Cathy,
Now my two devices are
syncing automatically and non-stop though my devices
are far away from my computer and hotsync cable.
I'd suggest selling it on eBay. Some people may pay quite a bit of money for a
device which syncs automatically even when far away from the computer. :)
Is there
Palm has never released a device with multiple SD card slots, but the
late Tapwave had two versions of their Zodiac handheld that had dual
slots.
Although some recent Palm models appear to have multiple card slots; its just
that one is internal. But they still use the normal VFSxxx set of APIs.
David,
Sadly, the 755P Simulator does not match the real device for either the
companyID or the deviceID. The 755P Sim reports:
CompanyID: hspr
DeviceID: D052which is the 700P deviceID...
Its curious that it uses 'hspr' instead of 'Palm', as actual devices have for
some time now since
Question: where do people obtain a recent usbport.dll in the first place?
Re-installing Palm Desktop and HotSync Manager did not install one. Maybe I'm
missing .sys files too.
I believe it does, just not in the location where it used to in previous
versions. I'd suggest you do a file find for
David,
Does anyone have suggestions?
As others have mentioned, some current Treos already don't use 'hspr' for the
company ID. I also use a simple IsTreo() function which I update as new devices
are known.
But what arguably is a better idea is to check for the existance of the
feature(s) you
Michal,
...and if possible all newer. can i be sure that this thing i am doing will
work on all of them?
I don't see how you can be sure. Since it is an undocumented design, it seems
to be vendors are free to do as they see fit when introducing new devices. I
think the only thing they'd need
Is there any option were i can lock the NumLock key till the user is in that
field
If you just set the numeric attribute for the field, the OS will handle it for
you automagically. The downside it that you will be prohibited from entering a
negative sign; entry is restricted to digits and a
I want to incease the font size by given value. Can anybody help me related to
this.
I want to print 3 to 4 lines with decreasing font size. Is there any API or
function which will help me.
No. Palm OS devices do not include scalable fonts. Most devices have a very
limited number of fonts
Hey does this code support palm devices that has windows OS?
Of course not., palm devices that has windows OS is a contradiction in terms.
If it is running windows mobile, it isn't a palm device.
And Windows Mobile does not run palm os code unless you count StyleTap.
Plus the code shown
Ben,
Well, actually with the current state of trademarks, many Palm devices
run Windows Mobile, but no WM devices run Garnet OS from ACCESS
Mea culpa -- I try to forget about them as I don't consider them real palm
devices. :)
But the point was that palm OS code snippets don't port well to
Fábio,
I need to install one application in one category like a subfolder with tree.
How I can do this ?
Short answer: You can't.
Longer answer: Category support under Palm OS is limited to a single list of at
most 15 categories, of which a few are standard and prenamed on the device.
If
Pinus / David,
I have no idea. I assume you have tried PrefSetPreference.
I have not tried working with sound / vibrator on the treo 650, but simply
changing the sound level via PrefSetPreference on a typical Palm OS device has
no effect until the next soft reset. The issue here evidently is
I do not want it to be beamed to another device.
You can set the dmHdrAttrCopyPrevention bit in the database attributes byte, but
that merely prevents the default application launcher from beaming the
application (it will show with the lock icon).
However, that will stop or slow down only the
Sagar,
So wats the solution ?
Get by without a unique identifier.
1) Look for Serial no
And remember, as pointed out before, some Handspring/Treo devices need a
different call to find the serial number then the standard SysGetROMToken().
2) If there is no Serial no (ROM), look for IMEI / ESN
Dmitry,
of the os4+ devices only the TE (this is to the best of my knowledge)
does not have some sort of a unique identification
Actualy, I think there were numerous OS4 devices without a ROM serial number or
other identifier, and in OS5 devices the low-end Zire or Zxx devices did not
either.
Baxter,
Seems to have worked.
So you are able to get all 270 records installed via Hot Sync now?
Why were you using duplicate unique IDs? Indeed, why were you adding a non-zero
unique ID at all if you aren't using a two-way sync conduit?
Wish I knew where this was documented - if it is
Baxter,
I inherited some code. The ID's were unique .within.the.file. (or database)
and set from the index of the loop that wrote the records to the file/pdb.
