Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-03 Thread Jason Wong
On Friday 02 July 2004 04:43, Peter Brodersen wrote: You could move the virtual host to its own file, only readable by root (and include this virtual host-file in httpd.conf). Use SetEnv in this virtual host to set values like DBUSER, DBPASS and so on:

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread - Edwin -
Hi, On Wednesday 30 June 2004 09:58, Bob Hockney wrote: Hi there, I wrote a php script that accesses a database, and I am wondering about securing the password to the database. I could prompt the user for the password every session, but I don't necessarily want the user to have the

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread - Edwin -
On Thursday 01 July 2004 02:17, Chris W. Parker wrote: Red Wingate mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:33 AM said: Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access the DB not a PW stored in the DB. you probably understand this already

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread - Edwin -
On Thursday 01 July 2004 08:25, Chris W. Parker wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:15 PM said: How can I use a password hash to log on to a database server (or for any other login for that matter)? i apologize. i completely misunderstood

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote - Edwin -: On Thursday 01 July 2004 02:17, Chris W. Parker wrote: Red Wingate mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:33 AM said: Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access the DB not a PW stored in the DB. you

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread Gerben
I think he is talking about the password that is written inside the script in the mysql_connect statement. I think he is worried that someone could access it's code and find out the DB password. One solution is to make the database only accessible from localhost (you could create a new user/pass

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread Bob Hockney
Gerben wrote: I think he is talking about the password that is written inside the script in the mysql_connect statement. I think he is worried that someone could access it's code and find out the DB password. What I am concerned about is a local user on the server machine, not access through

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread John W. Holmes
From: Bob Hockney [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think he is talking about the password that is written inside the script in the mysql_connect statement. I think he is worried that someone could access it's code and find out the DB password. What I am concerned about is a local user on the server

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Risdon
Bob Hockney wrote: Gerben wrote: I think he is talking about the password that is written inside the script in the mysql_connect statement. I think he is worried that someone could access it's code and find out the DB password. What I am concerned about is a local user on the server machine, not

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread Siddharth Hegde
Not really a direct solution, but anyways...You could use Turck MMCache to convert the code into bytecode. That way nobody can see the password, atleast not too easily. - Sid On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:28:57 +0100, Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Hockney wrote: Gerben wrote: I

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Brodersen
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:55:38 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hockney) wrote: What I am concerned about is a local user on the server machine, not access through the web server. It sounds like it can be done if there is a separate user or group for the web server process, but this site specific.

RE: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Chris W. Parker
Bob Hockney mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:58 PM said: I wrote a php script that accesses a database, and I am wondering about securing the password to the database. I could prompt the user for the password every session, but I don't necessarily want the user to

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Craig Donnelly
MD5 - http://ie2.php.net/md5 One way in encryption. Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Hockney mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:58 PM said: I wrote a php script that accesses a database, and I am wondering about securing the

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Red Wingate
Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access the DB not a PW stored in the DB. [...] MD5 - http://ie2.php.net/md5 One way in encryption. [...] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Chris W. Parker
Red Wingate mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:33 AM said: Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access the DB not a PW stored in the DB. you probably understand this already but for those who don't i would like to say: right, but the

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Red Wingate
even for the guy who wrote the source. it's allmost impossible to restore the data as the only option is a brute-force attempt. Chris W. Parker wrote: Red Wingate mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:33 AM said: Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password

RE: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Chris W. Parker
Red Wingate mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:29 AM said: even for the guy who wrote the source. it's allmost impossible to restore the data as the only option is a brute-force attempt. right so what is the point you're trying to make? c. -- PHP General Mailing

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread zeus
Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access the DB not a PW stored in the DB. Yes, this is what I am concerned about, access to the file by local users on the server. Hashes won't help me. -Bob -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Justin Patrin
You pretty much have to run the webserver / script as a certain user and give only that use read permissions to the file. On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:11:04 -0700 (GMT-07:00), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access

RE: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:11 PM said: Hashing ... but i guess he wants to protected the password needed to access the DB not a PW stored in the DB. Yes, this is what I am concerned about, access to the file by local users on the server.

RE: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread zeus
argh. just make the file readable by root and the user that runs apache/php and you're done. Which unfortunately is installation specific. I.e., if I am distributing a program and want to install a file which the user modifies to contain the passwords, I have to direct the user to manually

RE: [PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-30 Thread Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:15 PM said: How can I use a password hash to log on to a database server (or for any other login for that matter)? i apologize. i completely misunderstood your original post. in which case, i can think of only two

[PHP] Protecting database passwords

2004-06-29 Thread Bob Hockney
Hi there, I wrote a php script that accesses a database, and I am wondering about securing the password to the database. I could prompt the user for the password every session, but I don't necessarily want the user to have the password. Unless I'm missing something, any on-disk place I store