Re: [Openfontlibrary] FOSS and the Commercial Print World

2007-01-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2007-27-01 at 12:08 -0800, Raph Levien wrote: [...] A large part of the problem is that the vast majority of free fonts are in the novelty category. The number of original free fonts suitable for text that have a complete complement in all four variants is _very_ small (another fact

Re: [Openfontlibrary] david berlow on screen type

2007-03-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2007-07-03 at 15:02 -0800, Raph Levien wrote: [...] That said, there is a case to be made for optimizing display quality today. The richest unexplored avenue, I think, is grayscale bitmaps. Possibly, but people still want to print stuff :-) [...] I sense one opportunity for which

Re: [Openfontlibrary] looking for corefonts replacements, how to replace?, and site search

2007-04-12 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:20 -0500, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: 2) I am looking for replacements for Microsoft Corefonts which are TrueType fonts from Microsoft with WGL4 (Windows Glyph List 4) charset: [...] This is why I am looking for alternatives so I can suggest them to package users. Be

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.org live

2007-07-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 23:38 +0100, Daniel Glassey wrote: [...] http://www.openfontlibrary.org doesn't work but http://openfontlibrary.org does. (I can't remember who it was from the text layout summit that noticed this but they would really like this fixed). 'twas I. And yes, please fix :-)

Re: [Openfontlibrary] FontForge Icons

2008-06-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 11:33 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: George Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] FontForge doesn't handle alpha channels, so all icons should be indexed images with a transparent color. Or someone could write a patch to fix this limitation (just pointing out alternatives

Re: [Openfontlibrary] FontForge Icons

2008-06-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:17 -0700, George Williams wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 08:32, Liam R E Quin wrote: [...] Or someone could write a patch to fix this limitation (just pointing out alternatives here...) I am well aware of the alternative. The amount of work is quite large. Feel

Re: [Openfontlibrary] FontEmbedding.com

2008-07-24 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 00:35 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: [...] Bitstream hold plenty of software patents on all this stuff, and they aren't involved in the W3C, so anyone who wants to implement anything like EOT is going to be screwed by them. Bitstream (as I've mentioned to you before) is an

Re: [Openfontlibrary] FontEmbedding.com

2008-07-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 10:11 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/25 Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] I apologies for being hasty with that email, and retract the statement that Bitstream isn't involved in W3C at all. Sorry. OK What I meant way, Bitstream are not involved in the W3C CSS

Re: [Openfontlibrary] wiki spam

2008-09-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 19:47 +0200, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/9/26 Alexandre Prokoudine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] find the time to set up a captcha that works. I'll try again now. (Requiring registration doesn't stop spambots these days) Please make sure the captcha does not rely solely on

Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/

2008-10-31 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +, Dave Crossland wrote: http://typeface.neocracy.org/ I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-) Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D Liam --

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-02 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 01:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The single priority I have for openfontlibrary is: Creating a new openfontlibrary without any copyleft fonts. (and banning any new ones from appearing) Initially, Openfontlibrary was created as a place for fonts dedicated to the

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Canadian Public Domain

2008-11-03 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:01 -0500, Brendan Ferguson wrote: Here in Canada there's no such thing as public domain. http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5809 Hmm, dated 2006 and no comments. Is my recollection that copyright actually expires before US copyright in canada. It

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-05 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 18:01 +0800, Jon Phillips wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 04:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/2/2008 10:26:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Canada does indeed have a public domain. In fact, there are even Canadian public

Re: [Openfontlibrary] design service

2008-11-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 15:55 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: I happen to have scans from a 1930s or so Soviet Russia font album. Interested? :-) If Liam isn't, please publish them on the web and add a note to the wiki at

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Openfontlibrary] Fonts are software, so use a software license.

2008-11-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 12:08 +0600, Christopher Fynn wrote: [...] If eligible, might not one want to first publish a font outside the US in a country where the font is protected as an artistic work and as software? eligible will generally mean the creator is a citizen of a non-US country.

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Copyright etc.