For less than 256 records the system worked fine, when 270 records were
tried, 14 records disappeared. Since the ID's WERE unique within
Baxter,
You may be right. Has some interesting implications, however, for utilities
such as Par and PDB Reader and even the Emulators and Simulators - which are
apparently failing to correctly analyze the pdb file.
That isn't really true. Palm OS does not enforce the uniqueness of the unique
Baxter,
I'll try it, but memory card is not going to work for customer. If there is
a bug/limitation in HotSync/Installer,
There is no such limitation in HotSync transfers. I've transferred databases
with 30,000 records in the past. If you are using a conduit, it sounds like
some loop counter
Baxter,
If I use a memory card for transfer, and then Filez to copy from the card to
main memory, I get all 270 records.
Which again, I believe, makes me suspect duplicate values for the record unique
IDs. The Exchange Manager (used by beaming, VFS transfers, etc) does not
perform duplicate
thanx for the reply. so direct connectivity is possible with USB OTG.
Only on devices that support USB On the Go. No device that Palm has
released has this support.
Which is why I said you need to use an intermediate device which provides USB
OTG to both the palm and the camera (or whatever
sriram,
i wanted to know if it is possible to connect an external device such as a
camera to a Palm PDA and fetch data from the camera?
External devices such as a camera are (nearly always) a USB client device, so
must attach to a USB host device such as a PC. Current Palm OS based devices
are
Durgesh,
Can we able to attach any barcodereader with our palm
There are several alternatives. Symbol makes a variety of devices with an
integrated laser scanner in the SPT family, though they have not come out
with new Palm OS based models in a long time.
Options for Palm OS devices
Luc,
How can I dynamically reduce the number of lines of a field?
I think you want to use FldSetBounds() for this.
I tried FldSetMaxVisibleLines,
Under the SDK doc's Comments section, this API seems to be a means to cap the
size a dynamic field can expand to when needed (that is, the
Luc,
singleLine
(This flag is for internal use only)
Well then you may want to implement the dual field approach, and decide which
one to make visible at any given point in time.
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Luc,
...and WinGetDisplayExtent() cannot
reliably used to determine DIA presence once and for all since it
depends on the current DIA and slider status :(
You need to use WinScreenGetAttribute(), not WinGetDisplayExtent().
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udayasri,
Please help anybody regarding creating custom font using Palm OS Developer
Suite.
Search the knowledge base at PalmSource for tiny font -- there is an example
font available for download. It requires a high density device to display it
naturally, but it works fine on them.
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Ton,
I had a feeling there was a better function than WinGetDisplayExtent() and
WinScreenGetAttribute() is it.
I hadn't remembered the name of it offhand either, which is why I didn't mention
the API name in my original suggestion. I didn't bother to look it back up
until I saw your reply and
Luc,
Actually, on a T3 with a closed slider, WinScreenGetAttribute returns a
height of 320.
But isn't that accurate at that point in time?
By the same token, can a landscape-capable device be detected? I do:
if ( SysGlueTrapExists( pinSysGetOrientation ) )
but this returns false on a T3 :(
Luc,
I don't know, this is what I observed on the T3 Simulator. Does it need
those PRCs too?
Yes. The problem is that the T3's ROM image was produced before the final
public API specs were available. The the built-in apps use a different
proprietary method which was only shared with those
Do you know is there any function to force Palm to wait 3 seconds before
processing the next line of code?
SysTaskDelay( SysTicksPerSecond() * 3 );
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Ton,
But if your app is written properly it should not be a problem because
the resize notifications will never be sent.
One reason that may not be sufficient is for apps which want to detect the
capability and utilize the space for specific forms even without the user
explicitly changing the
Ton,
As an alternative, he could check for high density. Z22 is the only OS5
device which is *not* hi density as far as I know.
I believe the Treo 600 falls in that camp as well, though it does not have DIA
support either so for purposes of this test it may not matter. However, instead
of
Jagat / Neil,
What is the maximum number of records I can create in a palm database ?
