RE: *ist D Survey

2003-10-10 Thread Paul Ewins
Please state when and where obtained; 3rd October - Melbourne, Australia Paul

Re: One more time: AF360FGZ vs. AF 500 FTZ

2003-10-10 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 10.10.03 7:30, Ryan Lee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other things which might be of interest to you, the 360 comes with an inbuilt catchlight and wide angle thingie for 24mm (if not it's 28-80, while the AF500FTZ is 24 to 85 I think) Not exactly true. AF360 covers 24-85mm and 20mm with

RE: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses

2003-10-10 Thread Paul Ewins
I've got the 30/2.8, 35/2, 40/2.8, 50/1.2, 85/2 and 100/2.8 along with various 50's for which I have F versions. The 35/2 hurts a bit because I bought that three months ago intending to use it as a normal. I've basically decided that the 35/2, 50/1.2 85/2 will be the LX kit while the 40 will

RE: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-10 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Thomas, I have the A* 300/2.8 and I simply love it. Before I got mine I tried the Tamron 300/2.8 manual focus (ugly green color) with the adaptall PKA adapter. I think the Pentax is slightly better optically but the main point why I prefer the Pentax is I don't like using any adapter mechanics

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully Pentax doesn't share your opinion. The DSLR potential market _is_huge_ - virtually every film SLR owner is going to eventually buy a DSLR in the next five years or so. Especially when the industry starts to

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Alan Chan
I dont deny that the market potential is huge, just that Pentax have not really taken to it, leaving it for the other manufactures to fight over. Whilst in the point and shoot arena, they are the market leaders. That would be a bad thing to give up for them. I am quite happy with the meagre

Re: Lens compatibility

2003-10-10 Thread Camdir
Has anyone ever reported how long-time Pentax users in Japan reacted to the change that Pentax did with compatibility? It would certainly be interesting to know their reactions. Unfortunately it seems that most of our Japanese listers aren't around these days otherwise it a pretty

Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably do no good, but I it would be fun to send him and e-mail: Hi, I am the expert who wrote your ad for you. I will have my attorney contact you about my fee. Continuing to use the ad constitutes your agreement to pay my $500.00 fee in full. Be

Re: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses

2003-10-10 Thread Bill Owens
Not to worry, Robert. Lots of people here whine about everything Pentax does. Bill Pentax has produced a fantastic digital camera, and at $1500 ($1700 some places) US, is priced about right. I don't like all this whining on the list re non-A lenses. If you haven't bought a new lens since

Re: One more time: AF360FGZ vs. AF 500 FTZ

2003-10-10 Thread Ryan Lee
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other things which might be of interest to you, the 360 comes with an inbuilt catchlight and wide angle thingie for 24mm (if not it's 28-80, while the AF500FTZ is 24 to 85 I think) Not exactly true. AF360 covers 24-85mm and 20mm with built-in

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread b_rubenstein
This is interesting perception of Canon, because it means folks have a short memory. Ignoring the Kodak/Nikon/Canon DSLRs for the moment, The Nikon D1 was out well before the Canon D30. Canon was playing catchup to Nikon in the begining (at least a year). Now things are back to the status quo

ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread arnie
hey guys, just joined up here. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the ist 35mm camera and how it stacks up vs. the zx-5n. some of the ist's features look very enticing - 11 point autofocus, advanced flash, 17 custom functions of course what i really want in life is the ist D, but

Re: Slide vs Film

2003-10-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bracketing can be nullified in print film by thedeveloper. You can more easily see the bracketing differences with slide film. Yep. This one of the big reasons why I shoot slide film. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses

2003-10-10 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: J. C. O'Connell Many people have mentioned just using a hand held meter intead of TTL. That will work a lot of the time, but not with varible aperture zooms, and macro will also get tricky because of light loss at high mags. Ditto for filters

Re: (OT) Back from my travels

2003-10-10 Thread jerome
Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So now that you're done school, you've had your post-grad road trip, does this mean that you'll actually have to find a job, and be a productive member of society? Sorta. I was thinking of moving to Toronto and becoming a bike messenger... what

OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I

RE: eBay plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Rob Brigham
Unless he DID pay his expert, who then copied your description and charged him as though it were their own work!! Dubious, but possible. I which case your beef would be with 'Micro Optical'... -Original Message- From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2003

