Re: Validation Support

2024-03-09 Thread John Neffenger
On 3/9/24 10:30 AM, Marius Hanl wrote: However, I found this old email thread. Two answers which reflect what we said: https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-September/010067.html https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-September/010094.html Wow, good find! Thank you,

Aw: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-09 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
Regarding the comment that the design of JavaFX is vastly superior to Swing.. I would argue against bluntly stating that (not criticizing who said that). There are obviously cons and pros to each approach. On the one side Swing was much easier for developers to extend and to add functionality on

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-09 Thread John Hendrikx
On 08/03/2024 07:37, Robert Lichtenberger wrote: One major pain point that we have at the moment is CSS performance, I think (but did not investigate yet) that some kind of performance regression happened somewhere between 17 and 21. I think this was addressed already, see here:

Aw: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-09 Thread Marius Hanl
: Freitag, 08. März 2024 um 07:37 Uhr Von: "Robert Lichtenberger" An: openjfx-...@openjdk.java.net Betreff: Re: Validation Support   Am 08.03.24 um 00:40 schrieb Marius Hanl: One note here regarding that a lot of things are final in JavaFX:   The problem is not that everythin

Aw: Re: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-09 Thread Marius Hanl
.html   -- Marius   Gesendet: Freitag, 08. März 2024 um 02:49 Uhr Von: "John Neffenger" An: openjfx-dev@openjdk.org Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Validation Support On 3/7/24 3:40 PM, Marius Hanl wrote: This design is mostly superior than e.g. Swing, where you can override things and ea

Aw: Re: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-09 Thread Marius Hanl
;John Hendrikx" An: openjfx-dev@openjdk.org Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Validation Support I think there is definitely room for improvement here, but I think most controls can currently be build externally, if you are willing to do all the work.  Your control may suffer however when you need to

Re: Aw: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-08 Thread John Hendrikx
? -- Marius *Gesendet:* Montag, 04. März 2024 um 08:13 Uhr *Von:* "Robert Lichtenberger" *An:* openjfx-dev@openjdk.org *Betreff:* Re: Validation Support First off, as the original author of ValidatorFX I feel flattered by the suggestion of including it into the JavaFX core :-). Some thoughts /

Re: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-08 Thread Andy Goryachev
, 2024 at 15:40 To: Robert Lichtenberger Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.org Subject: Aw: Re: Validation Support One note here regarding that a lot of things are final in JavaFX: The problem is not that everything is final - this is intended and makes sense, since we speak mostly of properties here

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-07 Thread Robert Lichtenberger
Am 08.03.24 um 00:40 schrieb Marius Hanl: One note here regarding that a lot of things are final in JavaFX: The problem is not that everything is final - this is intended and makes sense, since we speak mostly of properties here. Overriding those will not give you any benefit. You mostly want

Re: Aw: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-07 Thread John Neffenger
On 3/7/24 3:40 PM, Marius Hanl wrote: This design is mostly superior than e.g. Swing, where you can override things and easily break something if not too careful. Pretty sure that this were some lessons learned from the development of Swing. That's what I remember, too, but I can't find any

Aw: Re: Validation Support

2024-03-07 Thread Marius Hanl
to (better) get this started as well?   -- Marius   Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2024 um 08:13 Uhr Von: "Robert Lichtenberger" An: openjfx-dev@openjdk.org Betreff: Re: Validation Support First off, as the original author of ValidatorFX I feel flattered by the suggestion of including it into

Aw: Validation Support

2024-03-07 Thread Marius Hanl
2024 um 11:59 Uhr Von: "Dirk Lemmermann" An: "openjfx-dev" Betreff: Validation Support Hi everyone,   I updated the validation framework ValidatorFX today in our project to the latest release and I really like it a lot. It is a small compact API and works with any o

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-04 Thread Johan Vos
idatorFX today in our project to > the latest release and I really like it a lot. It is a small compact API > and works with any observable as opposed to the validation support provided > by ControlsFX. > > > > Using it made me wonder whether it would make sense to bundle

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-04 Thread Robert Lichtenberger
Am 04.03.24 um 10:01 schrieb Michael Strauß: I would not be in favor of adding any particular data validation framework to JavaFX. Data validation comes in all kinds of different shapes and sizes, which makes it a good fit for (opinionated) third-party libraries. I agree with that while at

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-04 Thread Michael Strauß
e, > > I updated the validation framework ValidatorFX today in our project to the > latest release and I really like it a lot. It is a small compact API and > works with any observable as opposed to the validation support provided by > ControlsFX. > > Using it made me wonder

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-03 Thread Robert Lichtenberger
he validation framework ValidatorFX today in our project to the latest release and I really like it a lot. It is a small compact API and works with any observable as opposed to the validation support provided by ControlsFX. Using it made me wonder whether it would make sense to bundle it or som

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-02 Thread John Hendrikx
observable as opposed to the validation support provided by ControlsFX. Using it made me wonder whether it would make sense to bundle it or something like it directly with JavaFX. Developers often mention missing validation support as a drawback of using JavaFX. Adding this would take one item off

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-02 Thread Dirk Lemmermann
pers require is data validation / form > validation. > > Dirk > > > >> Am 02.03.2024 um 16:28 schrieb Nir Lisker : >> >> Hi Dirk, >> >> JavaFX has some input validation support in terms of focus control and >> rejecting invalid characters.

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-02 Thread Dirk Lemmermann
Ensuring that only valid characters are entered does not ensure that the entered value is correct. What developers require is data validation / form validation. Dirk > Am 02.03.2024 um 16:28 schrieb Nir Lisker : > > Hi Dirk, > > JavaFX has some input validation support in

Re: Validation Support

2024-03-02 Thread Nir Lisker
Hi Dirk, JavaFX has some input validation support in terms of focus control and rejecting invalid characters. Can you explain what your proposal adds? Are there JBS issues asking for this? Thanks, Nir On Fri, Mar 1, 2024, 13:50 Dirk Lemmermann wrote: > Hi everyone, > >

Validation Support

2024-03-01 Thread Dirk Lemmermann
Hi everyone, I updated the validation framework ValidatorFX today in our project to the latest release and I really like it a lot. It is a small compact API and works with any observable as opposed to the validation support provided by ControlsFX. Using it made me wonder whether it would