RE: *istd custom function chart

2003-11-14 Thread Rob Brigham
Small. Rather than hagin Large, Medium, Small, Even Smaller and Smallest - they just have L,M and S, but let you toggle how small S is. -Original Message- From: max mcrae [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2003 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *istd custom function

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread cbwaters
Where is the site that will translate the Babblefish result into English? One never knows if the gist he's extracted is anything like the actual content. Cory - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:11 AM

Re: *istd custom function chart

2003-11-14 Thread max mcrae
Thank you Robtoo silly really. - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:40 AM Subject: RE: *istd custom function chart Small. Rather than hagin Large, Medium, Small, Even Smaller and Smallest - they

Re: Pentax enthusiast (long)

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Used Leica gear isn't always expensive. In fact, some equipment is less spendy than used Pentax gear. scb I wish I could get Leica gear for the cost of my Pentax.

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Frits Wüthrich
It says Nikon will concentrate fully on development of digital and stop (starting today) further development of film based camera's. I take from that that they will sell there existing film based cameras, but not develop anything new. For the Japanese market however they will stop the sales from

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Ryan Lee
Yikes that's big news. So much for oligopoly.. Whoever the Canon CEO is.. I say he'll be on the cover of Fortune sometime soon because damn he's doing a good job- everyone else is scrambling! Syl, you mentioned the idea of Pentax marrying Nikon- imagine them making Nikkor and Pentax lenses in both

I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yep, I'm in a mood to rant a little ... and it ain't even Sunday morning. I've been back on the list for a short while, and am (almost) stunned to find so many messages about digital imaging. The messages I've read had little, if anything, to do with photography, at least in the sense that I've

ME-F vs ME Super

2003-11-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Simple question this time: is the ME-F an ME Super with add-ons? Do the add-ons hinder when not using the dedicated AF lens, or can one forget about them and just bear a bit more weight? Thanks, Kostas

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Leonard Paris
You've been gone way too long! If you'd have been here, you'd know that it was arbitrarily decided that photographs cannot be made with digital cameras. I won't say who made that decision. They know who they are. VBG Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL

Re: ME-F vs ME Super

2003-11-14 Thread keller.schaefer
It is exactly that: A ME Super with an added battery compartment (condition of which you should check). With MF lenses it has the benefit of focus confirmation. Sven Zitat von Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Simple question this time: is the ME-F an ME Super with add-ons? Do the

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Eactivist
Now, on a completely different note: Does anyone have a great recipe for beef stew? I've been craving comfort food lately ... wonder why? shel Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Ice cream. Anytime there is a new technology, there is a learning overhead. And there also is bound to be some

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Eactivist
This is sad. Must mean Nikon is on the ropes. And, boy, is it happening much faster than I thought it would. Marnie aka Doe Much faster, even though I thought it might happen fast.

Re: *istd custom function chart

2003-11-14 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi max, on 15 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list: Ergo, what is this S? You can choose three image resoultions: L, M and S. L and M are fixed (L=3008x2008Pixel), but you can choose, which resolution the camera records in S. Cheers, Heiko

Re: PUG November is open

2003-11-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, mike wilson wrote: 3. _maybe_ would have been better if she had been looking at camera. I I like it as it is, if it makes any difference :-) It's sports, the ball is more important, the camera does not exist. Very fond of the hair in front of the eyes and the

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Nov 2003 at 4:47, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've been back on the list for a short while, and am (almost) stunned to find so many messages about digital imaging. The messages I've read had little, if anything, to do with photography, at least in the sense that I've come to know photography

Re: FA28-105/3.2-4.5

2003-11-14 Thread Alin Flaider
Dario, Don't take it as a disregard to digital posts bearing hard factual data. I do appreciate your comparisons between dslrs. I specified digital rant and expressed my regret for having interesting but too classic topics silenced by the digital noise. To which I did contribute

Re: TOPDML Beer and Camera Meet

2003-11-14 Thread brooksdj
So, a few of us Toronto area types got together last weekend at a local brew pub, to drink beer. Oh yeah, and, to show off some new (to us) equipment. Dave Brooks, Jeff, Dave Chang-Sang and I were there. Jeff had his new Bronica 645 rangefinder

