What is an outrageous amount of money? The Newport Engineering kit most
vendors sell was less than $200 last time I looked.
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:52 PM, dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.comwrote:
I've got a 58 chevy 1/2 ton and
The most obvious difference is the parking lights on the fenders instead of
in the grill like a Chevy.
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On 11/8/08, Duane Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a '51 chevy that I smashed the front end on many years ago. I
replaced my chevy front fender
The short answer is No.
Using those numbers you can determine it is not the original, but all the
numbers can tell you is that it could be the original, not that it is the
original. I have a book (at home, not here in my office) that would list
the right numbers for your truck, if you truck is
I don't know about a '46, but on an Advance Design truck the 1/2-ton swap
bar would work on the 3/4-ton truck pretty easy.
Might need to drills some holes in the cross member for the mounting bolts
and would need to modify the axle brackets to fit the slightly larger axle,
but I can believe it
Best wishes for a speedy recovery Nate!
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On 10/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get well Nate. .bill in oregon
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I think there are pros and cons to running a GMC motor today.
They all have pressure oil, and the castings are made of better steel. In
any given year the GMC motors were a little bigger, but today that doesn't
matter because you can run whatever one you want. The downside of the GMC
is they
Larry are you checking the forums at OldGMCtrucks.com? Some of the guys
there have pretty good stockpiles of spare parts.
Where are you located? I may have a complete 248 I could part with soon.
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On 8/28/08, Larry Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Cool, I feel I'd doing good that my wife lets me buy trucks, she hasn't
bought any for me yet...
That would be a great picture, I'll be eager to see it!
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On 8/2/08, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, we sold her motorcycle last week because she can no
hopefully somewhere near Pasco, WA
Define near.
I'm a ferry ride the other side of Seattle. Dig around a little and I
probably have two or three sets of those wheels.
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I bought tires from
Okay guys I'd rather have the wrecker than the school bus. Something to do
with childhood memories maybe. But I've been to Redding and back once this
year already, and need to find one like that a little closer to home!
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Since we'll already off-topic I'll admit I have Flowmasters on my Corvette.
And being over 50 I have been thinking about replacing them with something
quieter.
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On 7/11/08, vwnate1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flowmaster if you want that Basso - Profundo sound
'48 to '53 is different than '54 and '55 1st. I'm guessing this is a '48 to
'53 or you would have known that.
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On 2/22/08, inlinesixer292 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi early 48-54 stock frame for sale in lewisville texas rear springs
for the 1/2 ton are
Its possible, but the lower you go the less room you have for the drive
shaft, and the more having a split shaft helps. Is this a short wheel base
truck or a long? The longer the drive shaft the more important balance
becomes.
Why do you want to change?
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Will you only accept a response from Nate?
First in that series of trucks there was both the Eaton and a Dana rear
used, and if this van is the Dana nothing swaps. Second, provided its an
Eaton the pumkin will swap, but the parts used in the pumpkin may be
different. Safer to swap the whole
Mark's name I'm familiar with, but I've never met him and have never done
business with him. But Robert I do know, I have met him, and I have bought
parts from him. I'm surprised and sorry anyone has had trouble with him.
Robert recently had something on eBay and never responded to me when I
Pick up a copy of Classic Trucks or Custom Classic Trucks at your newstand,
you'll find ads from a number of vendors in there. Most of them will carry
a wiring harness either for your truck, or which would make sense for your
truck.
Before buying the harness decide just how original you want to
I believe a Dana axle was an option some of those years. Also 1-ton trucks
usually had a deeper gear set and aren't likely to be the one you want.
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I have been doing a LOT of research on this subject and have
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From: Steve Hanberg
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] 3/4 ton rear ends
I believe a Dana axle was an option some of those years. Also 1-ton trucks
usually
am not sure what the hub would look like. I thought on the 3/4 ton
they were a bolt on option. This truck is a 54 3/4 ton or 3600, and
the GVW is 6900.
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If your '54 originally
Well it would no longer be stock...
The challenge I'd expect is the steering box and exhaust manifold
interference.
Why do you hate your six? There are ways to solve a power problem that
don't require going to an old V-8.
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was in shock to see it just idiling away.
Anyway this is not the woodie page.