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-10 Thread Stephen Moore
frank theriault wrote, re Lotus: One day, if I win the lottery... I've got a new (lottery) lust object, soon to appear this side of the pond. Have you seen the Elise? Regards, Stephen

Re: eBay plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Micro Optical's website is dead as a Dodo. I don't think they exist. But he was the one who published the text. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003

Re: Digital B+W printing (was: Re: My first *istD question(s)

2003-10-10 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Monday, Oct 6, 2003, at 14:49 America/New_York, Cotty wrote: Pass. Isn't there a company called Lyson or something that specialises in blacks for printers? See http://www.lyson.com/products/smallgamutframe.html This is a framed web site, so if you want the navigation menu, you have to go to

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Bob S
Alin, Every computer store, every electronics store, every large floor space, mass merchandise store carries digital point-n-shoot. Only the best, pro camera store will carry a 35mm digital, and they are dropping Pentax 35mm. The market here in the USA is clearly point-n-shoot. Christmas

Film for the future

2003-10-10 Thread Mark Stringer
Since Kodak has been changing emulsions and packaging lately, and announcing a shift into digital, printers etc away from film products, what company do you think will have a long term commitment and consistency to their film products (especially BW)? I am a TMax TriX user but I am really

Re: Slide vs Film

2003-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! PW Someone please enlighten me or send me down the right path at least. Once PW again, any and all help is very much appreciated! PW Pat Wunsch Well, I tried slides and unfortunately had to decide that it is too pricey for me. The processing of slide film including cutting it into single

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Alan Chan wrote: Unfortunately, when it comes to PS digital, Canon Sony are the leading players. Pentax ( Olympus) might be the winner in the old day with film based PS, but these products are losing their ground. And I must say, none of the current Pentax digital PS

Macro questions

2003-10-10 Thread Chris Brogden
Does anyone make a K-mount auto extension tube smaller than 12mm? And did Olympus ever make a 28mm macro lens for OM mount? Thanks, chris

Really, Really OT now:

2003-10-10 Thread mike.wilson
Hi, Keith wrote: I suspect one of the few cars that might match it in pur sang fun would have been an early 4-banger Morgan. Boring! Try one of the three-wheelers with a methanol drinking OHV 1000+cc v twin on the front. Driven by a lunatic. Until you've been on one wheel in a three wheel

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, arnie wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the ist 35mm camera and how it stacks up vs. the zx-5n. some of the ist's features look very enticing - 11 point autofocus, advanced flash, 17 custom functions I own both, although I really haven't used the

PZ-1P

2003-10-10 Thread Francis Alviar
Hello to all, I have an opportunity to purchase a friend's PZ-1P. Since buying it he ran no more than 10 rolls through the camera. He says it's too complicated to use and prefers digital point and shoot cameras instead. Anyway, my question is: How much should I offer for the camera? Since he

Re: Macro questions

2003-10-10 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 10.10.03 15:57, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And did Olympus ever make a 28mm macro lens for OM mount? No, they did only 20mm and 38mm, but these could be used only with bellows or extension tubes. -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Screwmount Lens Recommendations?

2003-10-10 Thread Andre Langevin
I also think it could be a bad sample, The lens was available for little money and as such was a beginner lens but it still was a high grade optic. It was designed with resolution in mind and gave very low flare once multicoated. If the front glass has no color it may mean that this surface

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-10 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On 7/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The mechanical aperture ring is a thing of the past. A continuously variable, microprocessor operated aperture control is a much more desirable form of adjustment. You can compensate for focal-length/aperture variations much more accurately this way.

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 20:43 America/New_York, Joseph Tainter wrote: The issue is gaining market share. Newcomers are more frequently swayed by price. It is not until they are more experienced that they realize they will need those extra-cost features. Newcomers will buy this Canon, not

Re: Film for the future

2003-10-10 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 09:27 America/New_York, Mark Stringer wrote: Since Kodak has been changing emulsions and packaging lately, and announcing a shift into digital, printers etc away from film products, what company do you think will have a long term commitment and consistency to their

Re: Free Photoshop Elements 2.0

2003-10-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul wrote: Hi, I have 2 copies of Photoshop Elements 2.0 to give away, they both came free with some gear i bought and i dont need them. If any one needs and wants a copy then just email me off list, first in best dressed. One rule, you have to actualy need the copy :) Regards, Paul

RE: (OT) Back from my travels

2003-10-10 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: jerome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So now that you're done school, you've had your post-grad road trip, does this mean that you'll actually have to find a job, and be a productive member of society?

