On 14/12/2010, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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are rarely as bad. A graphical and simple (probably impossible) OpenBSD
browser, would really be something, but now I'm just dreaming.
/snipped
xxxterm should fit that description.
hth
Fred
(Sent from xxxterm :~])
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:55:21 +
Fred Crowson fred.crow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/12/2010, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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are rarely as bad. A graphical and simple (probably impossible) OpenBSD
browser, would really be something, but now I'm just dreaming.
/snipped
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
That's about the third time it's been recommended and I've kept meaning
to look at it. I've been installing it for ages. Just loaded it up and
from the name was expecting a graphical curses browser but was rather
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
That's about the third time it's been recommended and I've kept meaning
to look at it. I've been installing it for ages. Just loaded it up and
Is there a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere to make email
secure even for amateurs who don't know how to use PGP? I'm very
curious about the future of email, especially now. I would like to
hear opinions of OpenBSD wizards. The thing is that it is very hard to
persuade someone to use PGP
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:06:49 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Is there a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere to make email
secure even for amateurs who don't know how to use PGP? I'm very
curious about the future of email, especially now. I would like to
hear opinions of
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:06:49 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
The thing is that it is very hard to
persuade someone to use PGP all the time.
it is very hard to persuade someone to use PGP in the first place, and
even harder to believe they have a secure machine. Sometimes you may
Well, since Egypt we know that it's not going to happen.
2010/12/14 roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:06:49 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Is there a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere to make email
secure even for amateurs who don't know how to use
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Is there a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere to make email
secure even for amateurs who don't know how to use PGP? I'm very
curious about the future of email, especially now. I would like to
hear opinions of
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:33:13 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Well, since Egypt we know that it's not going to happen.
2010/12/14 roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:06:49 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Is there a light at the end of the
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:33:13 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Well, since Egypt we know that it's not going to happen.
2010/12/14 roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:06:49 +0100
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Is there a light at the end of the
2010/12/14 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:06:49 +0100
it is very hard to persuade someone to use PGP in the first place, and
even harder to believe they have a secure machine.
I have a great experience with Pidgin and OTR. Even a child could
handle the first
Dan Kaminsky (http://dankaminsky.com) has been working on Domain Key
Infrastructure bootstrapped of of dnssec that looks pretty
interesting. I'm not sure where the video is for this talk (it was at
blackhat/defcon 2010), but I found the slides..
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Johan Beisser j...@caustic.org wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Is there a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere to make email
secure even for amateurs who don't know how to use PGP? I'm very
curious about the
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:38:54 -0800
xSAPPYx xsap...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan Kaminsky (http://dankaminsky.com) has been working on Domain Key
Infrastructure bootstrapped of of dnssec that looks pretty
interesting. I'm not sure where the video is for this talk (it was at
blackhat/defcon 2010), but
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:11:16PM -0700, Travis King wrote:
Joel Wiramu Pauling j...@aenertia.net wrote:
Marti Martinez ma...@ece.arizona.edu wrote:
Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
At some point you're going to realize that the javascript that
decrypts your mail has to come
On 13 December 2010 22:23, Joachim Schipper joac...@joachimschipper.nl
wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:11:16PM -0700, Travis King wrote:
Joel Wiramu Pauling j...@aenertia.net wrote:
Marti Martinez ma...@ece.arizona.edu wrote:
Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
At some point
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 17:01, lh maig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
I know it might sound funny, but what do you guys think about
feasibility of massively automatic PGP web mail with all
encryption/decryption done
what do you guys think
Personally, ...
web mail
... i consider that a contradiction, and stupid one.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Shulgin
alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote:
I know it might sound funny, but what do you guys think about
feasibility of massively automatic PGP web mail with all
encryption/decryption done through javascript in the client's browser?
At some point you're
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 20:32, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Shulgin
alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote:
I know it might sound funny, but what do you guys think about
feasibility of massively automatic PGP web mail with all
encryption/decryption
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Shulgin
alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote:
I know it might sound funny, but what do you guys think about
feasibility of massively automatic PGP web mail with all
On 13 December 2010 16:13, Marti Martinez ma...@ece.arizona.edu wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Shulgin
alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote:
I know it might sound funny, but what do you guys think about
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:57:52 +1300
Joel Wiramu Pauling j...@aenertia.net wrote:
On 13 December 2010 16:13, Marti Martinez ma...@ece.arizona.edu
wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Ted Unangst
ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
At some point you're going to realize that the javascript that
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:41:32PM +0100, roberth wrote:
Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote:
Adam M. Dutko wrote:
How do[es Lavabit] deal with legal jurisdiction? Technically the
government can still subpoena and they'd have to turn over the
documents in the persons account,
are that stupid). Or that the crackberry can only use an encrypted
connection with a blackberry server?
Certainly not; at my previous job, *all* of our Blackberry
email traffic to/from our non-Blackberry mail server was
encrypted.