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Nov 2003 at 12:11, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Well, it just happened: Is anyone really that surprised? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Owens
Yep, I'm in a mood to rant a little ... and it ain't even Sunday morning. Snip. I AGREE!!! Can't help with a beef stew recipe, but can provide one for chili. Bill

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Owens
You are correct. We no longer make photographs. We make inkjet prints. Bill You've been gone way too long! If you'd have been here, you'd know that it was arbitrarily decided that photographs cannot be made with digital cameras. I won't say who made that decision. They know who they

RE: Help! My LX is stuck

2003-11-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Nov 2003 at 23:01, Jose R. Rodriguez wrote: Peter, You may also look into replacing the door with a new one; if your existing one is bent, etc I believe the Pentax Parts Department (1-800-877-0155) still has them for about $45.00. If you do get it open I suspect that the door

Re: ME-F vs ME Super

2003-11-14 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
The problem is that the ME-F eats batteries like peanuts. Ciao, Dario - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:51 PM Subject: ME-F vs ME Super Simple question this time: is the ME-F an ME Super with

RE: Pentax enthusiast (long)

2003-11-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Nov 2003 at 21:57, David Madsen wrote: Pentax lenses are very under appreciated. Not by most of the suckers on this list (me included). Like Bob I've owned Contax and still own Leica and great Pentax glass and it's pretty difficult differentiate between film shot using them without

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Owens
IMHO, Nikon is not on the ropes. Although it's sooner than I expected, I basically made the call two days ago right here on the list when I stated that manufacturers weren't temporarily neglecting film, they were abandoning it. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Keith Whaley
Hi Marnie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is sad. Must mean Nikon is on the ropes. Why would you assume that? Do you mean you believe that they might be in dire financial straights? Or am I just totally insensitive to the photography market? Nikon is simply but loudly saying We're devoting

Re: ME-F vs ME Super

2003-11-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: The problem is that the ME-F eats batteries like peanuts. Even without using the AF? Any ideas why? Thanks, Kostas

Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!

2003-11-14 Thread Leonard Paris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave does this for money. The idea is to shoot at latge apertures with shallow DOF to separate the subject from the background. Zone focusing means And that's getting a lot harder to do with all of these small aperture wide-angle zooms. Ugh!

Re: Pentax enthusiast (long)

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL A few years ago I showed some prints to a couple of Leica aficionados. The photos were made with a Super Takumar 50mm 1.4. The Leica people knew I was a Leica user. Every one of them commented on how great the Leica glass was. shel Like Bob I've owned Contax and still own Leica and

Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ooooh ... Ooooh I got an f4.5 lens. It's 3x better than an f1.4 And I don't even have to focus it LOL Seriously, Len, you're right on the money. It's getting more difficult for the average photographer to get that separation of the main subject from the background. It's true to an extent even

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Eactivist
keith whaley wrote: Why would you assume that? Do you mean you believe that they might be in dire financial straights? Keith, I may have misread the article, but it seemed it was saying that number of film camera sales was way below what Nikon expected. That says to me -- let's say Nikon is

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Owens
I think that all the major manufacturers, with the possible exception of Minolta (are they a major manufacturer anymore?) have probably made the same decision, just Nikon has made if official. Bill And, boy, is it happening much faster than I thought it would. Me too! And, to have a major

Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
Well, given the other thread, I guess we know the fate of the F6 (flim version, anyway.) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/13/03 08:54PM - Original

Re: New Pentax SMC-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26

2003-11-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
I think Pentax will be using the APS for a few years. I don't think the FF sensor will be a big market for a while, and it just doesn't make sense for Pentax to try to win over those people. They simply can't compete head to head with Canon. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington

RE: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Mark Stringer
http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/news/2003/1113_e_03.htm Nikon says it ain't so -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan... Well, it just