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I admit to being a little confused as to why more people don't like Pentax's ps digitals. Pentax has always excelled at putting out small, well-featured, well-built products. They're rarely the first on the market,

Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Chris Brogden wrote: The internet encourages plagiarism, so the seller may not know or care that it was wrong to do so. I checked out the page, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2563924879 and he definitely claims that he had you describe it for him. I'd send him an email

Re: Fisheye - 135/2.5 - 15/3.5

2003-10-10 Thread Paul Delcour
I have the 15/3.5 fisheye. Truly great lens. So, maybe I should go for the 15/3.5 wide angle. Even at 444 euro? :-) Paul Delcour From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: AudioBias Systems Engineering Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:05:24 +1000 To: [EMAIL

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, tom wrote: Right now the p+s I'd like to get is that Pentax w/ the 24mm. Which model is this? One more thing...with digital sensor sizes, it seems to me there's an opportunity for a new class of p+s, a fixed lens camera with a seriously fast lens. How about a p+s with a

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Joe Wilensky
I think the question was about the *ist film camera. I haven't played with one, but I did recently pick up an MZ-5n (ZX-5n). The advantages to the MZ/ZX-5n would be its compatability with all K-mount (and screwmount) lenses and its classical interface, much like an autofocus combo between the

Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Not at all different - join the masses :( ann Keith Whaley wrote: Then my experiences are NOT all that different! Thanks, keith Chris Brogden wrote: No, no... email would be too easy. Then people might actually be able to contact eBay without needing to book a day off work just to

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, tom wrote: Right now the p+s I'd like to get is that Pentax w/ the 24mm. Which model is this? Espio 24EW. I just checked, the lens is kind of slow. One more thing...with digital sensor

Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don. If you hosted the pix off eBay, the easiest way to do something is change the original pix to something a little different, and change your URL in the auction (possible as long as you have no bids currently). I thought it was just his text that was lifted, i.e.,

FS: Kodak Stereo 35 camera outfit

2003-10-10 Thread Joe Wilensky
This is probably OT since it's a Kodak camera, but it doesn't compete directly with anything Pentax has made except the stereo attachments to traditional cameras, so I'm offering it here before sending it on to eBay. This is a Kodak Stereo 35 camera with original box, case, strap, lens cap,

Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Stephen Moore
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Some may remember the guy who stole pictures from someone here (was it your listing, Chris?) a while back and the colorful way in which he was punished for same - For those of you who are more recent or were off list then, the ebay person just used hrefs to show our

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-10 Thread Keith Whaley
What are they REALLY called, then? keith John Francis wrote: Caterham has improved them a bit. Many more engine options. De Dion rear suspension. Actual seats that slide forward and backward to adjust for different sized drivers. But, they're still pretty basic, elemental

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-10 Thread Keith Whaley
No. Neither have I heard of any such. What might it be? keith Stephen Moore wrote: frank theriault wrote, re Lotus: One day, if I win the lottery... I've got a new (lottery) lust object, soon to appear this side of the pond. Have you seen the Elise? Regards, Stephen

Re: PZ-1P

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Gonzalez
If he does not need the money, offer $300. The 28-80 is usually the kit lens which is crap by Pentax's standards. I have one from a used purchase and its noisy, got poor contrast/resolution, and it seems like there are bearings on the inside that sound like they're going to fall off any

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Yea, I agree that it would be nice to make the aperture and speed dials more analogish, the fixed position thing is really an artifact of older technology and historical reference points. Someone is eventually going to do this. Juey Chong Ong wrote: On 7/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-10 Thread Mark Erickson
Hello all you big glass experts, what do you think would be a fair price for such a lens? I've seen the SMC-A version for 1.800 EUR and the newer SMC-FA for about 2.700 EUR. I purchased my SMC-A 300mm F2.8 along with my A2X-L teleconverter for a little less than $2000 US about 3 years ago.

