On Sat 29 Aug 2015 at 22:37:22 +0200, Havard Eidnes wrote:
For those among us who rather fiercly wish to stick to the idea
that the rubout key commonly found in the upper right area of
the keyboard sends DEL, and who has many more machines than
actively used desktops for logging in to those
j...@ziaspace.com (John Klos) writes:
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I often ssh
from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color) and nothing has changed on that end
for ages. However, now on any NetBSD-7.0_RC2 system, the shell shows ^?
whenever a backspace is entered and
g...@ir.bbn.com (Greg Troxel) writes:
The fact that this tset change is provoking complaints is a testament to
how well the propagation of local settings is working.
Only DEL was propagated in 4.4BSD.
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g...@ir.bbn.com (Greg Troxel) writes:
An alternative would be to remove the kbs attribute from 'remote terminals'
in the terminfo database.
Sorry, I didn't absorb your second note before replying. Either of
those sounds fine, or perhaps both. It's pretty clear that knowing what
a remote
In article b71f1ca5-f252-4aea-b2d1-195afa3b3...@azeotrope.org,
Dave Huang k...@azeotrope.org wrote:
On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:04, Michael van Elst mlel...@serpens.de wrote:
Either sounds OK to me... I've removed the tset from my .login and
things are working well for me now. ssh works fine, and
On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:04, Michael van Elst mlel...@serpens.de wrote:
k...@azeotrope.org (Dave Huang) writes:
for network terminals (pretty much just ssh these
days, but IIRC this is the case for telnet too. Don't know about
rlogin), the client will send the appropriate character to the
k...@azeotrope.org (Dave Huang) writes:
On Aug 22, 2015, at 18:02, Michael van Elst mlel...@serpens.de wrote:
It depends on what keyboard you use, pckbd sends ^?, ukbd sends ^h.
Doesn't that inconsistency cause problems then? E.g., if the terminfo
entry for wsvt25 says that erase is ^H and
mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
FreeBSD removed the tset call from login in 1995, replaced it first
with a fixed 'stty erase ^H' and then dropped it altogether. I am
not sure if that is the best approach, but it surely avoids the
ssh-login problem.
An alternative would be to
g...@ir.bbn.com (Greg Troxel) writes:
when the erase character has been set via sshd, don't mess with it,
because the remote side set it for a reason.
That's where you ask for magic. The erase character is always set
and tset configures it for the terminal also for a reason.
A further
* Pongthep Kulkrisada (ptkris...@gmail.com) wrote:
* Martin Husemann (mar...@duskware.de) wrote:
Please file a PR giving more details (like: what method you use to log
in, what terminal emulator you run, what shell you are using, output
of stty -a, your TERM environment settings, )
* Dave Huang (k...@azeotrope.org) wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:51:24PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
stty erase ^? doesn't work.
Hmm, it works for me. What does stty -a show after you do stty
erase ^? ?
Oops! sorry for my bad. I was doing something else. TGIF
stty erase ^? works
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:11:08AM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
* Pongthep Kulkrisada (ptkris...@gmail.com) wrote:
* John Klos (j...@ziaspace.com) wrote:
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I often ssh
from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color) and nothing has
On Aug 22, 2015, at 18:02, Michael van Elst mlel...@serpens.de wrote:
k...@azeotrope.org (Dave Huang) writes:
Also, it seems that
wscons on NetBSD/i386 sends ^? for Backspace.
It depends on what keyboard you use, pckbd sends ^?, ukbd sends ^h.
Doesn't that inconsistency cause problems
* Martin Husemann (mar...@duskware.de) wrote:
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 08:43:57PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
If you were more careful and followed this thread,
you would find that send-pr was done from me since 7.0_RC2.
Which PR is it?
I am relatively new to this list. (subscribed
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 10:55:02PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
I am relatively new to this list. (subscribed last month)
Once I did send-pr, after that I have no idea how to find it.
