Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-06 Thread Chris Shiflett
Andrew Hutchings wrote: I prefer prepared statements and would use them all the time if it wasn't for the fact that those queries aren't cached until recent versions of MySQL 5.1 Use PDO. It emulates prepared statements and doesn't avoid the query cache:

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-05 Thread tedd
At 11:23 AM -0400 7/4/07, Andrew Hutchings wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Mark Kelly) wrote: Hi. On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:01, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? Its written by Chris Shiflett, isn't that

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-05 Thread Chris Shiflett
Andrew Hutchings wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. Hollow claims are disrespectful and harmful to professional discourse. Perhaps you are motivated to persuade others that this is true and will do so at any cost, even if it means spreading misinformation. I'm aware of one person who

[PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Ross) wrote: http://amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/203-1671317-2810350?initialSearch =1url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=php+securityGo.x=0Go.y=0Go =Go looking at the top 3 on the list here, personally I quite like the O'Reilly books.

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Kelly
Hi. On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:01, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Mark Kelly) wrote: Hi. On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:01, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? Its written by Chris Shiflett, isn't that enough reason? -- Andrew Hutchings - LinuxJedi -

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 11:23 -0400, Andrew Hutchings wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Mark Kelly) wrote: Hi. On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:01, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? Its written by Chris Shiflett,

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Stut
Andrew Hutchings wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Mark Kelly) wrote: Hi. On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:01, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? Its written by Chris Shiflett, isn't that enough reason? There's no need

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Nathan Nobbe
this is getting good; i want to know why its *flawed* now too. no pressure :) -nathan On 7/4/07, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Hutchings wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Mark Kelly) wrote: Hi. On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:01, Andrew Hutchings wrote:

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]quickshift [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Nobbe) wrote: --=_Part_178329_18179255.1183569772294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline this is getting good; i want to know why its

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Jochem Maas
Andrew Hutchings wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]quickshift [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Nobbe) wrote: --=_Part_178329_18179255.1183569772294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline this is getting

Re[2]: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Richard Davey
Hi Andrew, Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 4:23:38 PM, you wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? Its written by Chris Shiflett, isn't that enough reason? No, not really. The errata are clearly published online, and while you could argue that some of them shouldn't have

RE: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread bruce
files be accessed by this user... so.. i ask again.. are you sure about this.. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:39 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: php security books In article [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RE: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Nathan Nobbe
the root user issue aside, i still dedicate a separate file in /var/log for my php apps. -nathan On 7/4/07, Andrew Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] (bruce) wrote: andrew... ¾ are you sure about this... i would have thought that if you have

Re: RE: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] (bruce) wrote: andrew... are you sure about this... i would have thought that if you have an apache user 'apache' and allow php to be run as/by 'apache' than this would providecomplete access to anything php needs to do as 'apache'. Logging

Re: RE: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]quickshifti [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Nobbe) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charsetãO-8859-1; format\owedContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline the root user issue aside, i still dedicate a separate file

Re: Re[2]: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Richard Davey) wrote: Hi Andrew, Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 4:23:38 PM, you wrote: Avoid the O'Reilly one as it is flawed. In what way? Its written by Chris Shiflett, isn't that enough reason? No, not really. The errata are

Re: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Mario Guenterberg
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 11:36:06AM -0700, bruce wrote: andrew... are you sure about this... i would have thought that if you have an apache user 'apache' and allow php to be run as/by 'apache' than this would provide complete access to anything php needs to do as 'apache'. this should

Re[4]: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Richard Davey
Hi Andrew, Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 8:29:51 PM, you wrote: I have no doubt he is a great bloke and a great public speaker / PR for PHP application level security, I apologise if it sounded like FUDing (why does that sound dirty?). I just don't like / agree with his book or some of the

Re: Re[4]: [PHP] Re: php security books

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Hutchings
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](Richard Davey) wrote: I actually agree with you about Ilia's book, it is the best of the three available (the Pro PHP Security one is certainly the worst), although there are areas where even Ilia basically shrugs his shoulders in the text and