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-10 Thread John Francis
Well, whaddya know? That's the real company name, not a nickname. It was originally derived from Rotary+Lotus; the original cars were mostly rotary-engined. They ended up with three variants using Mazda engines (including one with twin turbos!), and some pretty frightening conventional engines

Re: Lens compatibility

2003-10-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Oct 2003 at 5:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I don't read enough Japanese to be able to say. You want a good translation of Asahi Camera (magazine). All I can say is that they were flying out when I sourced the first couple. And I am having problems getting any more at present!

Re: Fisheye - 135/2.5 - 15/3.5

2003-10-10 Thread Paul Delcour
Oops. Sorry. It's a 17/4 fisheye. I got them all mixed up. :-) Paul From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:08:00 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fisheye - 135/2.5 - 15/3.5 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct

Re: Re: M lenses

2003-10-10 Thread edwin
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Larry Levy wrote: Bob S is right on when he wrote: My first advice is to sharpen up your technique, get a tripod, etc. before you start looking for 'better' Pentax glass. The M series is capable of out shooting most of us! I've been using Pentax bodies and glass for

Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism

2003-10-10 Thread Camdir
Ann. Yes, that's right. Ooops! Well, it might have worked. Cheers Peter

Re: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses

2003-10-10 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:36 AM Subject: RE: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses Not as fast as AE with auto exposure bracketing. If you have the time, fine, but if you dont, your outta luck 'scuse

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-10 Thread edwin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Th. Stach wrote: Hello all you big glass experts, what do you think would be a fair price for such a lens? I bought mine for $2000 USD in around 1990 and sold it for under a thousand to a dealer in around 2000. The MFs are pretty rare so they are likely to cost more

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Bob S
Alan, I hear you, but have to wonder. Will the current crop of 25 year olds ever move to a digital SLR? They don't know anything about film qualities. When they need to replace that old 5 megapixel Sony, will it be another point-n-shoot with 15 megapixels? I don't know how long it will be before

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread edwin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Alin Flaider wrote: Kevin wrote: KW I really dont think Pentax is too fussed about the dSLR market, consentrating KW more on point and shoot folks is where the dollars are. Hopefully Pentax doesn't share your opinion. The DSLR potential market _is_huge_ -

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Treena
I just wonder how happy Rebel digital customers will be. Only time will tell, obviously, but I'd be afraid to drop any money on one. The reporters the company sends me are usually newbies, and almost every single one tells me they have a great! camera - a Rebel. I just smile and nod. Then after a

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread edwin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is interesting perception of Canon, because it means folks have a short memory. Ignoring the Kodak/Nikon/Canon DSLRs for the moment, The Nikon D1 was out well before the Canon D30. Canon was playing catchup to Nikon in the begining (at

Prodigital 2000 and D package

2003-10-10 Thread Andre Langevin
Is Prodigital 2000 from Toronto a good place to buy the istD? They offer the body + lens + grip + card for 1999. US Andre --

RE: My whine

2003-10-10 Thread jerome
Quoting tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sure my old straps won't work, I'll have to get digital straps. Of course, since they're digital, they'll be obsolete within a few months, and I'll have to get new straps. What a pain. Lucky me, my camera strap says SLIDE FILM in big white letters g.

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 13:34 America/New_York, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax, Minolta, and Olympus aren't playing the cutting-edge-pro-technology game because at this point Nikon and Canon have a huge lead. imho, Olympus is going one further by playing the bleeding edge pro game. And

Off for the weekend and Happy Thanksgiving

2003-10-10 Thread brooksdj
Hi all. Well i'll be off to the great white north in a bit, and it looks like the fall colour gods are smiling on us after all. Nice and sunny all weekend is the forcast. Cannot decide what camera to bring,so i''m bringing the whole army.:-) For

FS Friday: K2 with SMC 50/1.4

2003-10-10 Thread Mark Roberts
It breaks me heart to do it but I'm going to be parting with my beloved K2 and its genuine K-series 50mm f/1.4 lens. Gotta raise some money for several things (not the least of which may be grad school, as I hope to be pursuing my masters degree in the no-too-distant future). Anyway... Both

