Mike,

Thanks for that courteous reply.

It seems to me the mailing list just gets damaged, the way it was hijacked pretty
well completely for a day, for an interminable bad-tempered spat, involving people
who are normally among the most helpful contributors.

I can understand the person who wrote he was unsubscribing; and I think any newly
subscribed newbies coming in search of information and help must have been regretting
they'd had anything to do with Linux Mandrake.

I'd beg guys not to destroy the role of the Newbie Mailing List, which
is one of the most valuable things about Mandrake, and to respect the OT
- take squabbles elsewhere, before they start getting out of hand.

There. That's my 2 pennys/cents/centimes worth :-)

DougB






On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:56, MWafkowski wrote:
> Doug - I wasn't joking...I was serious about taking this stuff to the OT
> list. One begins to think that the list is made up of all the loudmouths
> (like myself) and then other people chime in and say "hello, I belong to
> this list for other reasons" and you think, well, time to move it to where
> it belongs 8^)
> 
> Peace,
> Mike Wafkowski
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Beginners' Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Good for you, Carroll!
> >
> > re: MRW - I'm with momma :-)
> >
> > DougB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> > > I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with
> Linux
> > > that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get
> it. I
> > > was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made
> a
> > > lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close
> to
> > > being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web.
> > >
> > > I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political
> ravings by
> > > otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to
> periodically
> > > lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name
> calling
> > > that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing
> along
> > > with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss
> political
> > > matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to
> the
> > > kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to
> the
> > > local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as
> > > political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist.
> > >
> > > Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these
> episodes
> > > broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and
> sent
> > > an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion
> that
> > > anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of
> > > discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On
> the
> > > good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action.
> > >
> > > And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to
> do
> > > that to kill the drivel that other people are posting?
> > >
> > > (Nasty letter to follow.)
> > > -- cmg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
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