[PHP] regular expression and forbidden words

2007-07-18 Thread Nicolas Quirin
Hi, i'm french, i'm using regular expressions in php in order to rewrite hyperlink tags in a specific way before apache output is beeing sent to client. Purpose is to replace href attribute of any A html tag by a javascript function calling an ajax loader. Currently I have wrote that:

Re: [PHP] Unlink file older then 7 days

2007-07-18 Thread chris
Ok thanks everyone... I need to throw in a wildcard, how would I do that.. I have this so far. which dont work. ? $filename = '/home/public_html/client/test/*.txt.asc'; $filename2 = '/home/public_html/client/test/*.txt'; if (file_exists($filename) filemtime($filename) time()-(7*24*60*60))

Re: [PHP] Selecting Rows Based on Row Values Being in Array

2007-07-18 Thread kvigor
This is working so far but I need to add an additional search. This is what I have so far: $in_list = '.join(',',$cen_chiefs).'; $query_cen_chiefs = SELECT * FROM central WHERE CONCAT(strName,' ',strCity,' ',strState) IN({$in_list}) ORDER BY conName; I also need the query to return records

Re: [PHP] Selecting Rows Based on Row Values Being in Array

2007-07-18 Thread kvigor
Hello Master Coders, This is working so far but I need to add an additional search. This is what I have so far: $in_list = '.join(',',$cen_chiefs).'; $query_cen_chiefs = SELECT * FROM central WHERE CONCAT(strName,' ',strCity,' ',strState) IN({$in_list}) ORDER BY conName; I also

Re: [PHP] Unlink file older then 7 days

2007-07-18 Thread Paul Scott
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 07:29 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to throw in a wildcard, how would I do that.. I have this so far. which dont work. foreach(glob(*.asc.txt) as $files) { unlink($files); } --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer

[PHP] Re: problem with pcode function

2007-07-18 Thread Darren Whitlen
Ross wrote: I have this postcode selector working on my localhost but remotely it gives a parse error. It should only call the function when the postcode is submitted. Any ideas? The error is: Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_NEW in

[PHP] regular expression and forbidden words

2007-07-18 Thread Nicolas Quirin
Hi, i'm french, i'm using regular expressions in php in order to rewrite hyperlink tags in a specific way before apache output is beeing sent to client. Purpose is to replace href attribute of any A html tag by a javascript function calling an ajax loader. Currently I have wrote that:

[PHP] Reading sub-elements using XML Reader

2007-07-18 Thread Don Don
I am reading the following xml data in a very large file using XML reader, the xml structure looks like the xample given below item enginehead/engine braketail/brake tireshead/tires chromespart head 1/chromes chromesPart head 2/chromes seatstail/seats /item item

[PHP] checking if extension loaded

2007-07-18 Thread Vanessa Vega
I have a function that creates a thumb file(thumbnail) and and an image file(preview pic) in php. It starts with: function ($picFile, $thumbFile, $imageFile) { if (extension_loaded('gd') { ..codes to create thumb and preview pic... else ..creating images failed } everytime

[PHP] Re: no default value

2007-07-18 Thread Man-wai Chang
E_ALL includes E_NOTICE which is off by default which is just plain daft, if you ask me... Thank you. -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.22.1 ^ ^ 17:52:01 up 6 days 19:56 1 user

Re: [PHP] Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread David Powers
Richard Lynch wrote: You probably have made far more from your book than most rock artists, and surprisingly more than some of the rock stars with particularly bad contracts, or who have only had one hit song. I'm glad you have such a high opinion of the earning power of my books. It is

[PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Man-wai Chang
I have a book case next to me that has three three-foot shelves filled with just php, mysql, javascript, css, ajax, html, and accessibility books. I could not function without my reference library -- that's why I hate job interviews. I could write a foxpro program in a short period of time

[PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Man-wai Chang
Now if I could flush my Foxpro memory and replace the brain cells with PHP books and manuals. :) Oh... forgot the mess of HTML, XML, Javascript and CSS. This one is a hard nut to crack -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce

RE: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Artificially created by the law, yes. [/snip] Just curious, if this artificiality did not exist what could an author's reasonable expectation be? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] text field truncation with sql server

