Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-09-02 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:53 AM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:21 PM -0400 8/30/08, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think making the URL RED would be a better warning than showing PUNYCODE -- but that's my opinion. Cheers,

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-09-01 Thread Robin Vickery
2008/8/30 Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tedd wrote: What some browser developers did was to NOT make the conversion from PUNYCODE to the correct code-points but rather show the PUNYCODE as-is, which was never the intent of the IDNS WG. This act defeated the entire process of allowing

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-09-01 Thread Per Jessen
Robin Vickery wrote: Firefox holds a whitelist of toplevel domains that are allowed to display unicode (to see the list go to about:config and enter IDN.whitelist into the filter box). It does not allow .com domains to contain unicode for obvious phishing reasons, Very interesting, I had

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-31 Thread tedd
At 2:21 PM -0400 8/30/08, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think making the URL RED would be a better warning than showing PUNYCODE -- but that's my opinion. Cheers, tedd Wait a minute - you're going to rail on for ever on another

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-31 Thread tedd
At 3:22 PM -0400 8/30/08, Andrew Ballard wrote: I was only contrasting tedd's current suggestion regarding how browsers could handle his Unicode domain names where he suggested color-coding the URL in the address bar against his earlier (well thought out and presented) concerns about maintaining

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-31 Thread tedd
At 8:37 PM +0100 8/30/08, Diogo Neves wrote: Well, i really really believe that urls should keep clear as water... http://forcaaerea.pt should exist, and not http://forçaaérea.pt... even because in reality its http://xn--foraarea-u0aw.pt Its a big mess... How to keep it clear? don't mess up

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-31 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote: In general terms What you see above and what you claim to be reality is actually PUNYCODE -- that is NOT what the url actually is. Hmm, the URL that is presented to the webserver is certainly in punycode - what the user sees depends on the browser. In my opinion they're both

[PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol? (was: Regex for email validation)

2008-08-30 Thread Per Jessen
Yeti wrote: That Rx.com domain name is really great stuff, but how do you expect the average user to type it in? Completely separate question - I finally managed to get to Tedds site, where I read this: The ℞symbol is a truly global icon for Pharmaceuticals. What Pharmaceutical company

[PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread tedd
At 1:30 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: I finally managed to get to Tedds site It's not that hard, try: http://rx-2.com And you said: Now, I haven't worked in pharmaceuticals, but I've worked in most European countries. So it's probably just me, but I've _never_ come across the Rx

[PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread tedd
At 1:20 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: I think the problem is mostly on the domain owner side though - if you register a domain for publishing something or other, but most of your intended audience cannot enter it in an easy, straight-forward way, you've only shot yourself in the foot,

[PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread tedd
At 1:23 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: tedd wrote: But as it is now, it's not so much IF the domain name is easy to type in or not, but rather does the Rx.com show up in the URL once you get there? And it does for most browsers other than IE. You can get to the site very easily, try

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote: At 1:30 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: I finally managed to get to Tedds site It's not that hard, try: http://rx-2.com Yeah, but that _only_ takes me to rx-2.com, nothing else? And you said: Now, I haven't worked in pharmaceuticals, but I've worked in most European

[PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread tedd
At 1:38 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: Interesting - I copy-pasted the Rx symbol (from your webpage) into FF and appended .com - and FF converted the URL symbol to xn--u2g.com. I guess FF only works with a limited subset of the many possible special characters. What is happening there is

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread tedd
At 5:29 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: Well, I guess - sort of. Just because something is Unicode does not make it global, in my opinion. In fact, I would argue that most of Unicode is _not_ global at all. Think about the alphabets such as: Arabic, Armenian, Bengali, Bopomofo, Cyrillic,

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:38 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: Interesting - I copy-pasted the Rx symbol (from your webpage) into FF and appended .com - and FF converted the URL symbol to xn--u2g.com. I guess FF only works with a limited subset of

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Diogo Neves
Your reply is a bit off-topic, and i agree u should care about all those with red/green color blindness, but u should care with all those how dislike spam too. Then, unless u know a really good alternative to a CAPTCHA, i believe its yet the better solution... PS: u can answer and discuse this on

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Diogo Neves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reply is a bit off-topic, and i agree u should care about all those with red/green color blindness, but u should care with all those how dislike spam too. Then, unless u know a really good alternative to a CAPTCHA, i

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Diogo Neves
Well, i really really believe that urls should keep clear as water... http://forcaaerea.pt should exist, and not http://forçaaérea.pt... even because in reality its http://xn--foraarea-u0aw.pt Its a big mess... How to keep it clear? don't mess up with your domains if you care about your clients

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote: At 5:29 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: Well, I guess - sort of. Just because something is Unicode does not make it global, in my opinion. In fact, I would argue that most of Unicode is _not_ global at all. Think about the alphabets such as: Arabic, Armenian, Bengali, Bopomofo,

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote: What some browser developers did was to NOT make the conversion from PUNYCODE to the correct code-points but rather show the PUNYCODE as-is, which was never the intent of the IDNS WG. This act defeated the entire process of allowing non-English people to have non-English domain

Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

2008-08-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tedd wrote: At 5:29 PM +0200 8/30/08, Per Jessen wrote: Well, I guess - sort of. Just because something is Unicode does not make it global, in my opinion. In fact, I would argue that most of Unicode is _not_ global at all.