Benny
--
I'm no meteorologist, but I'm pretty sure it's
On 12/9/10 12:34 PM, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote:
On 09/12/10 17:07, Gilles Chehade wrote:
Own box :-)
lhmaig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
That's ofcourse the best solution.
But YOU have to make it secure and private. If you're not able to do
this yourself, then your best option is to choose a
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:03:42 -0500, Adam M. Dutko dutko.a...@gmail.com
wrote:
How do they deal with legal jurisdiction? Technically the government can
still subpoena and they'd have to turn over the documents in the persons
account, including backups. I pine for Sealand but even then one would
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:01:41 -0300, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar wrote:
ARP Networks DOES have OpenBSD VPS. I run my mail there.
I'll second ARP Networks. I've been running Postfix and stuff on a
FreeBSD VPS there for many months now, and they've been wonderful.
They
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 22:34:40 +0200, Kapetanakis Giannis
bil...@edu.physics.uoc.gr wrote:
But YOU have to make it secure and private. If you're not able to do
this yourself, then your best option is to choose a strong password and
change it often. Also you have to trust the machine and the
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
Own box :-)
lh maig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
On 09/12/10 17:01, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
I believe privacy and gmail cannot coexist ...
Giannis
!gmail
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 03:01:03PM +, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
hotmail or live of course.
On 12/09/10 12:01, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
--
Sending from my Computer.
supossedly hushmail but no pop/imap (free version)
however, hushmail will get you laughed at
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:31 AM, lh maig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
Il 09/12/10 16.07, Gilles Chehade ha scritto:
Own box :-)
Thumbs up for Gilles! He's right, There are no better mail system than
your.own.server
lhmaig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
On 09/12/10 12:01, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
A box you own and control.
Gmail is NOT secure OR private.
I don't expect hotmail, yahoo, etc. to be so either.
Also, a few times hotmail released new versions of
+1
Very happy and safe running my own mailserver.
--
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death
that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it
to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn
the inner eye to see its path.
On 12/09/10 10:01, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
As many others suggested, using your own mail server that you control is
the *best* way, but that doesn't answer your question.
I know people that use Lavabit.com
On Thu, December 9, 2010 2:37 pm, Scott McEachern wrote:
On 12/09/10 10:01, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
As many others suggested, using your own mail server that you control is
the *best* way, but that
How do they deal with legal jurisdiction? Technically the government can
still subpoena and they'd have to turn over the documents in the persons
account, including backups. I pine for Sealand but even then one would
have to trust the owners of Sealand not to snoop. Again, the best solution
is
Unfortunately it appears that lavabit isn't accepting new users at the
moment. Their service does look interesting tho.
Thanks,
Josh Smith
KD8HRX
email/jabber: juice...@gmail.com
phone: 304.237.9369(c)
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Adam M. Dutko dutko.a...@gmail.com wrote:
How do they
From their services page:
5. Secure mail services (smtp-auth w/ TLS, IMAPs/POP3s)
I don't actually make use of this, as the killer app for a shell account
was a place where I could run (al)pine against local mail service (it is not
all that nice as a pop3 client, in my experience).
On Thu, Dec
On Thu, December 9, 2010 3:22 pm, patric conant wrote:
From their services page:
5. Secure mail services (smtp-auth w/ TLS, IMAPs/POP3s)
No, I'm referring to the encryption of the actual email saved on their
disks. See http://lavabit.com/secure.html.
On 09/12/10 17:07, Gilles Chehade wrote:
Own box :-)
lhmaig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
That's ofcourse the best solution.
But YOU have to make it secure and private. If you're not able to do
this yourself, then your best option is to choose a strong password and
change it often. Also you have
Adam M. Dutko wrote:
How do they deal with legal jurisdiction? Technically the government can
still subpoena and they'd have to turn over the documents in the persons
account, including backups.
Use GPG so all the ISP could do is hand over the encrypted bits. You
hold the key.
Brad
On 09/12/10 22:25, Josh Rickmar wrote:
On Thu, December 9, 2010 3:22 pm, patric conant wrote:
From their services page:
5. Secure mail services (smtp-auth w/ TLS, IMAPs/POP3s)
No, I'm referring to the encryption of the actual email saved on their
disks. See http://lavabit.com/secure.html
Lave bit seems to be having a few problems of their own:
Due to a recent increase in the number of accounts being created for
abusive purposes we have decided to suspend new user registrations until
further notice.
IANAL but can't they hold you in jail for contempt or insert charge here
until you hand it over. I thought I remember something similar in the news
recently.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote:
Adam M. Dutko wrote:
How do they deal with legal jurisdiction?
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:10:04 -, Adam M. Dutko dutko.a...@gmail.com
wrote:
IANAL but can't they hold you in jail for contempt or insert charge
here until you hand it over. I thought I remember something similarin
the news recently.
Depends where you live and where you store the data.
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:38:59 -0500
Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote:
Adam M. Dutko wrote:
How do they deal with legal jurisdiction? Technically the
government can still subpoena and they'd have to turn over the
documents in the persons account, including backups.
