Re: VMware Training

2014-02-21 Thread Phil Gardner
On 02/19/2014 01:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering if anyone has some basic

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-21 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Phil Gardner phil.gardne...@gmail.comwrote: On 02/19/2014 01:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. I looked at

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Dave Bell
It means your VMs can run on any host and access the files it requires. If this was not the case then you could not tolerate a hardware failure and expect your VMs to survive. It also means you can do things like evacuate a host and take it down for maintenance. Of course you could build your

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net If you want block storage, just export an iSCSI device to the ESXi machines (tgtadm on RedHat is all you need and a few gigs of free space). VMFS

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - My understanding of cluster-aware filesystem was can be mounted at the physical block level by multiple operating

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - My understanding of cluster-aware

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Why bother with a clustering FS, then, if you cannot actually /use it/ as one? It is used as one.It is also a lot more convenient to have a shared filesystem, than a distributed volume manager. You could think of VMDK

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Dan Shoop
[See below] On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Why bother with a clustering FS, then, if you cannot actually /use it/ as one? - jra On February 19, 2014 10:44:22 PM EST, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Dan Shoop
On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: The locking restrictions are for your own protection. If the filesystem inside your virtual disks is not a clustered filesystem; two instances of a VM simultaneously mounting the same NTFS volume and writing some things, is

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Dan Shoop sh...@iwiring.net wrote: On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: The locking restrictions are for your own protection. If the filesystem inside your virtual disks is not a clustered filesystem; two instances of a VM

VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Gardner
Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering if anyone has some basic suggestions or experiences. I'm a Linux

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Phil Gardner phil.gardne...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Matt Chung
Hey Phil, I recently did the VCP certification/course through VMWare however I was working with the technology over the past 5 years. Based off your desire to gain experience with it, my recommendation is to load up VMware Workstation on your computer and deploy ESXi instances as the guests. This

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net If you want block storage, just export an iSCSI device to the ESXi machines (tgtadm on RedHat is all you need and a few gigs of free space). VMFS is cluster aware so you can export the same volume to independent ESXi hosts

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Phil Gardner phil.gardne...@gmail.comwrote: Seeing you are a Linux admin;VMware's prof. training offerings are basic point and click things, not very Linux-admin friendly; no advanced subjects or even CLI usage in Install, Configure, Manage. If you are

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net [snip] My understanding of cluster-aware filesystem was can be mounted at the physical block level by multiple operating system instances with

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Ashworth
Why bother with a clustering FS, then, if you cannot actually /use it/ as one? - jra On February 19, 2014 10:44:22 PM EST, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu