Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-10 Thread STeve Andre'
Even easier,  have stty status set to ^T, and run dd . When you want to know where you are in the process hit ^T.  Lots (most?) of programs will respond to a SIGINFO request. --STeve Andre' ​ On Jun 10, 2020, 12:48, at 12:48, Luke Small wrote: >if you have access to packages, you could

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-10 Thread Luke Small
if you have access to packages, you could "pkg_add pv" and: "dd if=/dev/random | pv | dd of=/dev/rsdXc bs=1m" It will show you in real time how much random data has been written to disk. -Luke On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:43 AM Luke Small wrote: > I mean: "dd if=/dev/random | pv | dd

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-08 Thread Ian Darwin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 12:49:41PM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: > On Mon, 01 Jun 2020 13:38:55 -0400 > "Eric Furman" wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > > [...] > > > > This is why if you are serious you use a degausser. > > > > The truly serious use a

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
On Mon, 01 Jun 2020 13:38:55 -0400 "Eric Furman" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > [...] > > This is why if you are serious you use a degausser. > The truly serious use a smelter. I am not making a joke. -- Edward Ahlsen-Girard Ft Walton Beach, FL

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2020-06-05, Roderick wrote: >> I'd think that a degausser would also erase the servo tracks which will make >> the disk irrevocably unusable. If that's what you want then just drill holes >> through the disk - it's quicker. > > Or perhaps to put it on an induction cooktop? I always keep a

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Roderick
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, Eike Lantzsch wrote: I'd think that a degausser would also erase the servo tracks which will make the disk irrevocably unusable. If that's what you want then just drill holes through the disk - it's quicker. Or perhaps to put it on an induction cooktop?

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Monday, 1 June 2020 13:38:55 -04 Eric Furman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > > storage medium. Due to smart disks remapping your data in case of > > 'broken' sectors, some old data can never be properly overwritten. > > This is why if you are serious you use a

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Roderick
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, Janne Johansson wrote: Then again, if you count how many hours it will take to securely erase a disk, one might doubt the option of "just run this command and it will do the same in 10 seconds". Not 10 seconds, but there will be sure a difference if the task is done by

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Martin Schröder
Am Fr., 5. Juni 2020 um 09:21 Uhr schrieb Roderick : > Is not there a SCSI command "sanitize" for that? Secure erase: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA#HDD_passwords_and_security Or you encrypt your device and throw away the key. Best Martin

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Janne Johansson
Den fre 5 juni 2020 kl 09:23 skrev Roderick : > Is not there a SCSI command "sanitize" for that? > Can be issued with OpenBSD? > Perhaps his disc supports it. > Then again, if you count how many hours it will take to securely erase a disk, one might doubt the option of "just run this command and

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Roderick
Is not there a SCSI command "sanitize" for that? Can be issued with OpenBSD? Perhaps his disc supports it. Rod.

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 08:39:24PM -0700, Justin Noor wrote: > Thanks you @misc. > > Using dd with a large block size will likely be the course of action. > > I really need to refresh my memory on this stuff. This is not something we > do, or need to do, everyday. > > Paul your example shows:

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-05 Thread Paul de Weerd
Hi Justin, On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 08:39:24PM -0700, Justin Noor wrote: | Thanks you @misc. | | Using dd with a large block size will likely be the course of action. | | I really need to refresh my memory on this stuff. This is not something we | do, or need to do, everyday. | | Paul your

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-04 Thread Justin Noor
Thanks you @misc. Using dd with a large block size will likely be the course of action. I really need to refresh my memory on this stuff. This is not something we do, or need to do, everyday. Paul your example shows: bs=1048576 How did you choose that number? Could you have gone even bigger?

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 2020-06-01 06:58, Justin Noor wrote: Hi Misc, Has anyone ever filled a 4TB disk with random data and/or zeros with OpenBSD? How long did it take? What did you use (dd, openssl)? Can you share the command that you used? Thank you so much I've used OpenBSD to overwrite up to 8TB disks.

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Diana Eichert
or if a degausser isn't available use 7.62 x 51 sorry, couldn't help myself On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 11:41 AM Eric Furman wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > > storage medium. Due to smart disks remapping your data in case of > > 'broken' sectors, some old data

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Eric Furman
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > storage medium. Due to smart disks remapping your data in case of > 'broken' sectors, some old data can never be properly overwritten. This is why if you are serious you use a degausser.

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Daniel Jakots
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 14:33:44 - (UTC), Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Take care to pick the proper device corresponding to the drive you > want to overwrite. Don't make people miss a good opportunity to test their backups!

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2020-06-01, Justin Noor wrote: > Has anyone ever filled a 4TB disk with random data and/or zeros with > OpenBSD? Yes. > How long did it take? I don't remember. Hours. At a plausible 100 MB/s write speed it will take 11 hours. > What did you use (dd, openssl)? Can you share the command

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 06:58:01AM -0700, Justin Noor wrote: | Hi Misc, | | Has anyone ever filled a 4TB disk with random data and/or zeros with | OpenBSD? I do this before disposing of old disks. Have written random data to several sizes of disk, not sure if I ever wiped a 4TB disk. | How

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Janne Johansson
Den mån 1 juni 2020 kl 16:01 skrev Justin Noor : > Hi Misc, > Has anyone ever filled a 4TB disk with random data and/or zeros with > OpenBSD? > How long did it take? What did you use (dd, openssl)? Can you share the > command that you used? > My /dev/random on decent x86_64 give out more or less

Re: Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread STeve Andre'
The speed of writing is dependent on the rotational speed of the disk, and the i/o bandwidth of the system. You want to do    dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd1c bs=1m Note that this writes to the sd1 disk!  Carefully, carefully look at your disks and write to the correct one.  Writing to sd0 is

Filling a 4TB Disk with Random Data

2020-06-01 Thread Justin Noor
Hi Misc, Has anyone ever filled a 4TB disk with random data and/or zeros with OpenBSD? How long did it take? What did you use (dd, openssl)? Can you share the command that you used? Thank you so much