FS Friday: PZ-1p and lenses

2003-10-10 Thread DiMaggio, Marc
Well, I really hate to do this (and I may live to regret it), but I am liquidating what's left of my Pentax 35mm AF collection. I really need to focus my time, money, and energy on the 645N. (I am, however, keeping my LX and some M lenses!!!) All lenses are K-FA mount and come with both front

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-10 Thread Paul Eriksson
What about a tamron? I have the AF version described in this ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2954172301category=48558 . I've had it for a couple of months and I can't fault it. I did a test between the tamron a Pentax M* 300mm f/4.0 and my FA* 200mm f/2.8. The

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread arnie
Joe i own a zx-5n and i'm pretty happy with it. the mount doesn't affect me because both my lenses are fa. The question i have is whether the ist would be an upgrade, and whether its worth the money. arnie - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread John Francis
I'm sure that the market for SLRs of any kind is pretty small, and getting smaller every year. The 35mm SLR was successful against the cameras of the day because it was smaller, lighter, and cheaper. The picture quality wasn't as good, but it was good enough. And the SLR design was ideal for

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Bill Owens
The *ist would not be an upgrade. The *istD would be. Bill - Original Message - From: arnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: Re: ist 35mm Joe i own a zx-5n and i'm pretty happy with it. the mount doesn't affect me because

Re: Film for the future

2003-10-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Stringer Subject: Film for the future Since Kodak has been changing emulsions and packaging lately, and announcing a shift into digital, printers etc away from film products, what company do you think will have a long term commitment and consistency to

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Wouldn't the new AF be considerably better on the *ist than the zx-5n? If AF matters, the $300 ist may be a good investment. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
And the flash. Steve Desjardins wrote: Wouldn't the new AF be considerably better on the *ist than the zx-5n? If AF matters, the $300 ist may be a good investment. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878

Re: Off for the weekend and Happy Thanksgiving

2003-10-10 Thread Keith Whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. Well i'll be off to the great white north in a bit, and it looks like the fall colour gods are smiling on us after all. Nice and sunny all weekend is the forcast. Cannot decide what camera to bring,so i''m bringing the whole army.:-) For

They're all missing the mark

2003-10-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
From: Treena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Has Pentax missed again? I just wonder how happy Rebel digital customers will be. Happy enough. Remember clone computers from before 1990? Real junk. But people were willing to buy cheap knowing that the good stuff would continue to drop in price and

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread arnie
thanks bill - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:12 PM Subject: Re: ist 35mm The *ist would not be an upgrade. The *istD would be. Bill - Original Message - From: arnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Slide vs Film

2003-10-10 Thread graywolf
OR! The photographer is in contol, not not the lab. Do you really want minimum wage uncaring idiots in control of your photography? OTOH if you can find a really great lab, a skilled lab tech can sometimes save the photographer from his own idiot mistakes. Unfortunately those labs are getting

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Bill Owens
It may be a good investment, but IMHO the ZX-5n and 35mm *ist are so similar in features as to not make it worthwhile to consider it an upgrade, more of a replacement. Again, this is just my personal opinion. Bill - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread graywolf
Unfortunately Pentax no longer fills up warehouses before shipping. They tend to sell faster than the dealers can get them. How many Pentax digitals do you have in stock, Chris? How long do they sit around the store? Now, tell us, where is your store again (grin)? Go to a mass marketer. Look

Re: They're all missing the mark

2003-10-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: This next year we'll see a shake-up. Prediction: There'll be a 6Mp Pentax for $300 and built like it. ZX-Md -- Manual focus. -- No preview screen or extra controls. -- Just shoot and transfer to your computer. -- Pentax users will snatch it up @ 1/5 the

Re: They're all missing the mark

2003-10-10 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I assume Paal is no longer with us, as I didn't see his contributions any more lately. Frits On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 21:43, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: From: Treena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Has Pentax missed again? I just wonder how happy Rebel digital customers will be. Happy enough.

