Aw: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-03-07 Thread Marius Hanl
k.org" Betreff: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator) Dear JavaFX developers:   We would like to propose a new feature - rich text control, RichTextArea, intended to bridge the functional gap with Swing and its StyledEditorKit/JEditorPane.  The main design goal is to provide a cont

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-03-01 Thread Kevin Rushforth
All, Thank you to everyone who has provided feedback on the RichText proposal so far. If I could characterize the response, there are some developers who want at least a basic rich text control available as part of the JavaFX core and other developers who don't think that such a control

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-26 Thread Robert Lichtenberger
Having read the interesting posts following this announcement, let me add a few points from my perspective: I understand and agree we Johan Vos that there are a lot of open issues in JBS that should be addressed. At the same time I would very much appreciate if a RichTextArea were

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Nir Lisker
Hi all, I don't use RT controls, so I can't comment about the specifics of this or other implementations. However, people raised some good points that I would like to be more specific about. 1. Can the "components" of the RTA be separated out so that other controls can use them? For example,

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Thiago Milczarek Sayão
This is a good point, Martin. I would expect the JavaFX RTA to be basic, but extendable - to allow companies to offer commercial options for particular needs based on it. I don't see a single RTA component that would be useful for every need. Use case examples (that I could think of): - An IDE

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Le 2024-02-23 à 13 h 34, Johan Vos a écrit : That is not to say that we should not do anything. On the contrary, I'd love it if we could do more. But in the right place. Stability and basic features inside OpenJFX, experiments and libraries in the ecosystem. JavaFX could have a "basic" Rich

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
Hi, I agree with what others are saying that perhaps creating and adding this control is not a priority now for the JavaFX team. In an ideal world where the JavaFX team had more resources to implement things (like the team JavaFX had at the time of JavaFX 8 and before), this would make sense.

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Johan Vos
Hi, Interesting remarks. > Hello, > > >> A 3rd party control, RichTextFX already exists -- what is this new > proposal adding that RichTextFX does not have? > > It uses the standard JavaFX VirtualFlow API and and does not need to work > with reactive streams. RichtextFX depends on several long

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread mkpaz
Hello, >> A 3rd party control, RichTextFX already exists -- what is this new proposal adding that RichTextFX does not have? It uses the standard JavaFX VirtualFlow API and and does not need to work with reactive streams. RichtextFX depends on several long unmaintained libs: ReactFX (last

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Johan Vos
On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Andy Goryachev wrote: > Dear JavaFX developers: > ... > Sincerely, > > Your friendly JavaFX development team. > Not sure I understand that signature. I believe everyone on this list is part of the JavaFX development team.

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Johan Vos
I fully agree with John on this. A RichTextArea is something that can "easily" be developed outside OpenJFX . There are a number of examples already, e.g. RichTextFX, and our (Gluon) RichTextArea at https://github.com/gluonhq/rich-text-area In the past, we clearly said that this was not a focus

Re: [External] : Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-23 Thread Daniel Peintner
ndard control. Just a thought. > > > > What do you think? > > > > -andy > > > > > > > > *From: *Daniel Peintner > *Date: *Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 03:07 > *To: *Andy Goryachev > *Cc: *openjfx-dev@openjdk.org > *Subject: *[External] : Re:

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-22 Thread Christopher Schnick
Hey Andy and others, from my perspective as an application developer, I would look for providing an abstract but robust implementation that would allow anyone to implement such a concrete rich text field without any roadblocks. Maybe even going as far as going for a more abstract

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-22 Thread David Alayachew
I'm speaking from ignorance, but in the same way that java 2d lets you do image reading and writing with great tools to implement it, but it also provides defaults for png, gif, jpeg, etc. A good foundation to build your own is critical. But it does not obviate the need for a useful default. On

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-22 Thread John Hendrikx
Hi, Far be it from me to tell the FX team what it should do, I am still wondering the following: - A 3rd party control, RichTextFX already exists -- what is this new proposal adding that RichTextFX does not have? - What (if anything) is stopping a 3rd party from building a RichTextArea

Re: [External] : Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-22 Thread Andy Goryachev
. What do you think? -andy From: Daniel Peintner Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 03:07 To: Andy Goryachev Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.org Subject: [External] : Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator) Hi Andy, others, I highly appreciate and welcome the effort of a built-in RichTex

Re: Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-22 Thread Daniel Peintner
Hi Andy, others, I highly appreciate and welcome the effort of a built-in RichTextArea . A question that popped up in my mind is whether this work might include work in the area of *rich* TextField also? Probably it is out of scope. Anyhow, JavaFX Textfields are used in even more areas in UI

Proposal: RichTextArea Control (Incubator)

2024-02-21 Thread Andy Goryachev
Dear JavaFX developers: We would like to propose a new feature - rich text control, RichTextArea, intended to bridge the functional gap with Swing and its StyledEditorKit/JEditorPane. The main design goal is to provide a control that is complete enough to be useful out-of-the box, as well as