Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread David Robley
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-11 02:20 AM, David Robley wrote: Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixhamnrix...@gmail.com wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really powerful templating engine that was v

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-11 03:49 AM, David Robley wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-11 02:20 AM, David Robley wrote: Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixhamnrix...@gmail.com wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:51, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: Yeah, that and some Gateway with a Common Interface. My point was that there is now and never was any such PHP project known as pre-hypertext preprocessor. It originated as Personal Home Page Tools (PHP Tools) and

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Shadle
Not to discredit this long post but the media here is now calling kids who text often hypertexting teens which really irked me even more... I bet some non-technical news guy thinks he is awesome for coming up with that one. On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread D. Dante Lorenso
On 11/11/10 12:04 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: Not to discredit this long post but the media here is now calling kids who text often hypertexting teens which really irked me even more...I bet some non-technical news guy thinks he is awesome for coming up with that one. LOL! I too thought those

RE: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Daniel P. Brown On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:51, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: Yeah, that and some Gateway with a Common Interface. So any language that could pre-process pre-hypertext would either have the unique ability to foresee the future, the mundane ability to

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread tedd
At 11:38 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 11:18 AM, tedd wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: I don't have to try them all, just the most popular. If the most popular doesn't work for me, then I don't need to try any

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread Nathan Rixham
Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 16:41, Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? I chose to write two of my own over the

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really powerful templating engine that was v familiar to use :p Pre-hypertext preprocessor? Perl? -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers, Cloud and Cloud

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread David Robley
Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really powerful templating engine that was v familiar to use :p Pre-hypertext preprocessor? Perl? Pre Hypertext Processor - the

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-11 02:20 AM, David Robley wrote: Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixhamnrix...@gmail.com wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really powerful templating engine that was v familiar to use :p Pre-hypertext

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 10:00 PM -0500 11/8/10, David McGlone wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 23:36 +0100, k...@bitflop.com wrote: IMHO - If you have to jump in and out of HTML and template syntax you might as well jump in and out of HTML and PHP. There is truth to this, but for me, its helping me learn in a

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 10:24 PM -0500 11/8/10, Matt Giddings wrote: I have to agree with David here. Smarty may be an added layer to the whole mix, but it makes maintaining the template and application much simpler. Much better than mixing html/php all together in a single file. That and a single template is

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 12:20 AM -0500 11/9/10, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Here's why I don't use a

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 12:23 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 12:20 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-09 11:18 AM, tedd wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: I don't have to try them all, just the most popular. If the most popular doesn't work for me, then I don't need to try any others. That's all well and good, but the argument

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 10:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: I don't have to try them all, just the most popular. If the most popular doesn't work for me, then I don't need to try any others. That's all well and good, but the argument being used is a generalization

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: At 12:23 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 12:20 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread knl
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:20:52 -0500 Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: Here's why I don't use a templating engine. First, You're taking an embedded language and writing a templating engine in it. Seriously? Second,

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Adam Richardson
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

[PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Hansen, Mike
I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 16:41, Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? I chose to write two of my own over the years: one procedural, one

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Staples
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:41 -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? for the longest time, i didn't know about them, and was breaking in and out of php,

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-08 04:51 PM, Steve Staples wrote: all of my projects now consist of smarty, pear mdb2, phpmailer, jquery, fpdf (if needed), and pchart (again, if needed). these are my personal choices, and I have been happy with them so far ;) pchart... *shudder*. I recently had to add support for

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Shadle
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? smarty is everyone's favorite usually but i find it a bit annoying.

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On 10-11-08 04:51 PM, Steve Staples wrote: all of my projects now consist of smarty, pear mdb2, phpmailer, jquery, fpdf (if needed), and pchart (again, if needed).   these are my personal choices, and I have been

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-08 05:02 PM, Bastien Koert wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Robert Cummingsrob...@interjinn.com wrote: On 10-11-08 04:51 PM, Steve Staples wrote: all of my projects now consist of smarty, pear mdb2, phpmailer, jquery, fpdf (if needed), and pchart (again, if needed). these

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Lind
On 8 November 2010 22:59, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them?

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Shadle
i would point someone in the direction of XHP too if they really wanted to https://github.com/facebook/xhp/wiki/ On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 November 2010 22:59, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Hansen,

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread knl
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:41:12 -0700 Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? PHP is in itself a template language and I find that the template

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread David McGlone
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 16:51 -0500, Steve Staples wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:41 -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? for the longest time,

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread David McGlone
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 23:36 +0100, k...@bitflop.com wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:41:12 -0700 Hansen, Mike mike.han...@atmel.com wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them?

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Matt Giddings
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:39 PM, David McGlone da...@dmcentral.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 16:51 -0500, Steve Staples wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:41 -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Here's why I don't use a templating engine. First, You're taking an embedded

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-09 12:20 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Here's why I don't use a templating

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Lind
On 9 November 2010 06:20, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Here's