On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 20:44, rikona wrote:
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 4:15:06 PM, you wrote:
AS On my first box (Altair 8080) you had to load a 512 byte
program (in hex AS by hand), which gave Dumbo enough smarts to
read the paper tape Then you AS could load a program.
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 05:29, ed tharp wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 20:44, rikona wrote:
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 4:15:06 PM, you wrote:
AS On my first box (Altair 8080) you had to load a 512 byte
program (in hex AS by hand), which gave Dumbo enough smarts to
read
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 22:43, rikona wrote:
Hello Aron,
Thursday, October 9, 2003, 2:42:17 PM, you wrote:
True. Suppose there is nothing at all on the MB except an encrypted
flash that responds only to the M$ key? That would sure 'protect us'
now, wouldn't it? :-((( What could we do?
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 07:16, rikona wrote:
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 12:05:47 AM, you wrote:
(1) How would you reprogram if reprogramming required the M$ key?
(2) Even if you did, you have broken an encrypted object, and would be
subject to Draconian penalties, which
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 9:13:18 AM, you wrote:
AS You mean that the board has an encrypted flash protecting the encrypted
AS flash. :-0
Sort of like that, yes. No key, no flash, no bios.
AS There is a Linux BIOS out there http://www.linuxbios.org/
Remember, the board has
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 10:27, rikona wrote:
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 9:13:18 AM, you wrote:
AS You mean that the board has an encrypted flash protecting the encrypted
AS flash. :-0
Sort of like that, yes. No key, no flash, no bios.
AS There is a Linux BIOS out there
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 2:20:56 PM, you wrote:
It's the 'final solution' Herr Bill might use to stamp out linux,
with a 'cover story' of making users more secure. Fits the M$
mentality just fine.
AS True but board designs are easy to come by given you scerenaro I would
AS expect
On Saturday 11 October 2003 00:12, rikona wrote:
Now you're talkin'. With luck, China will come to our rescue. :-)
Don't bet on it..though the Chinese government doesn't want to play ball
with Bill, the people do.
If they get (half) the chance they'll use of a pirated copy of M$ any-day,
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 15:12, rikona wrote:
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 2:20:56 PM, you wrote:
It's the 'final solution' Herr Bill might use to stamp out linux,
with a 'cover story' of making users more secure. Fits the M$
mentality just fine.
AS True but board designs are
Hello Aron,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 4:15:06 PM, you wrote:
AS On my first box (Altair 8080) you had to load a 512 byte
program (in hex AS by hand), which gave Dumbo enough smarts to
read the paper tape Then you AS could load a program.
I remember. Was that tape Bill's Basic, perchance?
Hello H.J.Bathoorn,
Friday, October 10, 2003, 3:31:23 PM, you wrote:
HJB On Saturday 11 October 2003 00:12, rikona wrote:
Now you're talkin'. With luck, China will come to our rescue. :-)
HJB Don't bet on it..though the Chinese government doesn't want to play ball
HJB with Bill, the
On Friday 10 October 2003 08:44 pm, rikona wrote:
You have a long history of not supporting M$, I guess. :-)
Ditto here - I started out with Atari computing in 1983, and was still using
it to browse the 'Net in 93, running Mint (Mint Is Not TOS!) (minix clone) on
an Atari Falcon 030, until I
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:24:47 -0700
rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
H A deal with BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies would allow the
H operating system to directly control hardware.
Hardware control is the holy grail. The US gov't tried it back a bit
by trying to get a chip in most everything
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:24:47 -0700
rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Try to spread the word: check carefully and NEVER buy any computer
with a Phoenix BIOS.
Unfortunately, this may be spreading beyond Phoenix:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/developer/0,39020387,2130826,00.htm
Quote:
Intel
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 02:16, HaywireMac wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:24:47 -0700
rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Try to spread the word: check carefully and NEVER buy any computer
with a Phoenix BIOS.
Unfortunately, this may be spreading beyond Phoenix:
On 09 Oct 2003 06:55:52 -0400
ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
GNU-Linux has for a long time been able to work around bios settings,
and not even use the bios for a lot of things, including hard drive
access and settings (ie; hdparm over riding what ever the bios says)
Trusted Computing
Hello HaywireMac,
Thursday, October 9, 2003, 4:58:29 AM, you wrote:
H Good to know, thanks. Still, it is important to keep a wary eye on
H MS, Big Media, and hardware vendors. If they see Linux as a threat
H to their hegemony, there's no telling what they might attempt.
True. Suppose there is
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 17:42, Aron Smith wrote:
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 11:38, rikona wrote:
Hello HaywireMac,
Thursday, October 9, 2003, 4:58:29 AM, you wrote:
H Good to know, thanks. Still, it is important to keep a wary eye on
H MS, Big Media, and hardware vendors. If they see Linux
Hello Aron,
Thursday, October 9, 2003, 2:42:17 PM, you wrote:
True. Suppose there is nothing at all on the MB except an encrypted
flash that responds only to the M$ key? That would sure 'protect us'
now, wouldn't it? :-((( What could we do?
AS Reprogram the flash
(1) How would you reprogram
Microsoft moves to integrate Windows with BIOS
Matthew Broersma
ZDNet UK
October 03, 2003, 17:25 BST
A deal with BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies would allow the operating
system to directly control hardware. It also raises concerns over who
controls the software in PCs
Microsoft has expanded
Hello HaywireMac,
Saturday, October 4, 2003, 8:06:30 AM, you wrote:
H A deal with BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies would allow the
H operating system to directly control hardware.
Hardware control is the holy grail. The US gov't tried it back a bit
by trying to get a chip in most everything
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