2007-07-18 Thread Zoltán Németh
2007. 07. 17, kedd keltezéssel 19.48-kor Richard Lynch ezt írta: I lied. The URL *was* a typo. http;//php.net/ another typo ;) http://php.net/ greets Zoltán Németh Sheesh. Sorry folks! On Sun, July 15, 2007 5:02 pm, Bruce Cowin wrote: Thanks Richard for pointing me in the

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Stut
Larry Garfield wrote: Artificially created by the law, yes. All laws are artificial. I really don't know what you're trying to get at with this. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Creating a text file

2007-07-18 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/17/07, Ryan Lao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i made a simple PHP form that would ask for the users complete name, a button that would browse to a file that the user wants to upload, a text area for additional comments, and a submit button. This form works just fine. what i want to achieve next

Re: [PHP] PHP-5.2.3 and Internal Server Error

2007-07-18 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/18/07, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:06 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote: Run the same script with php CLI and see what it outputs. Goes through without a problem. Open the script in various editors to be sure there's no stray un-printable character in the

[PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Olav Mørkrid
consider the following statement: $language = isset($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE]) $_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] != ? $_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] : *; when using strings in arrays that may be non-existing or empty, you have to repeat the reference *three* times, which gets excessive and

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Arpad Ray
Olav Mørkrid wrote: consider the following statement: $language = isset($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE]) $_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] != ? $_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] : *; when using strings in arrays that may be non-existing or empty, you have to repeat the reference *three* times,

Re: [PHP] no default value

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
At 1:46 PM +0100 7/17/07, Stut wrote: ... but you can get some of the way there by enabling the display of notices which will tell you whenever a variable is used without being initialised. How? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com --

[PHP] simplexml_load_string();

2007-07-18 Thread Ross
$data = simplexml_load_string(file_get_contents($url)); Is there a php4 version of this or does this only work in 5? How can I get around it? R. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
At 10:26 PM +0100 7/17/07, Stut wrote: tedd wrote: Nope, I'm just saying that if you want my work, pay for it. If you get my work without paying, then you're stealing. You know, this is a pretty simple and obvious concept. I can imagine anyone arguing about it. -snip- There is no such

Re: [PHP] no default value

2007-07-18 Thread Stut
tedd wrote: At 1:46 PM +0100 7/17/07, Stut wrote: ... but you can get some of the way there by enabling the display of notices which will tell you whenever a variable is used without being initialised. How? Look in php.ini for error_reporting. With it enabled if you try to use a variable

[PHP] Save email as .eml file

2007-07-18 Thread Rosen
Hi, Is there a way to create e-mail with PHP and save it to .eml file (without sending)? Thanks, Rosen -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
At 6:02 PM -0400 7/17/07, Chris Shiflett wrote: Crayon Shin Chan wrote: What makes you think any of the authors are subscribed to this list? I'm subscribed. :-) Chris Chris: Yeah, but you're a successful author and understand why people shouldn't Pirate books. As such, your opinion

RE: [PHP] Save email as .eml file

2007-07-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Is there a way to create e-mail with PHP and save it to .eml file (without sending)? [/snip] Yes, there is a way. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=save+as+.eml -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread C.R.Vegelin
Hi OLav, what about this ? $language = isused($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE]); echo language is . $language; function isused($variable) { return isset($variable) $variable != ? $variable : *; } HTH, Cor - Original Message - From: Olav Mørkrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP General

Re: [PHP] About Website Search Engine

2007-07-18 Thread Nathan Nobbe
late follow up on this, but i was poking around php.net the other day and stumbled upon this: http://www.xapian.org/ -nathan On 7/6/07, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:34 PM -0700 7/5/07, Kelvin Park wrote: I'm trying to build a search engine for my website (with php), it will have

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Stut
tedd wrote: At 10:26 PM +0100 7/17/07, Stut wrote: tedd wrote: Nope, I'm just saying that if you want my work, pay for it. If you get my work without paying, then you're stealing. You know, this is a pretty simple and obvious concept. I can imagine anyone arguing about it. -snip- There

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
At 7:29 PM -0500 7/17/07, Larry Garfield wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007, tedd wrote: How you got from what I said to what you're pretending I said I do not comprehend. Try actually reading what I wrote before you accuse me of trying to destroy authors' livelihood, m'kay? It was not my intent

