Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Anthony Farr
Caveman, S! Don't go putting dangerous ideas like that into their heads. Pentax's beancounters are even now rubbing their hands and going Bwahahahahaha... at the very thought of it. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) In fact, I

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
Anthony Farr wrote: Caveman, S! Don't go putting dangerous ideas like that into their heads. I have even better ones ;-) You could do it like with calling cards / mobile phones. You buy the card, scratch it and get the code, enter it et voila, instead of 30 minutes of talk, you get 24

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
Hmm... not so bad idea, but according to my secret source Pentax is going even further. Very soon they will start selling just promises of outstanding products to come. You pay a yearly fee and get nothing. They earn money and spend nothing in annoying stuff such as RD, manufacturing, quality

Re: Fun Friday: typo awards

2003-06-17 Thread mike wilson
HI Keith Whaley wrote: Tim? He's an acid-head. And, that's the BEST thing you can say about him... He ponders, What's wrong with my brain? Fact is, he has little normal brain left. He will NEVER have a normal, functioning brain. That's also a fact. ...an interesting guy? If you get your

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Anthony Farr
Is it possible that PDML itself bears some of the blame for Pentax's shift to body controlled aperture. After being pilloried for dropping the feature on the MZ-S, it returns with increased emphasis on later cameras. So what happens? They get pilloried again! Bet they wish they were Asahi

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Anthony Farr
Intelligent purchasing would prevent the problem. A potential customer who also owns another camera which lacks body control of the aperture would simply not purchase an FAJ lens. There are still lenses in the current FA lineup that are close to the FAJs in specification, so just opt for one of

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Keith Whaley
Anthony Farr wrote: Is it possible that PDML itself bears some of the blame for Pentax's shift to body controlled aperture. After being pilloried for dropping the feature on the MZ-S, it returns with increased emphasis on later cameras. So what happens? They get pilloried again! Bet

Re: FAJ - New Lenses VS Traditional Photography

2003-06-17 Thread Rfsindg
My last two photo ID's have been digital. It gets a bit like 'Big Brother' when you think about facial recognition software... Bob S. Polaroid found their niche with ID photos and similar stuff. Digital has reserved its niche with webmasters and PJs.

Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Lon Williamson
Let's see if I understand this. 20 years ago we had a K mount with accurate aperature. Then we had the KA derivatives that were accurate only without using A. Now we've got KAJ which is accurate using A, and is about as good as K. Progress and improvement is a marvelous thing.

Re: Hot: THE Camera !

2003-06-17 Thread Scott D
Looks like it says Panasonic on the top of the camera's built in flash, but can't quite make it out. My favorite is the '50mm zoom'. -- Scott Caveman wrote: Hints: - the first letter of the brand is P (you can see that in the pics) - the flash hot-shoe is lateral and not above the prism -

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
At about $10K or more, digital MF backs will have to come down quite a bit for them to be appealing to me. I know the 35 cameras came down from these kind of prices before, but I'm not going to get worried for at least 5 years. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Moore
Lon Williamson wrote: ... There's this SWOOP in photography that urges you to Spend Spend Spend. Resist it on ballheads if you have a good Pan and Tilt. SWOOP? DKTA (Don't Know That Acronym). Regards, Stephen

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/03 04:06PM - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June

Pop photos test of the FA 200mm macro

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Eriksson
Here's the short version: Minimal pincushion distortion (0.46 percent) Exposure at the film plane was accurate with 1/3-stop underexposure due to light falloff, and about 1/4-stop overexposure from f/ 5.6 to f/ 32. At the closeest focusing distance of 20 inches (1:1) centersharpness was very

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 09:21 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: At about $10K or more, digital MF backs will have to come down quite a bit for them to be appealing to me. The Leaf C-most was under US$10K over a year ago. With full-frame 645 backs coming out, I think prices of the non-full-frame

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
Realistically, I'm really not their intended audience. I bought a used 645 and have to think carefully about buying a $1500 DSLR. A $4000 back would be very competitive and still beyond my range. I'm assuming here that pros who use MF are willing to pay a little more for equipment (given what

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intelligent purchasing would prevent the problem. C'mon! How can you demand _intelligence_ from this lot! (grinning, ducking and running very, very, fast...) Cheers, Jostein

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Jostein
From the buyers POV, yes, absolutely. I was trying to see things from a manufacturer's POV; which system to concentrate their effort on. The larger the film area, the bigger the challenge to replace it with a chip. Jostein - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] And that's what happens when you start to play compatibility games. Reasonable doubts appear and every possibility is open. I'm sure it helps sales a lot. It would certainly help sales a lot to be backwards compatible, even _with_

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Anthony Farr
If Pentax had maintained the all metal quality, all mechanical precision of the original K series cameras, then this would be a very small list representing the users of some very pricey gear. Camera manufacturers these days, unless their plants are entirely in Germany or Sweden and their pricing

Re: Hot: THE Camera !

