to beck's ass again. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 07:29:54PM +0100, Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:28:00AM +0100, Daniel Gracia Garallar wrote: Computer programmers, OS and all around computer chit-chat use the prefix

200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-28 Thread Jennifer Ma
hi all, lately, i obtained a seagate 200g(wd1) harddisk from my elder brother, after i disklabel, newfs and mount the disk. only 174g is shown as available, in windows(through samba), said 9.16g already been used. is there any way i can claim those space back? much thanks! # disklabel wd1 #

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-28 Thread Johan Beisser
Two words: Filesystem Overhead. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jennifer Ma jen.ma1...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, lately, i obtained a seagate 200g(wd1) harddisk from my elder brother, after i disklabel, newfs and mount the disk. only 174g is shown as available, in windows(through samba),

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-28 Thread Paul de Weerd
Hi Jennifer, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 02:59:01PM +0800, Jennifer Ma wrote: | 16 partitions: | #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] | a:390721905 63 4.2BSD 2048 163841 | c:3907219680 unused | | | # df -h | #

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-28 Thread Robert
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:59:01 +0800 Jennifer Ma jen.ma1...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, lately, i obtained a seagate 200g(wd1) harddisk from my elder brother, after i disklabel, newfs and mount the disk. only 174g is shown as available, in windows(through samba), said 9.16g already been used. is

Re: 200g harddisk after newfs = Available 174g?

2009-10-28 Thread Peter Strömberg
On 28 Oct 2009 at 14:59, Jennifer Ma wrote: hi all, lately, i obtained a seagate 200g(wd1) harddisk from my elder brother, after i disklabel, newfs and mount the disk. only 174g is shown as available, in windows(through samba), said 9.16g already been used. is there any way i can claim