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Eactivist
keith whaley wrote: Nikon has been heavily immersed in and committed to the business of providing cameras and equipment for professional photographers for scores of years, and I'm certain that if anyone at all has their finger on the pulse of professional photography, it is Nikon. That they are

Re: ME-F vs ME Super

2003-11-14 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
Some years ago I bought one secondhand for my wife, to replace her ME Super and adding the focus confirmation bonus (so much valued by her due to eyesight problems). It ended up with my wife asking me to get back her ME Super because she couldn't afford to change batteries almost each time she had

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Otis Wright
With the Kodak and now Nikon (others?) announcements, one would think all cos. with high volume low margin film-based products (lines) would be under pressure from the investment community to justify further expenditure (operations) in thse areas. With this pressure and public disclosure

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Doug Brewer
At 07:47 AM 11/14/03, throwing caution to the wind, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yep, I'm in a mood to rant a little ... and it ain't even Sunday Snip Okay, everyone, listen up. Shel only wants us to talk about what Shel is interested in. Before you send a post to the list, please send it to Shel

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan... The entire industry is abandoning film, including the film companies. William Robb Okay. But it's still happening rather rapidly, isn't it? The world is moving much faster

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:44 AM Subject: Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan... The entire industry is abandoning film, including the film companies. William Robb How long will

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
RAW is what the camera produces. A Canon will produce a different looking RAW file than a Nikon or a Pentax. RAW, in your own words, bypasses most of the processing on the camera. Most means not all. If you've not already tried it, grab a few different cameras that use RAW, take the same shot

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
OK: So they only deny they will stop selling film compact cameras in Japan. However, they're not denying a stop to the development of new film cameras. However, I supposed we were not discussing the precise nature of what make and kind of equipment is going to be discontinued and when. I suspect

Re: New Pentax SMC-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26

2003-11-14 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
More to the original point -- if one want the magnification of a 135 format 300/2.8 on a format 2/3 its size one should purchase a 200/2.8. It's that easy. Collin Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:27:59 +0100 (CET) From: Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good point Collin, One other thing I never see

new website

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Skofteland
It's not completely finished yet (so far only nature underwater and sports have any images; and sports is only auto racing currently) and it's a bit slow since it's hosted from home over ADSL but I thought I'd solicit some comments from the PDML. http://www.xian.us/ Please let me know what you

Re: New Pentax SMC-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
Ah yes, Pentax should sell the camera at a loss. A couple of hundred dollars a camera is nothing to worry about. After all they can make it up in film sales. -- Robert Gonzalez wrote: And Pentax may have made a mistake by not pricing the *istD more aggressively. Canon may have stolen the

Re: new website

2003-11-14 Thread danilo
Nice photos, but i'm not a pro. only one thing, to speed up your site, you can create some thumbnails and show them instead of resized original. so when it shows all the photo in a category, you don't have to load *every* photo, even unwanted ones This will save your band, and your visitors

Re: new website

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - From: danilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice photos, but i'm not a pro. Thanks! You don't have to be a pro to have an opinion... only one thing, to speed up your site, you can create some thumbnails and show them instead of resized original.

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread b_rubenstein
That appears to be a bit of mis-reporting. Nikon says they are getting out of the COMPACT film camera business not the film SLR business. They also reported a significant profit over the same quarter last year. The newspaper (Nihon Keizai Shimbun) said Nikon will halt all development of 35mm

Re: New Pentax SMC-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
Well, yes I would. For one thing I see a lot of stuff that says Pentax on it in my doctor's examining rooms. Pentax does not just make cameras, I doubt that cameras are their main income. However I doubt that Pentax is big enough for one section of the company to subsidise another. In some

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hey Doug, You circumvented the approval process. You do not set a good example for the other list members. You will be visited by the Standards and Practices Police later in the day. Are you still living in your van? Still parked near the school yard? Are there really humor impaired people

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Shel Belinkoff wrote: alex wetmore wrote: Unless you use RAW. RAW bypasses most of the processing on the camera and allows you to do the processing on your PC. RAW is what the camera produces. A Canon will produce a different looking RAW file than a Nikon or a

