Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2002-01-25 Thread Emile Bosch
Don't feed the troll.. Php [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On a conceptual level, I for one am a great fan of the kludge. Every piece of software is a trade off between performance and speed of development. You can have the fastest app in the

[PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Ben . Edwards
(From behind filing cabinet where I am ducking preparing for flames). Is it just me or is there anyone else that thinks PHP suffers from not being modular. Let me explain myself. If you write a module for a lot of procedural languages it sits on the filling system and is called up when it is

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread php
On a conceptual level, I for one am a great fan of the kludge. Every piece of software is a trade off between performance and speed of development. You can have the fastest app in the world for $1,000,000 in development time OR you can write up a in-elegant solution in 5minutes ($50) and if its

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Steve Edberg
At 4:48 PM +0200 10/4/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (From behind filing cabinet where I am ducking preparing for flames). Is it just me or is there anyone else that thinks PHP suffers from not being modular. Let me explain myself. If you write a module for a lot of procedural languages it sits

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates to false. That's not true. if(condition) include 'file'; That will only include the file if the condition is true. Very easy to verify for

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Ben . Edwards
] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates to false. That's not true. if(condition) include 'file'; That will only include the file

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Exelent, as I said I was playing devels advicate, I like PHP a lot, I am trying to get someone else to use it to and they came up with this stuff. if(condition) include 'file'; Is exactly what I was looking for. As 'if () {}' loaded, or at least parsed things I did'nt think another form

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
(From behind filing cabinet where I am ducking preparing for flames). Is it just me or is there anyone else that thinks PHP suffers from not being modular. It is just you and some other people similar to you. Thought this question was up for a while :-) PHP on the other hand seems to

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates to false. A quick check in the manual, it states that: Unlike include(), require() will always read in the target file, even if

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates to false. A quick check in the manual, it states

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread php
To: 'Opec Kemp'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates to false. A quick check in the manual, it states

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
conditionally load the function/files that you want then you should use include(). Was the implication of the poster I replied to. To the original I replied commenting each of his arguments, therefore I knew his points. Maxim Maletsky www.PHPBeginner.com -- PHP General Mailing List