2008-11-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 21:05 +0600, Christopher Fynn wrote: Some European countries have laws on Design Integrity. In the UK and Canada these are referred to as Moral Rights; in Canada at least, they cannot be assignned, i.e. you can't give them away. You have the moral right to be identified

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] CSS cascades: substituting typefaces with different appearing sizes

2008-11-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 17:58 +, Ben Weiner wrote: [...] In the case of a web page, the substitute typeface might need to be bigger or smaller; more likely, it might need more or less line feed. But there is no way to change the parameters of a CSS rule based on the typeface (font-family)

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Public Domain Fonts due to lack of copyright notice

2008-12-25 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 12:03 -0200, minombresbond wrote: here Ulrich Stiehl document that compiled more than 1000 Linotype fonts which are in public domain since at least January 2008 http://www.sanskritweb.net/forgers/publicdomain.pdf Compiled by Ulrich Stiehl, Heidelberg 2008 Fonts

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Public Domain Fonts due to lack of copyright notice

2008-12-25 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 00:43 -0500, fontfree...@aol.com wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 21:13 -0500, fontfree...@aol.com wrote: It's my understanding that anything published in the U.S. before March 1, 1989 without a valid copyright notice is in the public domain. (unless the work was

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] font face firefox friendly?

2009-01-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 16:37 -0500, Aaron Spaulding wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 07:31 -0500, Ed Trager wrote: If someone on this list has any ideas on how to check for @font-face support using Javascript, please let all of us know about it. Well the definition for the 'em' unit is the size

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] timeline + going live

2009-01-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
I expect this to be complete by the end of the month, but, maybe the end of next month is something to tell magazines and so on if you have that in mind. Generally printed magazines have a lead time closer to 3 months for news items. Or did last time I checked. So press submitted now might

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] @font-face, is it really needed for font preview?

2009-02-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 11:09 -0500, Daniel Johnson wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Ed Trager ed.tra...@gmail.com wrote: T[...] It would be trivial to write a FontForge script that generated an SVG font anytime someone uploaded a new .otf, .ttf or .sfd file. You'd have to make sure

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] @font-face, is it really needed for font preview?

2009-02-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 22:56 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: [...] Which is why the result should be a plain SVG file, not a SVG font +1 Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] @font-face, is it really needed for font preview?

2009-02-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 21:57 +, Dave Crossland wrote: 2009/2/9 Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net: [...] You'd have to make sure the license allowed redistribution of the font in a different format and under the same name, of course. Can you name some examples of such fonts that are free

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] SVG Support

2009-02-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 20:32 -0500, fontfree...@aol.com wrote: I have to point out: SVG files can't be opened with MSIE, and MSIE is the most dominant browser on the web... There are some widespread plugins that let IE open SVG -- Acrobat used to install the Adobe one, not sure if it still

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Bruce Perens criticized SIL Open Font License

2009-04-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 17:17 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Extracting fonts from PDF and saving in editable form is not rocket science. You just grab Fontmatrix/SVN :) That would be a really really really bad feature to put into fontmatrix, I'd say! Let's at least try to keep at least a

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Bruce Perens criticized SIL Open Font License

2009-04-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 17:37 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:45:22AM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 17:17 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Extracting fonts from PDF and saving in editable form is not rocket science. You just grab Fontmatrix/SVN

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Bruce Perens criticized SIL Open Font License

2009-04-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 00:23 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: [...] I really appreciate the art behind type design, but I highly doubt that type designers in them selves are really interested in locking up their work of art. You might be surprised. Having said that, I think I've said enough, it's

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OFLB at LGM2009?

2009-04-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 00:52 +0200, Dave Crossland wrote: [...] Since I'd like to have the OFLBv2 progress presented there, I wonder who is definitely going, and would like to to offer help to someone to present OFLB at LGM2009. For what it's worth, my travel request was turned down, so I

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] New patron, but wants high profile link for small donation?

2009-04-13 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 18:49 +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: On Monday 13 April 2009, Dave Crossland wrote: If you do want to mention a name on the front page then it should be something which randomly selects a patron, perhaps as a widget on the side bar, with a text like we thank our following

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Incomplete fonts/dingbat fonts

2009-04-21 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: [...] its a latin1 encoded font without a cap A, and so its obviously not a fully useful font. Therefore OFLB ought to politely decline it as a submission and ask me to fill out the caps, I think. This might reject the Old English fonts

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] format() for .otf fonts

2009-04-22 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 11:18 +0300, Henri Sivonen wrote: I noticed that the copy-pasteable CSS snippets have the wrong format() string for .otf fonts / fonts with PostScript outlines. It seems that all CSS snippets say format(truetype). It seems to me that CSS snippets linking to .otf

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] font linking bandwidth issues

2009-04-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 18:05 +0100, James Weiner wrote: [...] size of the two weights of the font is ~600Kb which is far too much to expect people to download (even with broadband as fast download time is crucial for text). Something up to 100Kb would be OK. Does anyone know any way of

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] font linking bandwidth issues

2009-04-30 Thread Liam R E Quin
[...] With a font you have rights to modify I'd recommend trying out using http://fonts.philip.html5.org/ for which source code is released under MIT/X11. Note that uploading a commercial font is usually going to be a non-no, but you can download the source for this tool, which is very

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 09:13 +0600, Christopher Fynn wrote: [...] Wouldn't you have to have access to the (c) / proprietary fonts in order to do this? Probably, but, it's not inconceivable to me either. Liam - C -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Should we offer EOT fonts (hosted from out the USA?)