I am going to keep trying to get it to work, but I am frustrated
Dave
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Well it would no longer be stock
It doesn't tell us what it is, but the 2nd and 3rd characters identify the
truck as a 1954 and in '54 all GM trucks were six volt.
The 6900 GVWR makes it a 3/4-ton truck but according to my handy '55 1st
restoration pack (should be the same as '54) that could be either a pickup
or stake bed.
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It doesn't tell us what it is, but the 2nd and 3rd characters
identify the
truck as a 1954 and in '54 all GM trucks were six volt.
The 6900 GVWR makes it a 3/4-ton truck but according to my
handy '55 1st
restoration pack (should be the same as '54
a 55 1st Suburban. I like the wheels on your 1 ton
too, are they original?
Thanks
Dave
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The 'J' tells us its a 3/4-ton, or a 3600 series truck.
What it doesn't tell us
Where are they?
On 11/18/07, luke_the_drifter52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey All,
I have two doors, driver and passanger, I pulled years ago from a 1950
(?) GMC truck. They have no rust out. Any one know where I can get rid
of them at? They do not have the wing vent windows: These have
I believe the master cylinder on on a 3800 is the same as a 3100 and the
typcial dual master/power brake conversions would work on it also.
Mark Woodsen or ccpanel is working on a disk brake kit for 3/4- and 1-ton
trucks and he may be able to help you. Otherwise disk brakes on the 8-lug
trucks
Hey I've got a set of 8-lug 19.5 wheels, but no caps for them. They have
tires on them, three of the four probably usable. These wheels are on a '55
1st GMC but I don't know that they started there.
I'm near Seattle and think I remember you as being in Northern CA. Are they
worth shipping that
Don what model truck is this? 3800, 4100, 4400, 6400?
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From: Don Kirk
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:42 PM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] For Sale... 1949 Chevy Flat-Bed Truck
I parted out a mid-seventies G20 a few years ago and the thing that surprised
me most was that it had 5-lug hubs. The rally wheels off it are currently on
my '72 C10. That van did NOT have a full frame, but was a unit body setup. Is
that '69 sitting on a full frame?
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How about some pictures? I'd like to see how it looks on a 1-ton dually!
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What do you mean by pull it up hill? You sure aren't going to win the Pike's
Peak hill climb, but I'd expect it to continue up most hills even if slowly.
I use a 454 powered 1-ton pickup to pull a loaded trailer of about 7,000 and I
can accelerate up hills with some finesse. You aren't going
That looks like an Art Deco Canopy Express. I sure don't want it, but they
are rare enough someone will. If nothing else that tailgate is a difficult
item to find.
One man's junk...
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The title issue depends on what state you are in. In some states its not a big
deal, in others its a huge problem. I live in Washington and won't touch a
truck with out a title, but there is a process even here that can get you a
title. If you can wait a few years.
What year truck are you
I've seen it done several times.
There is a 6400 dumper in my community that has a 350 in it. Its a hack job
and does not look very good. I haven't seen it on the road in the last coupe
of years, but know where it lives so I know its still around.
There is another one, I think a 4400 that
All the transmissions that were originally available in these trucks have the
same ratio in their highest gears and result in the same top speed. High gear
is direct 1:1 in all of them. Its the gears in the rear axle that limit max
speed.
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Stock on that truck is a closed driveline. But more important, replacing your
stock Muncie SM420 with a Saginaw 4-speed will have no impact on your cruising
speed unless you also change the rear gears or rear axle at the same time.
Both transmissions have a direct 4th gear.
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Is your 3800 an Art Deco or an Advance Design truck? Does it look like a '46
or like a '48? I don't know that the answer actually makes a difference, but I
only know the answer on the Advance Design trucks.
Half-ton Advance Design trucks are all closed (torque tube) drive until 1955.
Both the Saginaw 4-speed and the stock Muncie SM420 granny gear 4-speed have
the same direct 1:1 4th gear.
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From: charles olson
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:40 PM
Subject: Re:
Some parts are the same as the smaller trucks, others are very different.
For parts that are the same obviously you just buy for a smaller truck. The
other parts you probably will be looking for newer parts that are compatible or
looking for used parts. Of course you need to be able to tell
So Allen have you investigated buying kingpins for something else, and turning
them down to size? I don't know the size you are looking for, but I would
think it possible to start with something bigger and machine to fit.
