On Friday 12 November 2004 02:18 pm, Jack wrote:
What questions did you ask, and where?
There were a few... most recently, I filled out the FTP request form for
the 10.1 official ISO's. I filled this form out *twice* as nothing
happened. I then sent email to them asking what had happened
On Friday 12 November 2004 02:18 pm, Jack wrote:
What questions did you ask, and where?
There were a few... most recently, I filled out the FTP request form for
the 10.1 official ISO's. I filled this form out *twice* as nothing
happened. I then sent email to them asking what had happened
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:31:14 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:
And why are .com files even supported anyway? Those things are holdovers
from CP/M, for god's sake.
Actually, I've used them more than a few times just in the recent past...to
clean infected Windows PC's! :-D
There's
On Sunday 21 November 2004 12:31 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:42:19 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually windows will not be secure as long as .exe .com and .dll
files can automatically run
as root, despite microsoft trying to patent the sudo technology,
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:42:19 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually windows will not be secure as long as .exe .com and .dll
files can automatically run
as root, despite microsoft trying to patent the sudo technology, yet
disabling such a feature in XP.
Thanks for letting me
On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 03:04, Jack wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 13 November 2004 07:31 pm, Jack wrote:
It apparently has a way to allow changing the default browser *that
works*! Changing the htm file association in 3.23 does not work...
That's the main reason, but there are other
Six months ago I've purchased a 5550 (pretty
expensive) and the drivers on Windows still have
problems with the color tones.
On MDK worked much better... despite of HP
*sponsoring*. ;-)
--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 13:32, Greg Meyer wrote:
Ever try
to
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 23:45, Dennis Myers wrote:
On the other hand, a friend of mine at work was complaining about their
home comp not giving access to the internet but the worm/virus that
infected it would connect whenever it wanted. So I hand her a disk with
MandrakeMove on it and tell her
On Saturday 13 Nov 2004 07:09, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
He's right!
But don't expect that Linux or any Linux distro was
meant for your needs and blame it if it doesn't have
all the features you need. Linux covers -let say - 98%
of users needs in general, but if you were unlucky to
be in the 2%
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:55:46 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Joe, you really need to read more carefully. I'll let you look at my
initial post (at the top) again so you can figure it out for yourself...
LOL! Okay, I shouldn't o' had that
Hello Jack,
Friday, November 12, 2004, 8:07:40 PM, Jack wrote:
J Funny you should mention this... a few years back, I had a small
J problem with Win98. I was still within the support period so I
J called their tech support. Before you knew it, the fella wanted me
J to re-install Windows.
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Friday 12 November 2004 11:10 pm, Jack wrote:
Good point Greg but I dislike "upgrading." I always prefer to do a
clean install. My experience has been (up to now) that there are less
problems this way.
I tend to agree,
Jack wrote:
Attempting to solve another problem that I reported in this thread
(upgrading to KDE 3.3), I retried Randall's suggestion with Konquest
and still got the C compiler error. I also tried the "urpmi.update -a
-f --wget urpmi --wget --auto --auto-select
--no-verify-rpm" that
On Saturday 13 November 2004 05:17 pm, Jack wrote:
Jack wrote:
Attempting to solve another problem that I reported in this thread
(upgrading to KDE 3.3), I retried Randall's suggestion with Konquest
and still got the C compiler error. I also tried the urpmi.update -a
-f --wget urpmi
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 13 November 2004 05:17 pm, Jack wrote:
Jack wrote:
Attempting to solve another problem that I reported in this thread
(upgrading to KDE 3.3), I retried Randall's suggestion with Konquest
and still got the C compiler error. I also
On Saturday 13 November 2004 07:31 pm, Jack wrote:
It apparently has a way to allow changing the default browser *that
works*! Changing the htm file association in 3.23 does not work...
That's the main reason, but there are other minor ones...