Re: new website

2003-11-14 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, I think the first page should show a picture from each category. This should persuade us that it's worth the effort to click on the links and look at the next page. Content, now should be your motto. The pictures on the index pages look quite nice, but the thumbnails are far too big. People

RE: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread tom
Here's a report in english: http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2003/11/10/daily44.html I guess you *can* make a few bucks with digital. -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.thomasvanveen.com 301-758-3085

RE: BH Digital Catalogue

2003-11-14 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it means that BH owners/employees keep track of what's going on (and who participates) most photography mailing lists. It's an impressive catalog, isn't it? Len Yes. I had to put it down

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:10:53 -0800 Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAW is what the camera produces. A Canon will produce a different looking RAW file than a Nikon or a Pentax. RAW, in your own words, bypasses most of the processing on the camera. Most means not all. If you've not

Re: new website

2003-11-14 Thread danilo
Nice photos, but i'm not a pro. Thanks! You don't have to be a pro to have an opinion... oh and I really love those artichokes ;) I'm joking, but really I like them much. bye danilo.

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
I also note that the news article was talking about consumer film cameras (PS), not all film cameras (SLR's). -- Mark Stringer wrote: http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/news/2003/1113_e_03.htm Nikon says it ain't so -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Well, it just happened: Is anyone really that surprised? With the declining figures of film-based sales, I see it becoming increasingly difficult for manufacturers to justify coming up with any new film-based hardware Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: You are correct. We no longer make photographs. We make inkjet prints. Bill Oh boy. Uncle Bill, I can see we're going to have a *very* long night sat outside PDML Central next June :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And that, indeed, was my rant and the whole point of my post. I do agree with Shel on one point though - discussion of intricacies of digital world takes us somewhat away from Pentax and from Photography. Indeed, comparing various OSes, software packages, file formats, and so on, has rather

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, I don't own ANY of those cameras, but it's not been hard to grab one of each to see how they perform. True, I live in an area where such cameras abound - in fact, many can be found just lying about on the ground, or growing in the shrubbery ... Boris Liberman wrote: I must say that his

Re: BH Digital Catalogue

2003-11-14 Thread Jim Apilado
I usually toss out catalogs - but not this one. It makes a nice reference guide for digital equipment. Jim A. From: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:16:38 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BH Digital Catalogue Resent-From: [EMAIL

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Keith Whaley
Let's compromise! Let's say their film camera department was on the ropes! g keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: keith whaley wrote: Why would you assume that? Do you mean you believe that they might be in dire financial straights? Keith, I may have misread the article, but it seemed it was

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Keith Whaley
Well, ain't THAT A kick in the pants! More media reports that got it wrong. . . keith whaley Mark Stringer wrote: http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/news/2003/1113_e_03.htm Nikon says it ain't so -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
BW will keep a long, long time in a freezer. Color is not as stable and deteriates slightly even when frozen. Also one will probably always be able to get the chemicals to develop BW even if one ends up having to mix up ones own developers. I am not so sure about E6 processing. And to be honest

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
Yes, I understand Lexus is bringing out a new Digital coupe next year. (g) -- William Robb wrote: We have been trained over the past couple of decades to recognize the word digital as being somehow different and superior. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well

telephoto dimensions for different image formats

2003-11-14 Thread Mark Erickson
One other thing I never see mentioned is that the size and weight reduction for these 'APS' size lenses will be (much) less for teles than it might be for Wide-angles. A 300mm f/2.8 will have a front-lens of just over 100mm by definition! Not much weight or size to be saved in my opinion ...