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Stut
C.R.Vegelin wrote: what about this ? $language = isused($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE]); This call will raise a notice if that array element does not exist. echo language is . $language; function isused($variable) { return isset($variable) $variable != ? $variable : *; } The isset is

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Olav Mørkrid
if the string is not set, you will get an undefined index error when calling isused(). that's just the problem. you can't reference an unset string without doing isset first, so putting isset inside the function is simply too late. On 18/07/07, C.R.Vegelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi OLav,

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Olav Mørkrid
rob, yes i thought of this, you could possible even do function magic($array, $name, $default=null ) { return isset($array[$name]) $array[$name] ? $array[$name] : $default; } $string = magic($_SERVER, HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE, *) however i wish php would have some built-in support to solve the

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Olav Mørkrid
i didn't know about empty. thanks! do you have a link to this new php 6 ? : convention? it would be great if php 6 could have a solution for this. php is sweet when it's compact! On 18/07/07, Arpad Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use empty() to take one of them out, since 0 is

[PHP] Session Issues with Certain ISPs

2007-07-18 Thread Mark Tuma
Hi, I have a fairly simple set of php scripts which use session variables to pass information from one page to the next in an online booking system for an event. In most cases these work fine, but users with a couple of ISPs are consistently unable to use the system, as the session variables

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread John Meyer
There is a very very important difference. Stealing/theft is a criminal offence. Copyright infringement is not. For you to be prosecuted for copyright infringement the injured party must bring a civil case. This is a fundamental difference. The reason everyone thinks the terms theft and

[PHP] Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstall 5.2.3

2007-07-18 Thread Stephan G
Hello. Please pardon the cross-post - I posted this on the php.install newsgroup a couple of days ago, but there has been no activity on that news group, and I see that other installation issues are posted here. I have tried to install the following on my Windows Vista Home Premium System:

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
tedd wrote: At 10:26 PM +0100 7/17/07, Stut wrote: Ok, this is really simple. Stealing is theft and theft is stealing. Infringing copyright is neither. Then, we disagree. I am always surprised as to how simple wrongful acts can be diminished with spin. We live in a world of political

[PHP] Re: Encrypted Mail

2007-07-18 Thread andrei
Please read the attachment to get the message. Attachment: No Virus found Norman AntiVirus - www.norman.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] LinkedIn Website

2007-07-18 Thread Daniel Brown
To those of you who got an invitation from me via LinkedIn, I apologize. Feel free to ignore them. There was a site glitch, apparently, while importing contacts from my Gmail account, which - instead of adding just a few specific contacts - added everyone in my contact list. And because of

Re: [PHP] repetition of tedious references

2007-07-18 Thread Jim Lucas
Olav Mørkrid wrote: consider the following statement: $language = isset($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE]) $_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] != ? $_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] : *; when using strings in arrays that may be non-existing or empty, you have to repeat the reference *three* times,

Re: [PHP] Re: Encrypted Mail

2007-07-18 Thread Tijnema
On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the attachment to get the message. Attachment: No Virus found Norman AntiVirus - www.norman.com In my mail(Gmail), there's no mail, I think it's blocked by the PHP list (maybe because of incorrect MIME-type?)

Re: [PHP] Re: Encrypted Mail

2007-07-18 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the attachment to get the message. Attachment: No Virus found Norman AntiVirus - www.norman.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Rut-roh,

Re: [PHP] Re: Encrypted Mail

2007-07-18 Thread Stut
Daniel Brown wrote: On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the attachment to get the message. Attachment: No Virus found Norman AntiVirus - www.norman.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

[PHP] Re: Reading sub-elements using XML Reader

2007-07-18 Thread Ben Schmidt
Have you considered using 'SimpleXML functions' or 'DOM functions' (not 'DOM XML functions'; they are old and klunky) to do it? They are simpler (particularly--you guessed it--SimpleXML). I can post you a brief example if you like, but you may well have no trouble. CC me personally if you want

Re: [PHP] double output from trigger_error from command line

2007-07-18 Thread Olav Mørkrid
sorry. still get it twice. c:\php -r error_reporting(E_ALL ^ E_NOTICE); trigger_error(\hello\, E_USER_ERROR); PHP Fatal error: hello in Command line code on line 1 Fatal error: hello in Command line code on line 1 - if i do error_reporting(0) then i get NO lines at all. and if i do