The record index is a 16 bit value, so dmMaxRecordIndex (0r 0x/65535)
It depens on which versions of the OS you want to support. Prior to OS3.5, the
routines used signed instead of unsigned integers, so
Can we access the appPreferences of one application from another if the
former is not running currently ?
Of course you can - that's how preference viewer / editor utilties work. :)
The better question is what you'd do with it. By definition, the usage of
meaning of any given app
It is working ok when my application is running but as my application can
also sense the phone call while not running, when i use PrefSetAppPreferences
at that time my system crashes.
Are you sure you are not accessing any globals or other restricted operations
which could cause the crash?
David,
I'd say the Socket
SDIO scanner performance is on par with the CCD scanner in the Symbol MC50
(and in fact it may even be the exact same scanning engine).
I know the engine in the SDIO scanner is built by Symbol, but don't know if it
is the same as used in the MC50. I've never used a
John,
I have found Falch Net Dev on win98.
How can i transfer this to my laptop running XP.
Falch has been unsupported for years now. Why don't you try PODS instead?
On your post from 6/10 it seemed like you didn't own a copy, so one could
presume the copy you found on win98 was not licensed
David,
Long time no talk.
I have personally tested the SD card and BT CHS units ... with complete
success.
Maybe the SD card unit has improved since first introduced (which is when I
tried it). How is the scanning success ratio for you?
I remember scan decode times being long even when it
Oswaldo,
I have an app made with gcc that now use Symbol escaner.
I would like use it also with Socket barcode scanner: 'SD Scan Card 3E' on a
Palm TX.
It is not compatible with the Symbol SDK, so you will need to add specific
support for it or else run the Socket in keyboard wedge mode.
Roger,
how I can most easily get my program to with Palm databases and VFS without
having to write two completely separate code bases?
The reason two completely separate code bases are required is that the two
storage paradigms are completely different. The one does not have a real file
system
Owsaldo,
the compatibility list includes all pre-os 5.4 devices [those that had
normal SDIO] and none after
Palm TX are not listed in the Compatibility List but my TX version is: Garnet
v.5.4.9
Since he said only pre-OS 5.4 devices were compatible and the TX is 5.4.9 and he
also said no
Ben / Diana,
Blazer is built into the ROM and cannot be removed without reflashing
the whole ROM using a hacking tool.
Or one other trick. By definition the ROM is read only so can't be changed
without a reflash. However, Palm OS does support having duplicate application
names in both ROM and
sHe,
hmm, haven't searched yet but does all treo have this IMEI? and is it unique?
Check the archives for discussions of this. But among other things, realize you
can only read the IMEI or ESN number of the phone while the phone module is
powered up and initialized. So while the user
Jay Ts,
I am using the PODS Resource Editor, and there doesn't
seem to be any way using it to specify layering of
the visual appearance (order of drawing) of things
in the form when it first appears (as a result of
a FrmDrawForm() call). And I could find nothing having
to do with that in the
Jay Ts,
Hopefully, the backwards-drawing versions will all be prior to Palm
OS 4, because there are no devices from that historical time period I
feel I need to support.
My recollection was that it was OS5 when it switched, not OS4. And that
originally the objects drew in object index order
Andrew,
I have created a table with two rows, height 24 each...
Is there any suggestions without pasting the code that anybody has?
As I recall, with some versions of the OS it doesn't handle well cells over 11
pixels high and taps are only detected in the top 11 pixels of a row. Do you
get
Kishor,
As i know that palm os does not support horizontal scroll bars
It does starting in OS3.5 (but not earlier devices). Just use a standard scroll
bar and reverse the dimensions. That is, the height should be 7 pixels and the
width whatever is required for your interface. Prior to OS
Note to self: proof-read before hitting Send.
As with vertical scroll bars, you may respond to the events yourself.
That should be *must* respond to the events yourself. The OS has no inherent
support for scrolling forms or tables or whatever. The scrollbar provides the
form object and
Linn,
But is
there a limit to the total size of the tables? I'm
using Satellite Forms and importing data from a Visual
FoxPro application.
The limitations vary somewhat by OS version. Prior to OS 3.5, the headers did
not specify UInt16 but just used signed integers everywhere. Thus before
Benjamin,
// Turn phone radio on, because otherwise it can't get the phone number
if(PhnLibModulePowered(smsLibRef) == phnPowerOff)
PhnLibSetModulePower(smsLibRef, true);
But then you don't turn it back off again. What if the user was on a plane in
flight? Or otherwise in an environment
Benjamin,
That's a good point. I wouldn't expect anyone to be running my application
while in a theater or on an airplane, though, because my application uses
the Internet, which requires the phone radio to be on, so people will know
that they can't use it in those situations.
Well, then why
Mike,
If only I could take filemaker or excel along.
Consider Documents To Go from Dataviz (see www.dataviz.com ) and you can take
Excel spreadsheets along.
Doug
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Luc Le Blanc,
How can I change the name of a DB saved as a VFS file
The database name is stored as a null-terminated string in the first 32 bytes of
the file. So just overwrite the first (up to) 31 bytes with the desired name
plus a null terminator. On the card, a pdb has the same internal
Luc Le Blanc,
Is this documented somewhere, eventually with a struct?
Yes, start here:
http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/fileformats/Intro.html#969980
That is chapter 1, Introduction to File Formats, in the Palm OS File Format
Specification manual. It describes the database header area
Ingbert,
BTW, price is relative.
Appforge allows to use VB and .NET which means that a programmer does
not need too much ... time to get used to the environment.
How
easy will it be to switch to a different platform if the previous
platform vanishes from the market?
Not sure if those
Bill,
We support scanners from Grabba, Symbol, and Socket in all of our products.
On the PalmOs side almost all of our users have a Grabba T-series unit and
they work great and almost never generate support issues.
I had early some issues with the Grabba T-series under Palm OS, but they have
Guich,
When i call DmCloseDatabase, does the db gets synced automatically or do i
need to call
sync explicitly (in zire 22).
Yes, the act of closing a database does force a sync -- or at least it does
presuming it was opened in read/write mode (and you have made changes?).
DmSyncDatabase() is
Roger,
However their CHS BT laser barcode scanner seems to have much better
potential. It uses a laser barcode reader, so you get far better
scanning functionality. It appears, finally, to be a viable BT-based
barcode reader! And it works with the Treo650.
Have you tried using BT scanners
Sasha,
Some problems what I have with new devices:
- Zire 22
1. It can't access to TCP/IP network.
And your point is???
It doesn't do voice recording or have a vibrator or take pictures or do
landscape or dynamic input area or SD memory or (insert favorite feature here)
either.
So what?
Elsio,
Ok, the problem have been solved.
The problem was the return value (Err), I only change it to Int32 and the
functions began to return values
I should ask them to document that in their tech note on shared libraries. It
was discovered by another programmer who was porting some of his
Luc Le Blanc,
According to the threads I found, this mostly (only?) occurs when
dynamically creating controls, which I never do.
But the OS does when using FrmAlert or variants like FrmCustomAlert, so unless
you avoid alerts (which are dynamically created) it is possible to hit the same
bug.
I am building a shared library to use in a NSBASIC application.
So, How to build the needed .inf file?
See http://www.nsbasic.com/palm/info/technotes/TN05b.htm
Doug
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Chinmaya,
Kindly help me or send me some sample code ,
People have repeatedly told you there IS NO sample code for displaying a PNG.
Palm OS does not have native support for it, so a decoder must be provided.
IBut I am sure I am doing wrong and I dont have capacity to make a converter,
Then
Benjamin,
The documentation on SndSetDefaultVolume that I looked
athttp://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/palmos/PalmOSReference/SoundManager.html#1040037didn't
say anything about it being a System use only function or Palm OS 5.
In that same document, go to Appendix A at
Benjamin,
Not that I needed to: No, I meant that I only needed to call the Set
function, and I used the PrefGetPreference to get the preferences. You're
right that I'm using Garnet.
I believe that if you want it to last past a soft reset that you will also need
to update the preference DB
Ian,
I need to have multiple palm device access to one PC. Hotsync limits access
to one at a time. Can anyone point me in the right direction, a clue where
to start?
AFAIK, the Hot Sync Manager is not capable of supporting concurrent connections
to more than one PC at a time.
If all you want to
KiraN,
Is it the fact that VFS only exist on the card.
Correct. The VFS is only for memory cards (or an internal memory card volume
such as on the T5). The RAM storage in a device does not support any file
system, including the Virtual File System. Use must use the Data Manager.
Likewise,
Doug,
What I'm doing only really looks good on a hi-res device, and ...
Especially when you can buy a new Z22 for about 80 bucks! :-)
You do realize don't you that the Z22 is not a hi-res device? It is OS5, but
like the Treo 600 and Zire 31 it is a 160 x 160 display.
Just because you are
R,
So, were developers ever informed or consulted about this ?
We cannot debug our application with a simulator - what harm would it do to
grant continued access to the old Debug ROMs ?
As I understand it from previous threads, it isn't that our desires weren't
considered or that they would
Jay,
All they need to do is port the Palm OS
GUI user interface to run on the Linux kernel, which has already
been done by China MobilSoft, now owned by PalmSource.
You know, I didn't make the connection until now, but in 2001 I recall there was
another GUI IDE front-end to the GCC toolset for
Phil,
The issues was in our resource file. I still don't know exactly why, but when
we removed the form that had been assigned the id of 10300 the crash
went away. When we added any form in that slot the crash reappeared.
Resource IDs of 1+ are reserved for use by Palm OS. My guess is
Oscar,
I was wonder if it is possible to connect from everywhere (ie from a cyber
site)just plugging the PDA in the USB and voila!
Not to my knowledge. I think you'd need to have a device driver installed
(which is part of what happens when you install Palm Desktop). The exception to
needing
Stefan,
i've released an new version of the pnoJpegLib. The Problems with
pnoJpeg2GetInfo are fixed now.
Thank you. It works as expected now.
Doug
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Stefan,
I think/hope i've found the error. The prc-File which was in the
zip-file was corrupt.
I've uploaded a 2.11-zip-file with a new prc-file. Maybe this works.
Thanks. Alas, unless I'm doing something wrong I'm still seeing the generic
Fatal Alert. I am using the newer code -- the one
Stanislav,
Yes, for birthdays it make sence...,
Although at the time, there would have been many more people still alive with
birthdays prior to that epoch date than there are now.
and if I think about this the year 2031 is not so soon as it seems:)
Unless you are dealing with expiration /
Regis,
For testing purpose, I would like to extract one of the integrated
application (.prc) from a ROM image (or from a device)
A long time ago I saw a software that was able to do that but I don't recall
its name.
Any clue?
There are a number of ways of doing this. One is using
Pritam,
I am having problem in fetching the PalmId for
the Palm device,this ID is always unique for every
handheld.
No it isn't. LOTS of devices do not have a ROM serial number -- or ANY other
unique identifier. This is especially true of lower end devices such as the
Tungsten
Indu,
Is there any way out to transfer a prc file from PC/net directly to
palm *wihtout hotsync*?
If from the net, then you can just use a HTML link to the file on a web page,
and use a browser to download it. (Or use the NetLib calls yourself and
transfer it via TCP/IP after establishing your
Erico,
//if this line exists
pnoJpeg_OpenLibrary(pnoJpegRefNum);
.
MemHandle resH = DmGet1Resource( bitmapRsc, 1000);
// resH returns NULL here and the err points to a Db rsc do not exist.
DmGet1Resource() only searches the most recently opened resource database. In a
typical application,
Klemen,
everything looks ok in constructor, but when i compile and run the
code, all i get are some small rectangles.
Try doing a soft reset on your device. I've seen cases where fonts have gotten
mangled and a soft reset fixed the problem. I think what is probably really
happening here is a
Larry,
So if I'm going to combine my records as you suggest, would
it be best to continue to use PDBs, or should I use PRCs?
In general, I just use PDBs. But there are cases where just making the
records resources in the application PRC itself makes sense. An install or
beam becomes
Larry,
This solution should be trivial to implement, while keeping in mind the lock
issues.
When you are done, why don't you post some before and after memory consumption
and hot sync time comparisons for the sake of the archives?
I just reread the thread subject and realized you may be
Anning,
I'm getting a width = 0 and height = 0 when I used pnoJPeg2GetInfo
I reported in June that I was getting a Fatal Alert using that call. My
circumvention was to go ahead and create the bitmap then get the dimensions of
the bitmap.