But I certainly sent on 3-Aug-2015.
You shuold get a reply back from gnats (usually within a few minutes,
* Martin Husemann (mar...@duskware.de) wrote:
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 10:55:02PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
I am relatively new to this list. (subscribed last month)
Once I did send-pr, after that I have no idea how to find it.
But I certainly sent on 3-Aug-2015.
You shuold get a
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 08:43:57PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
If you were more careful and followed this thread,
you would find that send-pr was done from me since 7.0_RC2.
Which PR is it?
Martin
On 2015-08-20 22:00, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 09:40:49PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
[...]
Yes, stty erase ^? works, but it shouldn't be necessary.
I'm actually surprised, since most people nowadays seems to actually want
erase to be bound to BS, and I have found
* Johnny Billquist (b...@update.uu.se) wrote:
Either change your Mac to send a BS character, or configure your NetBSD
system to do an erase when receiving a DEL.
(stty erase ^?)
stty erase ^? doesn't work.
The only thing that works is adding these lines to /etc/rc.conf.
% grep wsconsctl
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:51:24PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
stty erase ^? doesn't work.
Hmm, it works for me. What does stty -a show after you do stty
erase ^? ?
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* Pongthep Kulkrisada (ptkris...@gmail.com) wrote:
* John Klos (j...@ziaspace.com) wrote:
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I often ssh
from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color) and nothing has changed on that end
for ages. However, now on any NetBSD-7.0_RC2 system,
On Aug 20, 2015, at 14:25, Dave Huang k...@azeotrope.org wrote:
The question is what changed between previous versions of NetBSD and 7.0 that
caused the erase character to no longer be set to ^? when ssh-ing. IIRC,
during the setup of an SSH connection, the client sends the server the
On 2015-08-20 21:25, Dave Huang wrote:
On 8/20/2015 13:15, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-08-20 19:11, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
* Pongthep Kulkrisada (ptkris...@gmail.com) wrote:
* John Klos (j...@ziaspace.com) wrote:
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I
often
On 8/20/2015 13:15, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-08-20 19:11, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
* Pongthep Kulkrisada (ptkris...@gmail.com) wrote:
* John Klos (j...@ziaspace.com) wrote:
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I
often ssh
from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color)
On 8/20/2015 13:15, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I should probably point out that if the system is echoing ^? when you
press they key marked delete, or X], or -, or whatever, then
your problem is not in NetBSD, but on your Mac.
BTW, I should note that it's not just a Mac issue... the PuTTY ssh
* Martin Husemann (mar...@duskware.de) wrote:
Please file a PR giving more details (like: what method you use to log
in, what terminal emulator you run, what shell you are using, output
of stty -a, your TERM environment settings, )
send-pr with details done.
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Pongthep Kulkrisada
* John Klos (j...@ziaspace.com) wrote:
Hi,
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I often ssh
from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color) and nothing has changed on that end
for ages. However, now on any NetBSD-7.0_RC2 system, the shell shows ^?
whenever a backspace is
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:40:35AM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
I also encountered the same problem. I have also tried...
stty erase ^H
bindkey \177 delete-char
Nothing seems to work, this time I have to go back to 6.1_STABLE.
Please file a PR giving more details (like: what method
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:54:00AM +, John Klos wrote:
Hi,
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap.
Probably this change:
usr.bin/tset/set.c 1.18
Restore logic for setting the VERASE character.
- use terminfo _unless_ the
Hi,
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I often ssh
from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color) and nothing has changed on that end
for ages. However, now on any NetBSD-7.0_RC2 system, the shell shows ^?
whenever a backspace is entered and the terminal is not interactive.
John Klos j...@ziaspace.com writes:
Sometime between RC1 and RC2, something happened to termcap. I often
ssh from a Mac (TERM is xterm-256color) and nothing has changed on
that end for ages. However, now on any NetBSD-7.0_RC2 system, the
shell shows ^? whenever a backspace is entered and the
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