Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-08 Thread Marco Peereboom
Why do you ask this every release? Why wasn't the answer last time good enough for you? On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:35:37AM +0200, Sebastian Rother wrote: Guys if you realy care about security why does nobody asks about using gzsig. Even useable for the packages... Kind regards,

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-08 Thread Sebastian Rother
On Tue, 8 May 2007 07:28:32 -0500 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you ask this every release? Why wasn't the answer last time good enough for you? You missed the point. I didn`t asked but mentioned gzsig as alternativ to MD5-Hashes and other things wich are mentioned in the

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-07 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/5/7, Adam Hawes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MD5 is proven weak. It's possible to take almost any file and its MD5 then create an identically sized file with the same hash in a reasonable time. This can be used to pass out an arbitrary CD image that completely trashes the contents of your hard

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-07 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: 2007/5/7, Adam Hawes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MD5 is proven weak. It's possible to take almost any file and its MD5 then create an identically sized file with the same hash in a reasonable time. This can be used to pass out an

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-07 Thread Darren Spruell
On 5/7/07, Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, pgp requires a working web of trust, it's not secure just because you can sign something. Joe Cracker can easily generate a key with Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] and provides you with signed filesets. Who steps up to organise key signing

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-07 Thread Sebastian Rother
Guys if you realy care about security why does nobody asks about using gzsig. Even useable for the packages... Kind regards, Sebastian

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-06 Thread Adam Hawes
Um, can you site a single *real world* example of where md5 sums have been co-opted in any way? Yes, md5 now has a weakness, but really, are there any cases of anyone having actually exploited it? It's that kind of attitude that is responsible for probably more than half of the breaches that

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-06 Thread Open Phugu
On 5/6/07, Adam Hawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, can you site a single *real world* example of where md5 sums have been co-opted in any way? Yes, md5 now has a weakness, but really, are there any cases of anyone having actually exploited it? That is not my point. My point is that if MD5

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-06 Thread Lars Hansson
Open Phugu wrote: From a project that has always placed security before everything, I do not understand the motivation behind not using a secure algorithm such as SHA-256 or SHA-512. Maybe they just understand the security implications better than you do. --- Lars Hansson

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-06 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Open Phugu wrote: On 5/6/07, Adam Hawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, can you site a single *real world* example of where md5 sums have been co-opted in any way? Yes, md5 now has a weakness, but really, are there any cases of anyone having actually exploited it? That is not my point. My

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-05 Thread Justin Smith
Just out of curiosity... Is it logical to use an OS for the intense focus on security and correctness, yet download the binaries from a random person on a mailing list instead of any official source with reasonable file integrity checking process in place? From:

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-05 Thread Clint M. Sand
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:43:34PM +0200, Justin Smith wrote: Just out of curiosity... Is it logical to use an OS for the intense focus on security and correctness, yet download the binaries from a random person on a mailing list instead of any official source with reasonable file

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread John Fiore
Speaking of this, when will the OpenBSD project begin to post SHA256 hashes to the ftp sites. MD5 is dead: these two files are different and yet have the same MD5 hash. http://www.cits.rub.de/imperia/md/content/magnus/letter_of_rec.ps

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:34:33AM -0400, John Fiore wrote: | Speaking of this, when will the OpenBSD project begin to post SHA256 | hashes | to the ftp sites. MD5 is dead: these two files are different and yet | have the same | MD5 hash. |

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/05/04 17:03, Paul de Weerd wrote: Dont forget that they should also be valid gzip'ed tar archives that makes things *significantly* easier: valid gzip + random crap = valid gzip

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread Open Phugu
On 5/4/07, John Fiore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of this, when will the OpenBSD project begin to post SHA256 hashes to the ftp sites. MD5 is dead: these two files are different and yet have the same MD5 hash. http://www.cits.rub.de/imperia/md/content/magnus/letter_of_rec.ps

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread John Fiore
Great. Could you please show me the link to files that have the same length and MD5 as those in the 4.1 release? That means nothing. If the OpenBSD project used a CRC16 to verify integrity, your argument would still hold. I wasn't aware that I made an argument. I simply asked a

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread STeve Andre'
On Friday 04 May 2007 13:46:12 Open Phugu wrote: On 5/4/07, John Fiore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of this, when will the OpenBSD project begin to post SHA256 hashes to the ftp sites. MD5 is dead: these two files are different and yet have the same MD5 hash.

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-04 Thread Open Phugu
On 5/4/07, John Fiore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your point is taken, however, can you illustrate the threat against which the stronger hash is to protect? If the threat is that someone will redirect you to a fake openbsd.org (through DNS cache poisoning, etc.), the stronger hash offers no

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-03 Thread Michael Clark
If you participate on this list, buy the cds. This isn't your flavor of the week linux distro. On 5/2/07, Matiss Miglans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there is checksums only for base system, without X, source, ports, packages, etc Or, I don't know where they find. Open Phugu wrote:

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-02 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 02:33:50PM -0700, andrew fresh wrote: Probably everyone knows already, but I just wanted to get the word out that there are OpenBSD 4.1 torrents now on the torrent site: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=4.1 So far they are mostly just the files off

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-02 Thread Diana Eichert
just remember to make a donation to the OpenBSD project if you chose to acquire OpenBSD via any download site. g.day diana

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-02 Thread Clint M. Sand
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 02:33:50PM -0700, andrew fresh wrote: Probably everyone knows already, but I just wanted to get the word out that there are OpenBSD 4.1 torrents now on the torrent site: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=4.1 So far they are mostly just the files off

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Erdely
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:07:10PM -0400, Clint M. Sand wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 02:33:50PM -0700, andrew fresh wrote: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=4.1 Just out of curiosity... Is it logical to use an OS for the intense focus on security and correctness, yet

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-02 Thread Open Phugu
On 5/2/07, Mike Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:07:10PM -0400, Clint M. Sand wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 02:33:50PM -0700, andrew fresh wrote: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=4.1 Just out of curiosity... Is it logical to use an OS for the

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-02 Thread Matiss Miglans
I think there is checksums only for base system, without X, source, ports, packages, etc Or, I don't know where they find. Open Phugu wrote: On 5/2/07, Mike Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:07:10PM -0400, Clint M. Sand wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 02:33:50PM

OpenBSD 4.1 Torrents

2007-05-01 Thread andrew fresh
Probably everyone knows already, but I just wanted to get the word out that there are OpenBSD 4.1 torrents now on the torrent site: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=4.1 So far they are mostly just the files off of the CDs, but as I get synced up, the package torrents will update