Re: [PHP] regular expression and forbidden words

2007-07-18 Thread Ben Schmidt
Nicolas Quirin wrote: Hi, i'm french, i'm using regular expressions in php in order to rewrite hyperlink tags in a specific way before apache output is beeing sent to client. Purpose is to replace href attribute of any A html tag by a javascript function calling an ajax loader. Currently

Re: [PHP] Session Issues with Certain ISPs

2007-07-18 Thread Jim Lucas
Mark Tuma wrote: Hi, I have a fairly simple set of php scripts which use session variables to pass information from one page to the next in an online booking system for an event. In most cases these work fine, but users with a couple of ISPs are consistently unable to use the system, as the

Re: [PHP] regular expression and forbidden words

2007-07-18 Thread Ben Schmidt
Nicolas Quirin wrote: Hi, i'm french, i'm using regular expressions in php in order to rewrite hyperlink tags in a specific way before apache output is beeing sent to client. Purpose is to replace href attribute of any A html tag by a javascript function calling an ajax loader. Currently

Re: [PHP] Re: Multiple Session Buffers

2007-07-18 Thread Al
The existing page had an include(file), before my CAPTCHA code, which included a session_destroy(). Thus, when the user refreshed the page with a Submit, it called the include(file) which destroyed the data I was trying to save in the session handler, from the previous page rendering. Anyhow,

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Tijnema
I didn't read the full thread (because it is 80 emails...) But really, it isn't special that these books are found on the net, and you really can't stop them, nor can the author of the book. With a quick search, I found these books related to PHP(all free to download): Beginning Ajax with PHP:

Re: [PHP] double output from trigger_error from command line

2007-07-18 Thread Instruct ICC
From: Olav Mørkrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] sorry. still get it twice. c:\php -r error_reporting(E_ALL ^ E_NOTICE); trigger_error(\hello\, E_USER_ERROR); PHP Fatal error: hello in Command line code on line 1 Fatal error: hello in Command line code on line 1 - if i do error_reporting(0) then i get NO

Re: [PHP] double output from trigger_error from command line

2007-07-18 Thread Instruct ICC
From: Instruct ICC [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Olav Mørkrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] sorry. still get it twice. c:\php -r error_reporting(E_ALL ^ E_NOTICE); trigger_error(\hello\, E_USER_ERROR); PHP Fatal error: hello in Command line code on line 1 Fatal error: hello in Command line code on line 1 -

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Crayon Shin Chan
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 22:12, Stut wrote: There is a very very important difference. Stealing/theft is a criminal offence. Copyright infringement is not. For you to be prosecuted for copyright infringement the injured party must bring a civil case. Actually whether it's civil or criminal

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Instruct ICC
From: Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't read the full thread (because it is 80 emails...) But really, it isn't special that these books are found on the net, and you really can't stop them, nor can the author of the book. With a quick search, I found these books related to PHP(all free to

RE: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Vo, Lance
Wow, this topic has been going on forever. Probably the longest I've seen. -Original Message- From: Instruct ICC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:51 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? From: Tijnema [EMAIL

RE: [PHP] simplexml_load_string();

2007-07-18 Thread Vo, Lance
Try to do a search in PEAR.PHP.NET I remember I've seen something like this for php4, but not sure where. Lance -Original Message- From: Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:41 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] simplexml_load_string(); $data

[PHP] Using PHP command line as a browser

2007-07-18 Thread Rick Lim
Hi there, Are there any good howtos for using php-cli as a progmatic browser. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] Xdebug 2 released.

2007-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
Hello! After almost four years of work, Xdebug 2 is finally ready. With improved functionality and many new features it is ready to totally change the way you develop in PHP. Some of the new features and updates include improved stack traces, execution traces to files, code coverage analysis

Re: [PHP] Xdebug 2 released.

2007-07-18 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/18/07, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! After almost four years of work, Xdebug 2 is finally ready. With improved functionality and many new features it is ready to totally change the way you develop in PHP. Some of the new features and updates include improved stack traces,

Re: [PHP] Xdebug 2 released.

2007-07-18 Thread Paul Scott
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 21:23 +0200, Derick Rethans wrote: Now head over to the Xdebug site [2] and try it out! I have been using the XDebug RC for a while now, and am really glad that it is now stable! Thanks very much, it is one of the most important bits in my toolbox.