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Apilado
Panasonic does make a digital camera, the LZ1, I think is the model. It sports a Leica Elmarit zoom lens - 12X optical! It even has image stabilization to assist using the 12X zoom. Now if only Pentax came out with a camera like this. Jim A. From: Scott D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Leigh
FWIW, I got my first 35mm SLR in 1984. It was an early graduation present from my parents so that I could take a BW class my senior year in college. I didn't know jack about jack. I went to a Wolf Camera(boy, have they changed?!) and bought an ME Super with an M 50mm f 2.0. Why did I buy

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Arnold Stark
What 'K' lenses are in the current catalogue? K28/f3.5 Shift, K500/f4.5, K1000/f8, Mirror lenses? Arnold Sylwester Pietrzyk schrieb: All 'K' lenses (maybe except for 100f4 bellows - I am not sure if it has automatic diaphragm) in current catalog uses stop-down metering and thus are fully

Re: Fun Friday: typo awards

2003-06-17 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, I missed everything in this thread except for this one email. Can I assume the Tim in question is Tim Page, the photographer? If so, I've been to a talk he gave a year or 2 ago and I think he's unsardonically interesting. Whatever his motives or mental state, and whatever the causes of any of

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
Anthony Farr wrote: Bet they wish they were Asahi Brewing instead of Asahi Optical. The brewery's customers are bound to be a more cheerful lot. http://pug.komkon.org/03jun/vdsync.html ;-) cheers, caveman

Re: 6x7 extension tubes 90 leaf

2003-06-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Dave, I have the tubes and the 90LS. I could swear that I have shot that way before. I just put #1#2 tubes on with the 90 and dry-fired it with the regular shutter and the leaf. What happens is that if the leaf is cocked, it will close the shutter when you press the shutter release but it will

Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: Hmm... not so bad idea, but according to my secret source Pentax is going even further. Very soon they will start selling just promises of outstanding products to come. You pay a yearly fee and get nothing. C'mon. They could send you some nice product brochures. They need

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Alan Chan
20 years ago we had a K mount with accurate aperature. Not really. 'A' lenses on Super Program in program or shutter priority mode is no more accurate than current combination. Just that this issue wasn't raised. Then we had the KA derivatives that were accurate only without using A. No less

Re: FA77 observation...

2003-06-17 Thread Andre Langevin
I read the thread on fast forward and deleted it afterwards. Now I'm asking myself, and youselves: is it OK to use an external hood with this lens (I find the internal one too small)? Or... do I have to mind about finding a light one (plactic)? Andre --

Re: OT: Doggy pics

2003-06-17 Thread Pentxuser
In a message dated 6/16/03 7:51:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://asiafoto.com/pets/dogs/index.htm Excellent shots. Great use of fill flash... Vic

Re: OT: Doggy pics

2003-06-17 Thread Pentxuser
That's what happens when you use fill flash. You get outstanding blue skies instead of washed out white ones. Is that what you prefer...??? vic In a message dated 6/16/03 10:53:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some cuties, but oh boy that sky is so blue it nearly hurts. Is that standard Oz

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
From Robert Leigh Then, I waited for the next body...the MZ-S. Damn! What an overpriced, overall disappointment. I know it has several great features but not freakin' $750-900 worth. Sorry, it just doesn't add up for me. I keep reding this list hoping that Pentax will come out with a body

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Lon Williamson
Anthony, I agree with every thing you say except very pricey gear. Almost nobody WANTS that old stuff anymore. Good post, and you're keeping me in check. Everyone I know says that's a good thing to do. grin. Anthony Farr wrote: If Pentax had maintained the all metal quality, all mechanical

Re: 6x7 extension tubes 90 leaf

2003-06-17 Thread brooksdj
Thanks Bruce. Maybe thats what they meant.g BTW I just got back my test jumping pans(Fuji 400F) and there not bad.Low light,1/30 wide open.Caught 1 rider full off the ground and jump/ground with motion blur. Cannot wait to get a longer lens for the 6x7 Brother Dave (tube watching)Brooks

Re: FA645 150-300/5.6 ED IF and about close-up lenses used onzooms

2003-06-17 Thread Andre Langevin
Included in the box was a Asahi Pentax S82 close up lens. (...) The urban legend says that close-up lenses may have not that great edge sharpness, but viewed from the viewfin! der the image is sharp from edge to edge with this lens. If there is a loss of sharpness at the edges, which there

Re: [Fwd: You have been removed from the list]

2003-06-17 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I have my own domain, and email is forwarded to btinternet from there. Now I wonder if the problem is with the forwarding, or with btinternet. I wondered if anyone could determine the problem based on the email headings of the email I attached. Frits On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:05, Alan Chan wrote:

OT: film scanners

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
http://www.fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/Products.jsp?nav=1parent=PRODUCT_CATEGORY_473512product=43535001 Interesting claim: Compatible with all formats of film allowing excellent print quality up to 40x 60 from 35mm cheers, caveman

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
Good. Now I'll send you a free screwmount Zenit camera, but you have to use that one only for the rest of your life. No other gear allowed. frank theriault wrote: Mind you, after the Revolution, we'll all have professional digital bodies, with full backwards and forwards and up and down

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 17, 2003 08:07 pm, Caveman wrote: Good. Now I'll send you a free screwmount Zenit camera, but you have to use that one only for the rest of your life. No other gear allowed. Any chance of making it a Flexaret? Nick

Re: What a joy!