Might not be cheap, but certainly not prohibitive. And I'm sure much
Send it to me and I'll figure out what year 302 it is and how well it runs in
my truck. Casting numbers would date it but the first three numbers in the
serial identify the size. This is a keeper!
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From: widucl
To:
Don I was in Redding Friday/Saturday. I keep looking at the trucks parked
along I-5 as I run (couple times a year) between Olympia (where I hit I-5) and
Redding. Have you stopped and checked on any of the ones that can be seen from
the freeway?
Where is this Museum you are talking about?
I've pulled motors using the header above a garage door when I was a kid, but
don't think I'd try it again. That was on a very old over-built place. I have
a cherry picker type and love the way it allows maneuvering things around
without back pain. I saw one advertised for less than $150 at
I used '73 Chevelle brake lines. On the passenger side I moved the connection
point a little to make the line fit better. I used a kit that was designed to
use mid-70's mid-size stuff, so it may be the same as your Nova based
conversion.
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I don't know, its been about five years ago I did this... I just remember
exactly what stuff I used.
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From: luke zsiga
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Re:
Its actually the old Chevy Duty that has been a problem for me.
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From: Kenneth Cluley
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] clarification on American
I decided several years ago, when they were still Chevy Duty, to vote with my
wallet. So far I've been very happy with service from LMC Truck.
I currently have a dilemma because so far they are the only ones offering a
part I want. So far I've decided I don't need it that bad.
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You can do it using a conversion kit from one of the vendors.
The kit that puts a 70's type pickup steering box ahead of the axle may be the
one that requires the least butchery of your truck, but to retain the original
column you have to cut the column from the original box, insert a bushing
I bet if you change the thickness against the metric sizes you'll find its the
metric size closest to the original, rounded down.
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From: rmarks10
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 3:57 AM
This is what you need!
http://1954advance-design.com/Documents/RearSigLamp%20Template.pdf
Assuming you actually meant '39 Chevy bullet lights. I recently used this to
mount mine and it worked perfect.
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I think Gary is right, its hard to do.
I've seen where a guy changed the ends of the axle housing to keep the old
brakes and hubs while getting more highway friend gears in the rear. You don't
mention the axle ratio but since that is another popular question I'd suggest
you consider it along
Hi Jim,
You should be able to decipher that serial number at www.OldGMCTrucks.com.
I can tell you that 102 means its a 100 series, making it a 1/2-ton and the 2
in 102 means its a long wheelbase truck.
The 22 means the original motor is (was?) a GMC 228.
P identifies the plant where it was
Back in the 70's I had a Muncie 4-speed that was doing funny things. I got to
where I could remove the transmission in under 20 minutes.
The car I drove to work today has a T-10 in it. I wouldn't want to try to get
it out that fast!
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The serial number does mean its a 248. I don't know if a 248 can be bored and
stroked to 302 or not.
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From: vwnate1
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:28 AM
Subject:
Go to the inliners.org site and look for Buffalo. That's the guy who makes
them.
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From: ccpanel
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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] hydra-matic
a
Or modify the backing plates.
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From: rmarks10
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:14 AM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Huck to Bendix - I'm hosed
Aster careful investigation I have learned
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:17 AM
Or modify the backing plates.
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Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule!
To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email
About three years ago a friend of mine moved from near Seattle to near Denver
about 1600 miles one way. As part of that move we drove and towed some of this
cars to his new home. That was as much as 14 hours in one day and our only
vehicle problems were lights that failed.
One of the cars we
I'd be surprised if you found very many TPI equipped cars at auction that
cheap, though I'm sure it happens.
I don't think I'd want to suggest there was anything wrong with the early Bosch
system, its just that when compared to the later technology they were somewhat
primitive. Since most
Far as I know GM's first TPI was the 1985 Corvette. Camaro and Firebird got it
next. I don't know if it was a factory option on any other cars or not.
The GM system was far more sophisticated than the Bosch systems of the 60's and
70's. The concepts are similar but the computerized control
There was a TPI for $300 at a swap meet I attended in October. I did not see a
computer, but it otherwise appeared complete. I looked at it mostly wondering
if I could tell if it was all there and what generation it happened to be. I
didn't buy it and did not make note of who was offering
But would it?
I don't think it would be real hard to make a throttle body type system work on
a 235. Adapting the system from a 4.3 V-6 should be possible. But the
throttle body systems are not as economical as the more sophisticated systems.
Converting something more sophisticated, like
I use a different approach to approximate a conversion.
A 1-liter motorcycle is about 60 cubic inches. I can remember that, and often
use it to covert in my head.
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JD Green I presume. I too spent some time on the farm with some Johnny Poppers.
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Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re:
That trick worked pretty good 20 years ago, but not anymore. At least not for
me.
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From: joeedaddy2004
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] firing order
I've given up on them.
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From: Zort C. Brown
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Classic Parts of America Radiator
I ordered a Desert Cooler radiator
So don't buy from this guy. I bought my COE for $50 just a month or so ago.
He is buying them for a few hundred and trying to make money on them. Try to
find them before he does!
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From: Gary Perry
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I love that answer! Its exactly what I keep saying to my brother in law with
the broken Porsche, and both a Volvo and a Mercedes. Put a Chevy in it!
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From: mr55chev
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Sent: Tuesday, July
I've never trailered one of my trucks to a show, though I've thought about it.
I bought the trailer to haul treasures home, and occasionaly to haul one
elsewhere to get it worked on.
I love owning a trailer.
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From: TS
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The GVW of your old truck doesn't matter, weight that matters would be what
that truck and the trailer you haul it on weighs. I doubt the truck weighs
more than 6000, so a 4000 pound trailer should be big enough to carry it, and
still keep you under the max your truck is rated for.
Be aware
Could it be a glove box light, or perhaps leftover from a radio that was
removed?
What year is the truck?
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From: Warren Humble
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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:45 PM
Subject: Re:
My experiences with them have NOT been the same as yours. I rarely buy from
them anymore.
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: RE:
Good Job Rob! Thanks!
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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] About inappropriate stuff from list owner-all
please read
Ok, it has been
I think a 1954 Chevy pickup 235 is the best combination of fit and
engineering. If I remember correctly the '54 pickup motor has pressure oil,
the short water pump, and will drop in place of your '49. Can you get a 261
outfitted like a '54 pickup 235? If so, I'd choose the 261 for the
The difference that matters most is the self-actuating action of the Bendix
style brakes. When you press the peddle and the shoes are pressing against
the drum, the friction acting on the shoe works to increase the pressure
pushing the shoe against the drum.
The harder you push the brake
With gasoline pushing $3.00/gallon I'm not sure you could get it done for
$1.50/loaded mile...
First thing I'd do once hitting a straight road is try a panic stop. Then
I'd adjust my speed accordingly. If it stops real straight 35 might be
okay, but braking performance is a logarithmic
That scares me. A nearly 5,000 pound load behind a 3,500 pound pickup with
brakes designed to stop a total of about 4,500 pounds.
Have you updated or improved your brakes? Those brakes are marginal by
today's standards already and this trip you describe is expecting quite a
bit more from
Jim I'd say yes buy the Chevy TF book, but you should also look at swap
meets and on eBay for a original GMC book.
I know a lot of stuff is not repop'd for GMC, but everyone once in a while I
find an original that is interesting. I've never looked for '55-59 since my
stuff is all '47-54, but I
Saturday morning April 1st I'm heading out with a '56 Nomad sitting on the
trailer to deliver to a friend in Colorado.
I'm headed from home, near Seattle, south to Portland on I-5, east to Boise on
I-84 , and on southeast toward Salt Lake where I'll meet I-80 and continue east
to I-25. South
Well if you are right and he is wrong, he (as in I) might buy one. At $10K
I'm not real interested. But the repop Camaro body is pretty pricey and
based on that I suspect we'll be seeing an expensive cab too. Has anyone
heard what the price will be?
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Yahoo Groups doesn't have a rule that forbids ads, so it's up to the group
owner. I don't know what the group owner says...
In the State of Washington no title does mean a lot of hassle. I'd be real
slow to buy anything but a parts truck here if there is no title.
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I'd like to climb on my soapbox for a moment.
And applaud what Jeff did. He started by deciding what he wanted to end up
with. With a clear goal it is much easier to make decisions about what to
do. And with a clear goal the impact of rebuilding a stock motor is much
easier to compare to the
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