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread John Francis
RAW is what the camera produces. A Canon will produce a different looking RAW file than a Nikon or a Pentax. RAW, in your own words, bypasses most of the processing on the camera. Most means not all. No. A *ist-D will produce just about the same RAW image as a Nikon D-100, as far as the

Re: BH Digital Catalogue

2003-11-14 Thread John Francis
The really imopressive catalog is the *lighting* book. Omigawd. Yep. I got one of those. I don't know why, exactly; I don't do studio work. I think it's because I ordered a pelican case from BH. But it was interesting to flip through, at any rate. And if I hadn't just purchased a Fellowes

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
BRAVO, BRAVO! -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yep, I'm in a mood to rant a little ... and it ain't even Sunday morning. I've been back on the list for a short while, and am (almost) stunned to find so many messages about digital imaging. The messages I've read had little, if anything, to do with

RE: BH Digital Catalogue

2003-11-14 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The really imopressive catalog is the *lighting* book. Omigawd. Yep. I got one of those. I don't know why, exactly; I don't do studio work. I think it's because I ordered a pelican case from BH. But it was

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
Wait a minute. Do we know that Shel is a real photographer? Shel, have you ever used a Speed Graphic? Real photographers use Speed Graphics. I do not want to have to say this again. IS THAT CLEAR? ditto: Doug's PS. -- Doug Brewer wrote: At 07:47 AM 11/14/03, throwing caution to the wind, Shel

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
By the way, Shel, I didn't know you hated cat pictures. :) -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread John Francis
[Shel enjoys his Leica] What a lovely experience ... I could focus wherever I pleased (even where there was nothing to focus upon!), not where some sensor told me to; Oddly enough, you can do this with a *ist-D, too. I decided if the focus was correct or not, not some sensor that glows

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread John Francis
BRAVO, BRAVO! [Shel's rant deleted] You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway. I really like the irony here.

Re: OT:Publishing and photo credits

2003-11-14 Thread graywolf
Unfortunately, all they usually do is put a little notice in the editorial, or letters to the editor page. Never makes up for it. Some serious editorial photographers put a penalty clause ($$$) in their contract to cover such events, after all, Dave, at this point the credit is more valuable to

RE: BH Digital Catalogue

2003-11-14 Thread Doug Brewer
At 11:06 AM 11/14/03, throwing caution to the wind, tom wrote: The really imopressive catalog is the *lighting* book. Omigawd. tv Yeah, that's a fun book. Doug snoots... Brewer

Vs: FA28-105/3.2-4.5

2003-11-14 Thread Raimo Korhonen
I hope you are right - but the 24-90 mm is very good indeed. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 14. marraskuuta 2003 20:31

Kodak's announcement

2003-11-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
According to the December issue of Shutterbug, Kodak has announced that it will no longer produce slide projectors, and will stop servicing those already produced in 8 or 9 years. Can slide film be far behind? This is a shock for me. I give a lot of presentations with slides. I am accustomed

FS: SMC-F 24-50mm f/4 zoom

2003-11-14 Thread Joe Wilensky
This lens is in lovely excellent condition, with hardly any exterior wear and beautiful glass. It's a constant f/4 and covers the very useful 24-50mm focal length. It feels fairly rugged for an autofocus lens, as it has more metal and heft than most consumer FA series zooms. It takes a 58mm

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Dave Miers
I'm having a hard time swallowing the fact that film will be disappearing any time soon. I'm also having a hard time understanding that even film PS will disappear either. Throw away cameras that probably require the same processing are also very hot items for the occasional family photoshoot.

Re: FS: 67II

2003-11-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Silly to respond to your own mail, but forgot to mention that KEH price on the grip is $165. That brings the total to $1903. Great deal for someone! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, November 14, 2003, 10:59:36 AM, you wrote: BD Seeing how it is Friday, it seemed like a good day to list a

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I know I'll be cobbling together my own replacement for Photo Laboratory. Perhaps a couple of other list posters will join me in this effort, too; interested parties might like to contact me off-list to discuss the project (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Er,

Annsan and the *ist D

2003-11-14 Thread Cotty
It's a waste of time to start this thread cuz she's gonna delete it anyway. It's quiet in here. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk

Re: AF 360FGZ - Need Help

2003-11-14 Thread Leon Altoff
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:07:57 -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: Would a list member who owns this flash and either the *ist, *isd D, or MZ-S perform the following experiment for all of us? Set the flash on the camera, ready to fire. Set the metering to center weighted and press the shutter release.