2003-06-17 Thread Andre Langevin
Lasse, could you share the picture with us? I'm very fond of musicians photography. Andre --

Re: Testing, testing

2003-06-17 Thread frank theriault
Same thing's been happening to me for the last couple of days, Lasse. You're not alone... cheers, frank Lasse Karlsson wrote: Sent a message an hour and a half that hasn't shown up at my place. Now just testing. Lasse -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread mishka
guys, if you decide to go ahead, pls, don't forget to let me know when the stuff is up for sale. i might be able to help you with a buck or two vbg best, mishka From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lens Mount Progress Maybe we could have a joint Ebay auction, with all of the

Re: OT: Jazz Club (was Re: VERY OT - the Eagles-was:unsubscribe

2003-06-17 Thread frank theriault
Are you mocking me, Bob? -frank Bob Walkden wrote: you'd probably enjoy Noakes Singleton and the Retrievers. I've been a-snappin' and a-tappin' to their 7th album, the turquoise one, 'Dig it. Live at The Garden', featuring Shep Collier doing some very fine percussion work on the B-flat

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread frank theriault
And we'll all drive Ladas. -frank Caveman wrote: Good. Now I'll send you a free screwmount Zenit camera, but you have to use that one only for the rest of your life. No other gear allowed. -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch

Re: What a joy!

2003-06-17 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lasse, could you share the picture with us? I'm very fond of musicians photography. Andre Thanks for asking Andre. I'd love to upload some of my music shots. (I do rock, folk, latin, even classical if I get a chance), however I simply haven't built

What a joy!

2003-06-17 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Hi guys, Just want to send a message and share a moment of pure joy with you. I'm in the middle, or rather the end of a rather hectic work writing and delivering photos for a Programme paper for an upcoming jazz festival in The Aland Islands. I know jazz (I used to be a jazz (rock, latin)

Re: What a joy!

2003-06-17 Thread fastpat
Thanks for sharing, Lasse! That was a breath of fresh air. Creating images you want to cherish is the best part of photography. Pat White

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Canon or Nikon name brand on your camera.priceless. price-less (pries'lis) adj. [...] 2. delightfully amusing or absurd cheers, caveman

Cave prediction

2003-06-17 Thread Caveman
In two years this list will change its name into PRML. cheers, caveman

Re: OT: Jazz Club

2003-06-17 Thread wendy beard
Bob 'Caca del Toro' Walkden wrote: you'd probably enjoy Noakes Singleton and the Retrievers. I've been a-snappin' and a-tappin' to their 7th album, the turquoise one, 'Dig it. Live at The Garden', featuring Shep Collier doing some very fine percussion work on the B-flat tortoise shells. Sounds

Re: Exhibit finally up

2003-06-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Congratulations! ===8==Original message text=== MR Well, after a full week of printing, mounting, matting and framing I MR succeeded in getting everything ready. This morning/afternoon I went MR down to the East End Food Co-op and Vegetarian Cafe and hung the whole MR lot

Re: 6x7 extension tubes 90 leaf

2003-06-17 Thread William Robb
I don't see any reason for not being able to use the 90 LS with tubes, though not with the leaf shutter actuated. William Robb

Re: OT: Jazz Club (was Re: VERY OT - the Eagles-was:unsubscribe

2003-06-17 Thread Camdir
very influential on the early Southern Bavarian jazz/Kylie crossover scene Sharply defined humour, Mr W. Kind regards Peter -- CAMERA DIRECT 8 DORSET STREET BRIGHTON EAST SUSSEX BN2 1WA UK TEL 44 1273 681129 FAX 44 1273 681135 http://www.camera-direct.com

Re: FA77 observation...

2003-06-17 Thread Alan Chan
I read the thread on fast forward and deleted it afterwards. Now I'm asking myself, and youselves: is it OK to use an external hood with this lens (I find the internal one too small)? Or... do I have to mind about finding a light one (plactic)? I wish I know the long term effect of using the

Re: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-17 Thread Alan Chan
What shall I do? Big sale and abandon Pentax? Buy Nikon? Don't be so foolish, buy Canon. Agree. regards, Alan Chan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail