Heartbleed operational details

2014-04-12 Thread Larry Sheldon
FWIIW http://xkcd.com/1354/ -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their

Re: DNSSEC?

2014-04-12 Thread Mark Andrews
Don't think for one second that using malloc directly would have saved OpenSSL here. By default malloc does not zero freed memory it returns. It is a feature that needs to be enabled. If OpenSSL wanted to zero memory it was returning could have done that itself. The only difference is that

RE: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]

2014-04-12 Thread Warren Bailey
I'd be interested in the other 0 days they have..;) Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com Date: 04/11/2014 11:24 PM (GMT-07:00) To: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu,Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE:

Re: DNSSEC?

2014-04-12 Thread shawn wilson
But it doesn't really matter if you zero out freed memory. Maybe it'll prevent you from gaining some stale session info and the like. But even if that were the case, this would still be a serious bug - you're not going to reread your private key before encrypting each bit of data after all -

responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Hi Folks, It occurs to me that Yahoo's deployment of DMARC p=reject, and the choice of several big mail operators to honor that, has created a situation not unlike a really routing table or nameserver, snafu --- someone's published information that's caused lots of things to break. At an

Re: DNSSEC?

2014-04-12 Thread Michael Thomas
On 04/11/2014 10:45 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: The vulnerability is related to re-used memory pages within the same process. It also does not help that OpenSSL has its own wrapper around malloc() And instead of using the standard system libraries for memory allocation, apparently uses a high-risk

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: What kind of responses are available? In the broader scope of things, what kinds of responses are typical if someone publishes corrupted information and then doesn't cooperate in fixing the situation - be that

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:12:09 -0400, Miles Fidelman said: It occurs to me that Yahoo's deployment of DMARC p=reject, and the choice of several big mail operators to honor that, has created a situation not unlike a really routing table or nameserver, snafu --- It's more like a peering war.

Re: DNSSEC?

2014-04-12 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: Malloc doesn't write over to-be allocated memory, calloc does. Using a Zero'ing newly allocated memory is not the desired behavior. The desired behavior is that a segmentation fault occurs, when an application breaks the

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: What kind of responses are available? In the broader scope of things, what kinds of responses are typical if someone publishes corrupted information and then doesn't cooperate in fixing the

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:12:09 -0400, Miles Fidelman said: It occurs to me that Yahoo's deployment of DMARC p=reject, and the choice of several big mail operators to honor that, has created a situation not unlike a really routing table or nameserver, snafu ---

Re: [IP] Summary of what I know so far about the Linksys botnet and/or worm

2014-04-12 Thread George Bakos
Sounds like: https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Linksys+Worm+TheMoon+Summary+What+we+know+so+far/17633 g On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 00:32:55 -0400 Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote: Any comments? -- Forwarded message -- From: Dave Farber d...@farber.net Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014

Re: DNSSEC?

2014-04-12 Thread Michael Thomas
On 04/12/2014 10:10 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: Malloc doesn't write over to-be allocated memory, calloc does. Using a Zero'ing newly allocated memory is not the desired behavior. The desired behavior is that a segmentation fault

Kit to split a 19 closet?

2014-04-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
Suppose you have an existing server closet. You want to split it so that two different organizations can have access to it. Separate doors and a divider in the middle. Does anyone make kit for this for hosting centers? Thanks, Hank

Re: Kit to split a 19 closet?

2014-04-12 Thread Doug Barton
Please don't reply to a message on the list and change the subject line. Doing so causes your new topic to show under the previous one for those using mail readers that thread properly, and may cause your message to be missed altogether if someone has blocked that thread. Instead, save the

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:12:09 -0400, Miles Fidelman said: It occurs to me that Yahoo's deployment of DMARC p=reject, and the choice of several big mail operators to honor that, has

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Dave Crocker
On 4/12/2014 2:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: someone needs to get a legal opinion wrt the DMARC group's effort to have all mailinglists change their From: address. The DMARC group (presumably referring to the

Re: Heartbleed Bug Found in Cisco Routers, Juniper Gear

2014-04-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On 04/11/2014 07:16 AM, Glen Kent wrote: VPN, on the other hand, is a totally different world of pain for this issue. What about VPNs? SSL VPN's could possibly be vulnerable.

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: On 4/12/2014 2:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: someone needs to get a legal opinion wrt the DMARC group's effort to have all mailinglists

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Dave Crocker wrote: On 4/12/2014 2:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: someone needs to get a legal opinion wrt the DMARC group's effort to have all mailinglists change their From: address. The DMARC group

Re: Kit to split a 19 closet?

2014-04-12 Thread Eric A Louie
Divided into vertical sections, it requires a new set of hinges and doors and lock slots front and rear, as well as solid shelves between the sections.  Think about it for a moment, or go visit your nearest colocation center and ask to see a 1/2 or 1/3 rack.  I actually have a 1/3 rack at one

Re: Heartbleed Bug Found in Cisco Routers, Juniper Gear

2014-04-12 Thread Harry Hoffman
Didn't Cisco already release a bunch of updates related to Anyconnect and heartbleed? Cheers, Harry On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 04/11/2014 07:16 AM, Glen Kent wrote: VPN, on the other hand, is a totally different world of pain for this issue. What

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: - Yahoo (operationally) and the DMARC authors are intentionally un-responsive (as are hotmail, comcast, a few others; gmail, I note is not bouncing mail) How do we respond as operators, beyond late-night, ad-hoc

Re: Heartbleed Bug Found in Cisco Routers, Juniper Gear

2014-04-12 Thread Jeff Kell
On 4/12/2014 8:55 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote: Didn't Cisco already release a bunch of updates related to Anyconnect and heartbleed? There were AnyConnect for iOS (little i, not big I) issues with heartbleed, but everything else has been mostly phone and UCS related. IOS XE is affected if you have

spamassassin hole again?

2014-04-12 Thread Randy Bush
massive porn spam is making it through spamassassin. new filter oops? randy, still researching

Re: spamassassin hole again?

2014-04-12 Thread Sabri Berisha
Hi, g I suspect I've been hit by the same run, looks like the RIPE database has been harvested since I got at least one copy on an e-mail address that I've only used for the RIPE db. I also saw a lot of peering@ and noc@ addresses in from/to/cc fields. So far I've received about a hundred

Re: responding to DMARC breakage

2014-04-12 Thread Joly MacFie
Question: Years ago Yahoo! bought major mailing list provider egroups formerly onelist, eventually absorbing it into yahoo clubs and making something called yahoogroups. Does this break yahoogroups too? How are THEY handling it? --

Re: spamassassin hole again?

2014-04-12 Thread Babak Farrokhi
We are not using spamasassin and only major RBLs in place and seeing the same wave of spam. Seems like a new botnot has just appeared. -- Babak -- Babak Farrokhi On Apr 13, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: massive porn spam is making it through spamassassin. new filter