2009-05-16 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 20:22 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: [...] The last thing I want is Microsoft, Bitstream or Monotype - known EOT patent holders - suing anyone involved in the Open Font Library for patent infringement. Despite popular television programmes :) in fact what happens first is

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] What's the big deal about @font-face anyway?

2009-05-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:30 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: [...] What I don't understand is, why is it a good idea to let website designers choose what font *I* read their text with? It's a basic usability question. It's a balance. Like Flash™, on the one foot it allows people to experiment

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Firefox 3.5 showing off @font-face prominently

2009-06-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 21:30 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The cynical part of me says: Scenario A. Commercial web site: 1. design departments will still swear by whatever expensive fonts Adobe puts in its products Libre/Free is not about dollar price. (Adobe's fonts are actually fairly

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Hevetice Neue on the OpenFont site

2009-06-23 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:34 -0400, Joshua A.C. Newman wrote: Well, I need something both low-contrast and modern for this project. I might even start with DIN or Futura. Not sure yet. In any event, I'm pretty sure I don't have the subtlety of eye to deal with Bodoni. Watch out that although

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] MIT Logo

2009-07-30 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 08:33 -0500, Eric Herkert-Oakland wrote: I took a swing at it. I went with your straight forward suggestion for time. Had to make it 10px taller to accomodate the dino. If that doesn't work, let me know. I'd suggest actually incorporating the oflb logo with a few

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] A preview of the fonts on OFL (includes a backup of nearly all fonts and a way to download them)

2010-02-14 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 21:27 +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: [...] I hate to rain on this parade but seriously, I don't think this is such a good idea at all! I doubt your automatically produced deb or rpm is up to the standards to become part of a distro archive. Depends on the distribution

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Google Font Directory

2010-05-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:15 +0200, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: [...] A much simpler example would be when English speakers borrow French words with accents and so on... Optimizing that out so that it can't be used sounds like a poor choice in the tradeoff... Touché :-) Long-term I'd like to see

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Google Font Directory

2010-05-23 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 10:58 +0200, Schrijver wrote: nice. Yet; if they’re open to font contributions, why don’t they just mirror the catalogue of OFLBv2? By encouraging people to use an API, Google makes sure most people will refer to the fonts on their site, and this lets them add a cookie,

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Oflb.org

2010-06-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:59 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: I have oflb.org and I redirect it to openfontlibrary.org. We could do the opposite of this, to reduce confusion with openfontlibrary.{net,com} No. You'll be in the same situation, oflb.com is registered to someone in San Francisco...

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Oflb.org

2010-06-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 01:57 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: [...] So the text by the icons at the top saying Get: Download Fonts, Share: Upload Your Fonts, Remix: Improve Extend isn't clear enough... okay. The first thing I see on the page is an ugly red rectangle with, Help the Open Font

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] wxFont

2010-06-24 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 15:02 -0400, fontfree...@aol.com wrote: Anyone know how good wxFont is at Font Rendering (esp. international, unicode, etc) It doesn't do its own rendering, as far as I know, but uses freetype (and possibly pango and/or harfbuzz). Ask Google :) A wxFont object is not

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Font for hiding passwords

2010-11-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:01 +0100, Felix E. Klee wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: It should be easy to create your own font, fire up FontForge, [...] Do I have to do that for every individual character? There are *many* Unicode characters...

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Fwd: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Open Font Library Release 0.5: Calling All Translators and Typophiles

2012-07-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:56 +, Dave Crossland wrote: Hi! What do folks think about putting ads on the site? If the ads are for libre projects I think it OK. Not so keen on e.g. Google Adsense here. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [GFD] Treatment of the OFL in the wild

2013-06-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2013-06-04 at 09:54 -0700, Vernon Adams wrote: Yes. So how best could embedding also become a better way of spreading them around? One way would be if Web browser extensions that identified fonts used in a Web page also included a link, get this font for myself. Liam -- Liam Quin -

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Anitype!

2013-12-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 13:48 -0800, Dave Crossland wrote: http://www.anitype.com/ Anitype asks a simple question: what if letters could move? Caution, do not visit this page if you are epileptic or prone to seizures... or even headaches. It'd probably help if the page had a list of different