Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-15 Thread Dan LaBine
Dear Mike and Tracy; I recommend "Halls" to get rid of that delicate cough! It sounds like it's spreading to others in the forum. Dan - Original Message - From: "Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 2:31 AM

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* - some constructive suggestions

2000-08-15 Thread Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root
Hi guys. I must admit that I am sending much of my e-mail from root. You are correct in that this is generally a Bad Thing. However, I am making so many changes to my system at the moment, many of which have to be done as root, that it is impractical to keep changing. Once I have got this

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-15 Thread Mike Tracy Holt
Me thinks you need to find the root of the message... I simply added a comment. cheers, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dan LaBine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* Dear Mike and Tracy; I

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-14 Thread poogle
Couldn't find the message that you refer to, all I could find was this (extract) from the lists page http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 Support Lists These lists can be used for free support: The

RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-14 Thread David Hulme
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 August 2000 10:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* Couldn't find the message that you refer to, all I could find was this (extract) from the lists page http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 Sup

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* - some constructive suggestions

2000-08-14 Thread L. H. LOO
Yes, that is a good idea. Thank you.

Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*]

2000-08-13 Thread Dan LaBine
There was??? Must've been a U.S. thing! M$ never told us about 'em. You're not thinking about upgrade version, R Ya? - Original Message - From: "Jaguar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate coug

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-13 Thread poogle
Aren't we all forgetting a couple of important issues here ? 1) What is the name of this group ? 2) Who hosts it ? It is my impression that Mandrake provided this platform for Mandrake newbies to get and give assistance with problems that they might have, I feel that prolonged off-topic threads

Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*]]

2000-08-13 Thread Jaguar
not thinking about upgrade version, R Ya? - Original Message - From: "Jaguar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*] Dan LaBine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan LaBine Okay,

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-13 Thread Mike Tracy Holt
I believe if you go back to the 'newbie archive' from the mandrake home page, you'll find a message in this thread that talks about newbies and the importance of talking about every aspect of computing and how it compares to the Linux- Mandrake model (not quite in those words). It's not

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-13 Thread John Gist
I'm quite sure Mandrake dosen't mind all the Windows bashing one bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't we all forgetting a couple of important issues here ? 1) What is the name of this group ? 2) Who hosts it ? It is my impression that Mandrake provided this platform for Mandrake newbies

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Kathleen Dickason
We have one Novell server at work, one NT server, and one Linux server, and we're getting a second Liunx server. (yay!) But everyone's workstation currently has to run Windows, though I am hinting broadly about how grand a Linux workstation or two might be. ;) Mark Weaver wrote: we don't

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Mark Weaver
Wow Kathleen...sounds like you all are going to get there before we do. There's a project in the works right now that will be using a Linux Mandrake machine as a database warehouse and server, but other than that I don't see the management allowing a workstation change-over anytime in the near,

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Darren Hall
something to offer. Let us try to not be so racist. That is my only point. - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: It wo

RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Mike Tracy Holt
Nickolas Koehne wrote: You're right. All windows OS's before 95 and NT were just GUI's for MS-DOS. The easiest way for this to make sense to most people is that you had to install MS-DOS before you could actually install Windows. On newer versions of Windows, you need not install DOS

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Mark Weaver
OTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: It would be better if you actually researched something before you went spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yoursel

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
th any of this.. bye -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: It w

Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*]

2000-08-12 Thread Jaguar
oming back for more! Anyway, that's my four cents! By the way, whats all this about a "delicate cough"? Did I miss something?? - Original Message - From: "Darren Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [newb

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Mark Weaver
Dan LaBine wrote: From: Dan LaBine Okay, Okay, Now Kiss and Make Up ! The Pissing contest ends here and now ! The problem here is that you're all right to some extent, and that's causing all the disagreement. Point #1 ) Darren,..You're right about this forum being for Linux help news,

RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Kathleen Dickason
When I had to re-install Win98 recently (don't ask! heh), the installer checked to see whether the partition had DOS formatting or VFAT or whatever... Now I'm confused! Kathleen, with way too many OSes You do need to configure the partition on which you're going to install Windows as a DOS

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Larry Marshall
So says you. No public list, news or mail, is a forum (or should be) for personal attacks, nor will ever be devoid of semi-related topics. You're right Tom, no conference is devoid of off-topic msgs. But when you start defending people's rights to post them the road to chaos is a short

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Kathleen Dickason
Mark Weaver wrote: Dan LaBine wrote: By the way, whats all this about a "delicate cough"? Did I miss something?? The delicate cough thing started a while back. it was the beginning of this thread, although not the original subject. That was me, stomping my widdle feet in the subject

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sat, 12 Aug 2000, you wrote: So says you. No public list, news or mail, is a forum (or should be) for personal attacks, nor will ever be devoid of semi-related topics. You're right Tom, no conference is devoid of off-topic msgs. But when you start defending people's rights to

Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*]

2000-08-12 Thread Mark Weaver
TED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* Yes i agree. But, 1. this is for linux news not personal views on Windows. 2. The claims (which are obviously biased) that Win9x is not on operating system is just rediculous.

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-12 Thread Larry Marshall
It was not my intention to become part of this silly "is it an operating system thread" but since you've demonstrated yourself as being one of the reasonable, and knowledgable folks here I'll comment further. i don't agree. I believe most linux users, new or not so new, still dual boot, i

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Darren Hall
11, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* somebody said: "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: somebody said: "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long filenames) and a new io.sys.

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Adrian Smith
really? which part is wrong? oh, my feelings Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Renaud OLGIATI
ugh, and I can see no glaring errors in it. But I'd like to learn more... Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [new

RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread webmaster
0 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* It would be better if you actually researched something before you went spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yourself look completely incompetant. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith&qu

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Darren Hall
You can just press the esc key to watch it boot as well. BTW, how do you run 32 bit applications in DOS? - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* On Fri, 1

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Adrian Smith
Tom, actually, i'm totally wrong as someone on the list pointed out to me. i made myself look like an idiot =) but i'm touched that he (she? i didn't pay attention) cares about me. =) my only reason for suspecting that more happened between win95 and win98 is things such as my experience

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Carjam
. - Original Message - From: Adrian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* somebody said: "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opper

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Tom Brinkman
t 11, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* somebody said: "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes

RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Adrian Smith
i have never used WinNT, tho i almost installed it when i went to Linux - then decided not to due to lack of drive space for 3 operating systems. when i get a larger drive for my OSs i want to do a Win98/Linux/WinNT system so i can learn NT, but as you allude to, i was under the impression

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Adrian Smith
"Carjam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:11:49 AM 8/11/00 IE sends back information to microsoft? I knew it can be made to do that by microsoft, but I dont think it does it every time. adrian replys: i dont' know the specifics actually. the story as i read it is this. when Win95 first came out, one of

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Kathleen Dickason
Hey Kathleen, Hi Roman Also, Outlook sux. :P I have to use it at work. Why do you have to use it at work ? Can't you download another email client ? Roman We have to use it becuse our small company wants everyone using the same software, and there is a temporary moratorium on internet

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Kathleen Dickason
Its okay Kathleen! I've still got my old vintage 1987 Atari Mega ST with 4 megs of Ram and Motorola 68000 CPU running @ 16mhz. grin Go you! :) (4 whole megs! hee! for the time that rocked) :) As for the Amiga, I owned several in my younger days, they were simply great machines for their

RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-11 Thread Kathleen Dickason
get a new hard drive! that's what i did! *grin* master 10 gig drive - win 98 linux mandrake 7.1 slave 13.6 gig drive - BeOS freeBSD whoknowswhat next ;) i have never used WinNT, tho i almost installed it when i went to Linux - then decided not to due to lack of drive space for 3

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-10 Thread Roman Korcek
Hey Kathleen, Also, Outlook sux. :P I have to use it at work. Why do you have to use it at work ? Can't you download another email client ? Roman

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Kathleen Dickason wrote: snip The post you replied to was one mainly reminiscing about Tandy (I had a WP2!), Atari, and Amiga. *nostalgic sigh* Not mainly M$ bashing. Sorry, nice list peoples. I wanted to get that off my chest. I shall go sit down and be quiet again now. *sheepish

Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*

2000-08-10 Thread Carjam
Just a few points to make: Microsoft did make computers easy to use. They made the first endureing GUI os. Windows is easy to use, no question about that. The problem is that makeing it easy to use also made it unreliable and insecure. Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are