Changing the file association only works to
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 13 November 2004 07:31 pm, Jack wrote:
It apparently has a way to allow changing the default browser *that
works*! Changing the htm file association in 3.23 does not work...
That's the main reason, but there are other minor ones...
On Thursday 11 Nov 2004 22:54, Jack wrote:
1 - It never did see my Canon D760 copier/printer.
Canon gear is always hard, as they will not cooperate in releasing api
details. However, it is sometimes possible to get things to work. Did you
ask any specific questions about this?
2 -
Wow, $170 paid for endless thousands of dollars of equivalent software,
friendly support (evidence below) and admission into what in any other
conceivable discipline would be a select group of longtimers who would
not have the slightest thing to do with you. You offer them $170 bucks
(I say
On Friday 12 November 2004 06:33, David Cormier wrote:
There is a difference. Performance in some ways yes. Software all over
the place. But at the end of the day, people like Anne (whom I've never
even read before) are the reason I'm going to stick it out.
I usually respond to these types of
On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:54 pm, Jack wrote:
But unfortunately, I still don't think it's ready for primetime and
here's why:
1 - It never did see my Canon D760 copier/printer.
Canon issues closed source windows only drivers and doesn't cooperate with
Linux driver developers. Why is
On Friday 12 November 2004 15:23, Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Friday 12 November 2004 06:33, David Cormier wrote:
There is a difference. Performance in some ways yes. Software all over
the place. But at the end of the day, people like Anne (whom I've never
even read before) are the reason I'm
snip
Bryan Phinney wrote:
snip
So, when I see someone complain about Linux not being ready for primetime
because it doesn't include something like voice recognition (nice but most
people wouldn't classify that as a major necessity), and remember how WinXP
got compromised within six months even
snip
5 - Most damning of all was my attempted upgrade to 10.1 official. I
completely wiped my drive to do a clean install, and after everything
was said and done, the official version could not find the internet, nor
my onboard (Asus P4P800) sound card.
10.0 had no trouble finding these 2, nor
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:23:19 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Don't hold back, Joe... Say what you feel!!! :-) Seriously though,
you are right that perhaps I'm attributing to Linux what only exists in
the Windows world. As a sidenote, I am quite diligent in Windows ---
Ad Aware,
--- David Cormier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, $170 paid for endless thousands of dollars of
equivalent software,
friendly support (evidence below) and admission into
what in any other
conceivable discipline would be a select group of
longtimers who would
not have the slightest
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're always here
to
help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as useful as tits on a bull
around here of late...).
I know what you mean, I'm still on 9.1 cause I don't
On Thursday 11 November 2004 4:54 pm, Jack wrote:
Okay, I've spent a couple of months playing with Mandrake Linux (10.1
community) and here are my (unsolicited) impressions:
1 - I like the interface a lot. It is very customizable and, well...
downright fun!!!
2 - It appears to be rock
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:53:56 -0600
Randall D. Hobbs disseminated the following:
This isn't a remark to Jack - this is mostly to those who don't agree with
what he said... Remember when you guys were new to Linux? I'm sure about 90%
of you thought the same way. I know I did.
I came into the
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 13:32, Greg Meyer wrote:
Ever try
to install Windows from scratch, track down drivers and get them installed
without a network connection, then try to configure a wireless conection so
that it co-exists nicely with more than one access point, and then try to
apply the
On Friday 12 November 2004 09:23 am, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're always
here to help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as useful as
tits on a bull around here of
On Friday 12 November 2004 16:41, Greg Meyer wrote:
I know what you mean, I'm still on 9.1 cause I don't want to mess with
upgrading on account of server stuff. Who on the list would win the
prize for running the oldest version of MDK?
I've got a two 9.0 boxes running samba and a
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 07:23, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're always
here to
help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as useful as tits on a bull
around here of late...).
