Re: [WikimediaMobile] Mobile web team retrospective notes up

2014-03-27 Thread Tomasz Finc
How has this been working out? Eager to know if its helping. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: During the retrospective the team decided to trial a more extreme approach to code review where we stop people from submitting new code whilst there is

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Tomasz Finc
Max, what's your thought on this? On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Recently we upped the radius for searches on Wikivoyage to 20km. This still isn't probably enough for certain towns. Is there anyway we can increase the maximum radius here (what is the

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Apps Feedback Email Addresses

2014-03-27 Thread Liangent
Does this mean mails sent to OTRS before this mail got lost? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: The OTRS queues have been created and the Google Groups removed. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: As an update, I asked

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Max Semenik, 27/03/2014 08:23: Heh, we deployed the config change on the same day:) For reference: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119313/ Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Analytics] Wikipedia App User Agents

2014-03-27 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Including more information on the UA, while being covered by legal under the new privacy policy, really goes agains the wishes of the community as they do not wish to be finger printed. I don't think that the wishes of the community have been established and the whole point of checkuser is

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
Actually my question is about further tweaking this... please reread my email. On 27 Mar 2014 02:02, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Max Semenik, 27/03/2014 08:23: Heh, we deployed the config change on the same day:) For reference: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119313/

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Analytics] Wikipedia App User Agents

2014-03-27 Thread Oliver Keyes
+1. I'm totally down for keeping less information around, but if it gets in the way of people doing their job? Rather than having an ethical debate over it, we could always test the actual usefulness with Science. That way we'd be able to see how much granularity each additional component adds to

Re: [WikimediaMobile] MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox - Build # 434 - Failure!

2014-03-27 Thread Željko Filipin
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: So ideally I would include the tag @watchstar-setup in the 2 watchlist tests. They would then run API requests to ensure the page is watched (or run browser steps - is it possible to do that from in here) I am not sure

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Analytics] Wikipedia App User Agents

2014-03-27 Thread Nuria Ruiz
Rather than having an ethical debate over it, we could always test the actual usefulness with Science. That way we'd be able to see how much granularity each additional component adds to the data. I kind of feel we are going backwards as we throughly discussed this point, technical info and

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Max Semenik
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Actually my question is about further tweaking this... please reread my email. D'oh! So the problem is not in radius but in what to display. https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/784discusses how

Re: [WikimediaMobile] test failures overnight caused by https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62614

2014-03-27 Thread Željko Filipin
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Theoretically for every test run, a new browser profile is used so there should not be issues with cookies (are we sure this is working correctly?). For every test on Sauce Labs they start a clean virtual machine

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [QA] Emails and timeout errors

2014-03-27 Thread Željko Filipin
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Okay thanks Chris - is there a bug we can track this? Maybe this one: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60338 Željko ___ Mobile-l mailing list

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [QA] Emails and timeout errors

2014-03-27 Thread Željko Filipin
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeing lots of tests failing with too many connection resets (due to Net::ReadTimeout - Net::ReadTimeout) after 2 requests on 70020846470700, last used 60.008243583 seconds ago (Net::HTTP::Persistent::Error) I think

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [QA] Emails and timeout errors

2014-03-27 Thread Chris McMahon
I actually am talking to Cloudbees about this right now, but I don't have high hopes for a resolution. -C On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Okay thanks Chris - is there a bug

[WikimediaMobile] QA Tests: Waiting for things to disappear

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
The VE tests are failing due to the longstanding cookie error. The wikitext editor tests are failing on the I should not see the wikitext editor overlay The overlay takes time to disappear and the test doesn't keep this in mind and just sees it and declares it having failed. Should we introduce a

Re: [WikimediaMobile] reviewing the new licensing display in mobile

2014-03-27 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I already discussed the legal issues with Luis. The new implementation should meet all our legal requirements. Kaldari On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Kaldari, do you need legal review for messaging at all? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:09 PM,

Re: [WikimediaMobile] QA tests: Main Page vs. Main_Page

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
Sure but Željko says then I write a test, the first check that I usually write is that the browser is at the correct page - this sounds like he is suggesting this is not cruft I am wondering what is the value in having this check? We have a step saying 'I am on Foo bar page' which we assume

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
I'm not sure we'd want to bring in secondary points - I can imagine the real use of Special:Nearby on Wikivoyage is for travellers who are looking for places to go to next that are nearby e.g. by train/bus. Somewhere like London would report Cambridge, Stonehenge or Oxford as being nearby even

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Max Semenik
I imagine that if someone's in London they're much more likely to be interested in finding a place to see or to eat at rather than to find a next city for their trip. Unless all their touristic goals consist of putting check marks near city names in a looong list:) On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:47

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
I'm saying there is use cases for both. I would expect a site wide nearby feature to help me discover new places nearby that I should visit (Wikivoyage even has a 'Go next' section which does this) When I'm in a place, on the page itself I would like to be able to see map that helps me explore

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Mobile and CheckUser (Was [mobile-l][Analytics] Wikipedia App User Agents)

2014-03-27 Thread James Alexander
Speaking in my capacity as both a long term volunteer checkuser (though not currently because of my work requirements) a very active work related owner/user of checkuser in the LCA team [probably the most active within staff], and a strong advocate for saving as little info as possible I think

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Analytics] Mobile and CheckUser (Was [mobile-l] Wikipedia App User Agents)

2014-03-27 Thread Dan Garry
Note: I speak in this thread as a volunteer checkuser, not as the product manager for platform. Not sending from my volunteer email address because I don't want to subscribe to this list on two separate email addresses. :-) The originally proposed spec (user agent to include device type and app

Re: [WikimediaMobile] QA Tests: Waiting for things to disappear

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
Chris seems to have answered this in this patch - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121543 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: The VE tests are failing due to the longstanding cookie error. The wikitext editor tests are failing on the I should not see the

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Tomasz Finc
So are their any technical limitations to experiment with both right now? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm saying there is use cases for both. I would expect a site wide nearby feature to help me discover new places nearby that I should visit

[WikimediaMobile] Auditing beta and alpha features in mobile

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
As Kenan pointed out during the last estimation meeting we have not been keeping https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Release_history up to date. How can we ensure we do a better job of this? Should someone be responsible for it? ___ Mobile-l mailing

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Auditing beta and alpha features in mobile

2014-03-27 Thread Arthur Richards
Kenan and I actually chatted a bit about this earlier today. Kenan's going to take a first pass on the doc and we can review it as a team during our quarterly planning session. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: As Kenan pointed out during the last

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia Android app Alpha 2014-03-26 out!

2014-03-27 Thread Tomasz Finc
Installed on a Galaxy S3 and while i can search each link that i tap shows 'Could not reach network' on both wifi and mobile data. --tomasz On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I'm going to start sending out notifications whenever an Android app alpha

[WikimediaMobile] Experiences with the pre-review hook

2014-03-27 Thread Jon Robson
We introduced a pre-review hook in mobile that makes it hard for you to submit new code when there is existing code to review (check out [1] if you are interested) The problem I find is it tells _me_ to do code review, but all the patches belong to me so I can't review them. I can poke people and

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Max Semenik
They will be gone with Solr (or its schema, ro be precise). On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: So are their any technical limitations to experiment with both right now? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm saying