Re[2]: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
I think the best way to put it, is that if you are into automation, the *ist is an improvement. If you are more of a manual oriented operator, the *ist is probably a step backward in interface. --- Bruce Friday, October 10, 2003, 12:21:22 PM, you wrote: SD Wouldn't the new AF be considerably

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-10 Thread Herb Chong
i have a ZX-5n and an *ist. i miss the power zoom and the slightly better viewfinder on ZX-5n. otherwise, i prefer the *ist. if the ZX-5n had mirror lockup, i think it would make the race closer. however, the ZX-5n is a very functional camera and is capable of doing a fine job with taking a

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Alan Chan
I admit to being a little confused as to why more people don't like Pentax's ps digitals. Pentax has always excelled at putting out small, well-featured, well-built products. They're rarely the first on the market, but they're usually worth the wait. Not that I can see for the digital market so

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-10 Thread Herb Chong
for the *istD, it was a matter of tradition, i think. on my Nikon Coolpix 5000, the lens has 10 aperture steps. they don't really correspond to any traditional setps. however, they are shown as such in the display. Herb... - Original Message - From: Juey Chong Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Alan Chan
Pentax will price it and market it to meet their targets, whatever they are. The *ist-D is no Rebel Digital. They compete in different segments. If Pentax wanted to compete with a Rebel Digital, they would have called it a ZX-D or something like that. Don't forget Canon took everyone by

Re: OT: Nice bird, nice car...

2003-10-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:39:13 +0100, Cotty wrote: She's a nice gal, and as far as I know, between appointments. I'll put in a good word for you Doug. I'm willing to relocate. ;- TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: My whine

2003-10-10 Thread Herb Chong
first thing i bought for my *ist was the camera strap for the ZX-5n. Herb... - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: My whine What's going on here. I have a new camera that came with a strap

Cheap

2003-10-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:58:09 +0100, Cotty wrote: Any Cotty in a storm. :-) Oooh, that was cheap, Franklin! Not cheap. Inexpensive. And low-brow. But fun! ;- Probably the result of having a 500 year lineage of hillbillies stretching back to the Highlands. Hum. I guess cheap was right in

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Alan Chan
imho, Olympus is going one further by playing the bleeding edge pro game. And they're waging a pretty extensive media campaign by getting Doug Dubler to do the ads. Interestingly they run Fuji film and Olympus ads in the same magazine featuring the same model --- perhaps to imply that the

Re: *ist D Survey

2003-10-10 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zoomshot) wrote: Please state when and where obtained; 29th September, Cambridge, UK. --- John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Screwmount Lens Recommendations?

2003-10-10 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote: The existance of the 35/2.0 by itself makes me wonder how Pentax felt about the 35/3.5. They didn't in the same era make more than one concurrent version of the 24 or 28, but they made 2 35/2.0 designs and had them availible

Re: OT: Problems with Flash Card Reading

2003-10-10 Thread Eactivist
Well, thanks to Graywolf's suggestion, I got a Belkin powered hub and that seems to have fixed the problem. I removed then reinstalled the Memorex software and now I can access the flash card reader. It still shows as a removable drive rather than the little Memorex icon that is supposed to

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread John Francis
I remember those days. Those big heavy ugly DSLRs which were not designed for the general public, but press photographers only. Even so, few were using them. I guess it depends where you looked. In my experience as soon as the D1 came out you could hardly find an F5 in the media centre at

RE: (OT) Back from my travels

2003-10-10 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, tom wrote: I'll need a resume and a picture of your ass. Let's hope this doesn't turn into a PUG theme. :) chris

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread John Francis
Perhaps I have a different way to approach the digital products. The 1st thing I check is the picture quality. If they aren't good, I don't care. Why bother to produce a 5MP model when the images are(sic) that good anyway? Have you checked the Canon PowerShot G1/2/3/4/5? The Olympus 30x0

Re: (OT) Back from my travels

2003-10-10 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Jerome, I've never claimed that ~I~ was a productive member of society! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip member of society? Sorta. I was thinking

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-10 Thread Alan Chan
Have you checked the Canon PowerShot G1/2/3/4/5? The Olympus 30x0 series? The image quality of each of those that I've tested seems perfectly adequate for any situation where I'd consider using a 35mm camera without using flash. I haven't looked at the Nikon CoolPix 5700 in detail, but a

Re: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses

2003-10-10 Thread Chris Brogden
On 9 Oct 2003 at 21:47, William Robb wrote: You can't make it a black and white issue. Agreed. I'd say that people who only use MF lenses and who have no intention of buying AF lenses don't really have any economic clout when they complain that new bodies won't support their 25 year old

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