Use GPG so all
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Josh Rickmar joshua_rick...@eumx.net wrote:
On Thu, December 9, 2010 3:22 pm, patric conant wrote:
From their services page:
5. Secure mail services (smtp-auth w/ TLS, IMAPs/POP3s)
No, I'm referring to the encryption of the actual email saved on their
disks.
The only issue I have with running my own mail server is that I can receive
e-mails, but for whatever reason I cannot send out e-mails. I'm assuming it's
because mail servers are denying e-mails from my IP or something since I'm on a
residential connection. It doesn't even reach the Spam box,
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 03:33:26PM -0800, James Hozier wrote:
The only issue I have with running my own mail server is that I can receive
e-mails, but for whatever reason I cannot send out e-mails. I'm assuming it's
because mail servers are denying e-mails from my IP or something since I'm on
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, James Hozier wrote:
The only issue I have with running my own mail server is that I can
receive e-mails, but for whatever reason I cannot send out e-mails. I'm
assuming it's because mail servers are denying e-mails from my IP or
something since I'm on a residential connection.
On 09/12/2010 4:33 PM, James Hozier wrote:
The only issue I have with running my own mail server is that I can receive
e-mails, but for whatever reason I cannot send out e-mails. I'm assuming it's
because mail servers are denying e-mails from my IP or something since I'm on a
residential
My ISP refuses to modify any DNS settings and won't give me a static IP address
without a business account, so no proper reverse DNS. I don't have the
resources to run my own nameservers, so what alternatives do I have in terms of
running my own mailserver?
I have a suggestion, but I'm not sure about that, if you use a dynamic
dns like dyndns ?
On 10-12-09 08:20 PM, James Hozier wrote:
My ISP refuses to modify any DNS settings and won't give me a static IP address
without a business account, so no proper reverse DNS. I don't have the
resources
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:20 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote:
My ISP refuses to modify any DNS settings and won't give me a static IP
address without a business account, so no proper reverse DNS. I don't have
the resources to run my own nameservers, so what alternatives do I have
On 09/12/2010 6:20 PM, James Hozier wrote:
My ISP refuses to modify any DNS settings and won't give me a static IP address
without a business account, so no proper reverse DNS. I don't have the
resources to run my own nameservers, so what alternatives do I have in terms of
running my own
Received: from [96.250.43.19]
# host 96.250.43.19
19.43.250.96.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer
pool-96-250-43-19.nycmny.fios.verizon.net.
1. verizon blocks outgoing port 25
2. your ip range is shitlisted in most dnsbl
3. your reverse lookup matches the dynamic ip-match a lot of mx
simply
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, James Hozier wrote:
The only issue I have with running my own mail server is that I can
receive e-mails, but for whatever reason I cannot send out e-mails. I'm
assuming it's because mail servers are denying e-mails from my IP or
something since I'm on a residential
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:41:16 -0700
Lemuel Houyhnhnm lemuel_houyhn...@yahoo.com.mx wrote:
On 09/12/2010 6:20 PM, James Hozier wrote:
My ISP refuses to modify any DNS settings and won't give me a
static IP address without a business account, so no proper reverse
DNS. I don't have the
There are such laws in UK, I read about a kid jailed for not wanting to
give them the pass to his encrypted partitions, I think. But not in US,
for example, they recently caught a hacker (Moxie Marlinspike - maybe
many people here know the story), he refused to give them the pass, but
they could
From: roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st
Subject: Re: OT - gmail alternatives
To: misc@openbsd.org
Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 1:56 AM
Received: from [96.250.43.19]
# host 96.250.43.19
19.43.250.96.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer
pool-96-250-43-19.nycmny.fios.verizon.net.
1. verizon
A drop-in replacement to it I consider to be gmx.com - I used it for
quite some years now and have no doubt about their reliability. About
security... dunno.
My final option - for now, at least - was to find a cheap hosting in
Switzerland and run my personal email service there - payed 82b, or
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:01:03 +
lh maig...@netvisao.pt wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Cheers!
If you aren't a cheapskate you could ask henning@ for a quote.
(check bsws.de for the contact info)
Hosting on OpenBSD by an
On 09/12/10 22:20, James Hozier wrote:
My ISP refuses to modify any DNS settings and won't give me a static IP address
without a business account, so no proper reverse DNS. I don't have the
resources to run my own nameservers, so what alternatives do I have in terms of
running my own
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 15:01 +, lh wrote:
Hi,
what are the good available alternatives (security/privacy) for gmail
you're using?
Colo box (I'll toss the various virtual machine and chroot jail hosting
solutions into that).
Some flavor of VPN account where you can keep a nice static IP
From: roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st
Subject: Re: OT - gmail alternatives
To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 2:42 AM
maybe your verizon doesn't. or they dont anymore, pretty
sure they did
at some point.
so you are still hittting 2. and 3
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, James Hozier wrote:
I checked DNSBL and my IP seems OK for all of them. So it's just 3, and
Verizon won't set DNS settings for me so unless I run my own DNS servers
there's nothing I can do to resolve my IP address into my domain name
instead of my ISP hostname? (Instead
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