The call works correctly in version 1 of the library,
Larry,
The recordsizes are fixed at 20, 22 and 26 bytes variously for the pdbs.
Not accounting for chunking and overhead, the total size should be 6.7 Meg.
And therein lies the catch; you aren't accounting for overhead. All devices
(and not just NVFS based devices like the T5/650/E2/LD) have
Hynek,
frm-objects[frm-numObjects-1].objectType=frmScrollBarObj;
Have you tested this on a variety of OS releases? I guess I wouldn't have
thought the above should work under OS5 because of the use of shadow structures.
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Dave,
Thanks to anyone who can help (and save the rest of my hair!).
Hey, don't worry about losing your hair.
They say it is like going to heaven -- there will be no more dying or parting up
there! :)
Doug
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Luc Le Blanc,
A user reported me a list does not show on his Palm III. The code works
fine with 3.5+, but on older devices, the list draw callback never gets
called.
Are you using hide / show calls on the list? As I recall, that did not work
correctly prior to OS 3.5. So if you list is hidden
David,
...need to be able to deploy pdbs to multiple users at the same time from the
desktop.
Define at the same time. If you want multiple cradles hooked up concurrently
(say via a USB hub) with them all running concurrently, then to my knowledge Hot
Sync does not support that. Hot Sync
David,
...and libpisock from pilot-link of course, which PInstall and
Tentacle are (at last check) still using under the hood. MissingSync
from MarkSpace, SyncBuddy, and several other projects use it as well
I've not used any of those. I probably should have qualified my only publicly
Vesselin,
User stupidity is constant - the humanity isn't getting any smarter.
And here I thought it was the world's collective intelligence which was the
constant, while the population was increasing. :)
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Chris,
it's easy to forget how much has
been added to Palm OS. Image buttons, for instance, are
pre-4.1 from memory
Speaking of easy to forget, that particular change was 3.5 instead of 4.1 though
your point is still valid.
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Layne,
Were image buttons added with 3.5?
Yes, in fact 3.5 added so many things that I always wondered why it was still a
3.x release instead becoming the first 4.x release. But I don't know any of the
history of that.
I will say supporting releases prior to 3.5 would IMHO rarely be
Scott,
Anyone know where i can get a list of devices that have a flash ROM id and
ones that dont?
I don't know there is any definitive list. PalmSource used to attempt to keep
one, but gave up the end of 2002. Old information is available here:
Clive,
I am having trouble finding code (that works) that sets the focus on a button
(using a keyboard).
Are you talking about the focus ring which appears on devices like the Treo 6xx?
Or on generic palm OS devices running say OS 4.x?
Prior to the Treo 600, the OS had no concept of focus
Dina,
It didnt work in Zire 21, 31 or Tungsten E.
Among many other older models as well. Plenty of older models from multiple
vendors don't have a ROM ID.
And,Is there any other ID other than ROM ID which is
unique for the palms? (especially for Zire ,
Tungsten).
No; there is NO unique
Jenni,
Is there any Palm device that runs Palm OS 5.x and does not have a ROM
Serial Number? Thanks a lot in advance.
Yes, for example the Tungsten E does not, and I think had higher sales than any
other palmOne device in history. Also, the Zire 21 and 31 are both OS5 and
don't have a ROM ID
M Qaisieh,
I am looking for a way to create a folder in the internal memory for T5 or
LifeDrive
If by internal memory you mean the portion of memory used for the storage heap
for traditional databases and applications, then you can't do that. There is no
support for folders by the Data
I've been experimenting with pnoJpeg2 library ( version 2.11) decoding, and am
having great results except when trying to use pnoJpeg2GetInfo() to obtain the
original dimensions of an image.
It isn't clear to me exactly where this call should go within the sequence of
library calls, so I have
Henk,
I use it in 2PlayMe, you can check it there with your version of pnoJpegLib:
Thanks for the response. It looks like you are using version 1 of the library.
If I step back to version 1, then pnoJpegGetInfo() does return the dimensions to
me.
But I'm getting a Fatal Alert when trying to
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