Re[2]: 67II

2003-11-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Christian, Lean towards the *ist D - still have a couple of zooms for the ZX-10 and the flashes for my 67 stuff. Could also get the 67-35mm adapter and use some of my 67 glass. But want to check the D100 Nikon also. Even though Canon is the leader, I just can't get excited about their

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Keith Whaley
Dunno, Doug, but to me, for the past several decades, a loogy was something of substance, not just a little spittle. Yuk! keith whaley * * * Doug Brewer wrote: At 01:35 PM 11/14/03, throwing caution to the wind, Cotty wrote: On 14/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: They are actually

Re: TOPDML Beer and Camera Meet

2003-11-14 Thread frank theriault
Ooops... Sorry, Dave. You know me and those new fangled auto-focus cameras. As I have no need for them (trans: can't afford one, and I'm happy with MF - I know if I ever really tried AF, I'd be hooked), I don't really pay attention to what's what. I kind of thought that it wasn't an SF 1.

Re: Annsan and the *ist D

2003-11-14 Thread frank theriault
We're all ignoring you, Cotty. Just like a little kid, always trying to get our attention... vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Annsan and the *ist D

2003-11-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Of course, we can talk behind her back because she will delete the thread. ;) Bruce Friday, November 14, 2003, 11:35:58 AM, you wrote: C It's a waste of time to start this thread cuz she's gonna delete it anyway. C It's quiet in here. C Cheers, C Cotty C

Re: AF 360FGZ - Need Help

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Owens
Twice, but they're so close together that I can only tell by looking through the viewfinder. With the lens off A, there's only one flash. Bill - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: AF

Re: Nikon to stop selling film cameras in Japan...

2003-11-14 Thread Eactivist
Doug Brewer wrote: At 01:35 PM 11/14/03, throwing caution to the wind, Cotty wrote: On 14/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: They are actually withdrawing the compact film camera range not the SLR range. That makes more sense. Hard to imagine them just dropping SLRs like

Re: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread frank theriault
Shel's back. vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I feel like Mike Johnston Date: Fri, 14 Nov

Re: Re[2]: 67II

2003-11-14 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] But want to check the D100 Nikon also. N!!! The viewfinder is crap! If I go the Nikon route, I would have to buy it all. The D100 would have to be pretty compelling to win over the *ist D. Also, viewfinder is

Re: OT:Publishing and photo credits

2003-11-14 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, I was going to suggest you join Magnum, and let them look after this sort of thing g. But then I remembered that they have similar problems. Philip Jones Griffiths told a story about it at a talk I went to once. After Francis Ford Coppola had eventually finished 'Apocalypse Now!' it was

Re Bills Chili-was: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread frank theriault
Bill, Will we get to sample some of this chili of yours at GFM? Chili and beer and camping! Hoo Haa! Makes me think of the campfire scene from Blazing Saddles... vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert

Digital Issues

2003-11-14 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I'm wondering more about trade-offs than advantages. There's some real losses with digital. For instance, CD-R media is showing itself non-durable, with some media only retaining data for a couple of years. Indexing systems are sparce, mostly inadequate. (I'm going to purchase a laptop this next

Re: Kodak's announcement

2003-11-14 Thread Eactivist
This is not an improvement. I understand that Kodak must transition to digital along with everyone else, but some parts of that transition may be going to quickly. Was Kodak losing money on slide projectors? It seems to me that there will be demand for them for some time, if only for luddites

Re: I'm back

2003-11-14 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Tiger, Welcome back. Nice to hear from you, and glad you're happy with the Starkist D. I don't have one, or any other digital cam, but the concensus around here seems to be that it's good value for the bucks. Unfortunately it ain't the cheapest out there, but it seems worth the money.

Re: Re Bills Chili-was: I feel like Mike Johnston

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Owens
Oh yes, it's getting to be a tradition. Made with Campbell's tomato soup, hamburger, kidney beans, onion and chili powder. Bill - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: Re Bills Chili-was: I feel

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