Travis Crook wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 07:23, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're always here to
help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as useful as tits on a bull
around here of
On Friday 12 November 2004 00:01, et wrote:
On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:54, Jack wrote:
4 - I use voice recognition extensively (Dragon NS and IBM ViaVoice). I
don't believe this even exists for Linux.
viavoice was included in the powerpack for version 7.2 and 8.0, and worked
much
Just a quick note from a fairly fresh out of windows newbie (well,
about 6 months).
The reason why I think Mandrake is ready for prime time?
I'm currently running a cooker install. My friend serving as my
primary tech support walked me through setting up such, and didn't
explain it to me. I
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 11 Nov 2004 22:54, Jack wrote:
Canon gear is always hard, as they will not cooperate in releasing api
details. However, it is sometimes possible to get things to work. Did you
ask any specific questions about this?
Yes, I did, to no avail. The
David Cormier wrote:
Wow, $170 paid for endless thousands of dollars of equivalent
software, friendly support (evidence below) and admission into what in
any other conceivable discipline would be a select group of longtimers
who would not have the slightest thing to do with you. You offer them
Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Friday 12 November 2004 06:33, David Cormier wrote:
There is a difference. Performance in some ways yes. Software all over
the place. But at the end of the day, people like Anne (whom I've never
even read before) are the reason I'm going to stick it out.
6 - I spent the $170 or so bucks to become a silver club member, but not
once have I received an answer from Mandrake when I found myself stuck.
I was also forced to install Bit Torrent to download the new ISO's after
have waited for over 2 weeks (in vain) after my request for FTP access.
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:54 pm, Jack wrote:
3 - Couldn't upgrade to KDE 3.3, despite having the CD for it and
despite help from experts like Randall. I spent *weeks* on this.
Nothing I tried worked, nor did any suggestions work.
This is a big
Lanman wrote:
snip
5 - Most damning of all was my attempted upgrade to 10.1 official. I
completely wiped my drive to do a clean install, and after everything
was said and done, the official version could not find the internet,
nor
my onboard (Asus P4P800) sound card.
10.0 had no trouble finding
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:28:16 -0500
Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The computer software culture is not comparable to that of pro
sports. A culture creates expectations based on
generally-accepted values. Expecting support when you have put
out money is part of the computer software culture.
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:35:47 -0500
Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
or is more secure
because it is being largely ignored by the malicious hacker
community?
Should have googled this one, Jack. Brace yourself.
Lee
Want to buy your Pack
On Friday 12 November 2004 23:35, Jack wrote:
Bryan Phinney wrote:
.)
With WinXP, I still can't be sure the user actually intalled or opened
anything, there are simply too many security holes that could account for
the trojans being there.
Bryan, good post and some valid observations. If
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:23:19 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Don't hold back, Joe... Say what you feel!!! :-) Seriously though,
you are right that perhaps I'm attributing to Linux what only exists in
the Windows world. As a sidenote, I am quite
Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
This isn't a remark to Jack - this is mostly to those who don't agree with
what he said... Remember when you guys were new to Linux? I'm sure about 90%
of you thought the same way. I know I did. There is a substantial learning
curve to Linux - you cannot go to a software
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 17:00, Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:35:47 -0500
Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
or is more secure
because it is being largely ignored by the malicious hacker
community?
Should have googled this one, Jack. Brace yourself.
Yet it has to be said that
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 21:18, Jack wrote:
Canon gear is always hard, as they will not cooperate in releasing api
details. However, it is sometimes possible to get things to work. Did
you ask any specific questions about this?
Yes, I did, to no avail. The printer works off of a USB port.
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:28:16 -0500
Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The computer software "culture" is not comparable to that of pro
sports. A culture creates expectations based on
generally-accepted values. Expecting support when you have put
out money is part
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 21:50, Jack wrote:
I *am* having fun with Linux (as I already stated in my original post).
And I do not expect (nor want) it to be Windows. But when an expert
gives you specific directions on how to do something, and it has worked
for him, it *should work for me*
On Friday 12 November 2004 01:56 pm, Jack wrote:
Actually, XP could learn from Linux to *force* users (insteading of just
recommending) that users use a limited account to do their day-to-day
computing. This would close a lot of the security holes.
Actually windows will not be secure as long
Travis Crook wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 07:23, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're always here to
help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as useful as tits on a bull
around
On Friday 12 November 2004 16:35, Jack wrote:
So, when I see someone complain about Linux not being ready for primetime
because it doesn't include something like voice recognition (nice but most
people wouldn't classify that as a major necessity),
Bryan, voice recognition saves me *hours and
On Friday 12 November 2004 16:35, Jack wrote:
So, when I see someone complain about Linux not being ready for primetime
because it doesn't include something like voice recognition (nice but most
people wouldn't classify that as a major necessity),
Bryan, voice recognition saves me *hours and
On Friday 12 November 2004 04:26 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 21:50, Jack wrote:
I *am* having fun with Linux (as I already stated in my original post).
And I do not expect (nor want) it to be Windows. But when an expert
gives you specific directions on how to do something,
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:45:36 -0500
Ryan Steffes disseminated the following:
trade union groups
Excellent explanatory post, very good description of Bittorrent. However, I
don't know if would quite characterize the RIAA and MPAA as 'trade unions',
except perhaps as in the Jimmy Hoffa/Mafia way
On Friday 12 November 2004 08:23 am, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're
always here to help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as
useful as tits on a bull around here of
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:08:53 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
I agree totally Randall. Perhaps I should have stated that it isn't
Linux's fault that Canon doesn't provide a Linux driver for it's
printer. It's a chicken and egg problem. As long as Linux is not
used by the vast
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:28:16 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
And be aware that I have not used equivalent derogatory terms like windoze
or some such when describing Linux
Would there be a reason to do such a thing? As far as 'Windoze' goes, or
'Internet Exploder', or 'Outhouse', these
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:00:17 +
Lee Wiggers disseminated the following:
or is more secure because it is being largely ignored by the malicious
hacker community?
Should have googled this one, Jack. Brace yourself.
ROFL!
Yep:
http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188
--
JoeHill /
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:47:57 -0500, JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:45:36 -0500
Ryan Steffes disseminated the following:
trade union groups
Excellent explanatory post, very good description of Bittorrent. However, I
don't know if would quite characterize the RIAA
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:56:52 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Actually, XP could learn from Linux to *force* users (insteading of just
recommending) that users use a limited account to do their day-to-day
computing. This would close a lot of the security holes.
ROFLMAO! Okay, yer not
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:18:34 -0500
Ryan Steffes disseminated the following:
It was the most polite description I could could force myself to use.
Evil thought police bastards seemed too Linux fanatic to me,
although more accurate.
LOL! Just like the good ol' days, the witty banter's
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 9:50 pm, Jack wrote:
I *am* having fun with Linux (as I already stated in my original
post). And I do not expect (nor want) it to be Windows. But when an
expert gives you specific directions on how to do something, and it
has worked for him, it *should work for me*
On Friday 12 November 2004 03:47 pm, JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:45:36 -0500
Ryan Steffes disseminated the following:
trade union groups
Excellent explanatory post, very good description of Bittorrent. However, I
don't know if would quite characterize the RIAA and MPAA as 'trade
Hello Jack,
Friday, November 12, 2004, 1:50:31 PM, Jack wrote:
J But when an expert gives you specific directions on how to do
J something, and it has worked for him, it *should work for me*
J also!
Speaking of experts, a few years back I had a very severe Windows
problem. Lots of
On Friday 12 November 2004 04:50 pm, Jack wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:54 pm, Jack wrote:
5 - Most damning of all was my attempted upgrade to 10.1 official. I
completely wiped my drive to do a clean install, and after everything
was said and done, the official
JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:56:52 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Actually, XP could learn from Linux to *force* users (insteading of just
recommending) that users use a limited account to do their day-to-day
computing. This would close a lot of the security
rikona wrote:
Hello Jack,
Friday, November 12, 2004, 1:50:31 PM, Jack wrote:
J But when an expert gives you specific directions on how to do
J something, and it has worked for him, it *should work for me*
J also!
Speaking of experts, a few years back I had a very severe Windows
problem.
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:55:46 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Joe, you really need to read more carefully. I'll let you look at my
initial post (at the top) again so you can figure it out for yourself...
LOL! Okay, I shouldn't o' had that last hit of acid...
--
JoeHill / RLU #282046
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Friday 12 November 2004 04:50 pm, Jack wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:54 pm, Jack wrote:
5 - Most damning of all was my attempted upgrade to 10.1 official. I
completely wiped my drive to do a
JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:55:46 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Joe, you really need to read more carefully. I'll let you look at my
initial post (at the top) again so you can figure it out for yourself...
LOL! Okay, I shouldn't o' had that last
On Friday 12 November 2004 10:07 pm, JoeHill wrote:
LOL! Okay, I shouldn't o' had that last hit of acid...
Hehehe... Well I'm a wasted rock ranger... I live the life of danger On
the road to find a higher high! ;-)
--
Take care,
Randall Hobbs
Programmer - System Administrator - Chip
On Friday 12 November 2004 11:10 pm, Jack wrote:
Good point Greg but I dislike upgrading. I always prefer to do a
clean install. My experience has been (up to now) that there are less
problems this way.
I tend to agree, especially when moving from point release to point
release,
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 12 November 2004 08:23 am, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:12:35AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
Best of luck in your future efforts with Mandrake, remember we're
always here to help (though, running 9.2 still, I've been about as
useful as
--- Randall D. Hobbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 11 November 2004 4:54 pm, Jack wrote:
Okay, I've spent a couple of months playing with
Mandrake Linux (10.1
community) and here are my (unsolicited)
impressions:
1 - I like the interface a lot. It is very
customizable and,
Okay, I've spent a couple of months playing with Mandrake Linux (10.1
community) and here are my (unsolicited) impressions:
1 - I like the interface a lot. It is very customizable and, well...
downright fun!!!
2 - It appears to be rock solid in the programs that it will install,
and
On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:54, Jack wrote:
4 - I use voice recognition extensively (Dragon NS and IBM ViaVoice). I
don't believe this even exists for Linux.
viavoice was included in the powerpack for version 7.2 and 8.0, and worked
much better than the same time frame viavoice available
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:54:01 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
I see great potential in Linux and I will maintain my dual-boot system,
slowly learning to survive in Linux while waiting (and hoping) for the
operating system to mature to a more usable state...
Remember, yer on the
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:54:01 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
I see great potential in Linux and I will maintain my dual-boot system,
slowly learning to survive in Linux while waiting (and hoping) for the
operating system to mature to a more usable state...
Remember,
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:51:39 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Just from what I've seen on this list, Mandrake is implementing a new X
window system, a new device management system (devfs to udev), keeping up
(trying) with all the latest gadgets, all the while operating with a lot less
JoeHill wrote:
Oh, and Bittorrent is *not* a security risk. In fact, I would imagine,
downloading via FTP is probably more 'insecure' than Bittorrent.
Then it's different from most peer to peer. Running ad-aware or other
such often picks up a few hits after
On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:01 pm, JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:51:39 -0500
Jack disseminated the following:
Just from what I've seen on this list, Mandrake is implementing a new X
window system, a new device management system (devfs to udev), keeping
up (trying) with all
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:23:19 -0500, Jack wrote:
On another tack... would Bittorrent Windows version be as safe
as it is in Linux?
It's not the OS version you need to concern yourself with as much
as the _kind_ of software. Being Win32 software does not make any
software risky--it's whether or
Miark wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:23:19 -0500, Jack wrote:
On another tack... would Bittorrent Windows version be as safe
as it is in Linux?
It's not the OS version you need to concern yourself with as much
as the _kind_ of software. Being Win32 software does not make any
software
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