Re: [PHP] Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstall 5.2.3

2007-07-18 Thread Alan Milnes
On 18/07/07, Stephan G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried to install the following on my Windows Vista Home Premium System: Ah I see the problem there Vista is not a mature OS yet - wait until at least SP1 before trying it. 1. How can I uninstall this and remove it from my

Re: [PHP] Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstall 5.2.3

2007-07-18 Thread Stephan G
Dear Alan: Thank you for your suggestion on wiping the disk and reloading the OS, which I imagine you might be suggesting because of your political feelings to Microsoft... which I don't think are wrong. However, this would not be a practical solution for me in any way, and this installer

Re: [PHP] Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstal

2007-07-18 Thread Instruct ICC
He did say or Win XP. I'll have to go back to find your original post to see if I can help. Well, from your subject, maybe you can use a System Restore point? --- If you need a stable, secure OS, get Ubuntu. If you need a stable, secure OS, and need new hardware, get a

Re: [PHP] Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstall 5.2.3

2007-07-18 Thread Stut
Stephan G wrote: Please pardon the cross-post - I posted this on the php.install newsgroup a couple of days ago, but there has been no activity on that news group, and I see that other installation issues are posted here. I have tried to install the following on my Windows Vista Home Premium

Re: [PHP] Persistent Objects

2007-07-18 Thread Wesley Acheson
On 7/18/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, July 15, 2007 2:25 pm, Wesley Acheson wrote: 1. Does the answer below mean no global persistant objects? (Application scope) I guess that it does. Pretty much, yes. PHP is more Unix-like in quickly spitting out an answer, rather than

RE: [PHP] Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstal

2007-07-18 Thread Instruct ICC
From: Stephan G [EMAIL PROTECTED] php-5.2.3-win32-installer.msi It has the following md5 sum, taken locally on my system: 4d042f649d9c264477e1b421c64c6435 I can confirm the same md5 sum. The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this package. This may

Re: [PHP] simplexml_load_string();

2007-07-18 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Ross wrote: $data = simplexml_load_string(file_get_contents($url)); Is there a php4 version of this or does this only work in 5? How can I get around it? There might be a user-space generic XML parser available somewhere, but nothing that will map directly to

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, tedd wrote: There is no such thing as copyright theft. There is such a thing as copyright infringement. No one is saying otherwise. Except you. I don't care what you call it, taking something that is not yours is stealing. False. If an employer hires you to

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, tedd wrote: And just because they do, doesn't make it any less accurate either. I don't care if Hitler agreed with me, there is a fundamental wrongful act of taking something that is not yours regardless of what you, and others, may call it. First Hitler and the

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 19:01 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: And here is the crux of the point that I've been making. Information is not property. Property cannot be duplicated ad infinitim. Yet! When you get down to it... 1s, 0s, and subatomic particles have a lot in common. Cheers, Rob. --

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Janet Valade
Larry Garfield wrote: And here is the crux of the point that I've been making. Information is not property. Property cannot be duplicated ad infinitim. Information can, by its very nature. The concept of theft does not apply. The concept of restricting the flow of information is

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread John Meyer
Larry Garfield wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2007, tedd wrote: And just because they do, doesn't make it any less accurate either. I don't care if Hitler agreed with me, there is a fundamental wrongful act of taking something that is not yours regardless of what you, and others, may call it.

RE: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] ...all manner of interesting debate... [/snip] What, exactly, is the difference between this particular brand of copyright infringement and taking the book from a bookstore without paying for it? Am I committing copyright infringement by standing in the store and reading the book? -- PHP

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Instruct ICC
First Hitler and the Nazis[1] reference. You lose! Thanks for playing. :-) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law Dang I didn't know that existed, thanks for the reference now I have something for all my other discussions. ROFLMAO

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
At 7:05 PM -0500 7/18/07, Larry Garfield wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2007, tedd wrote: And just because they do, doesn't make it any less accurate either. I don't care if Hitler agreed with me, there is a fundamental wrongful act of taking something that is not yours regardless of what you,

Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 22:57 -0400, tedd wrote: At 7:05 PM -0500 7/18/07, Larry Garfield wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2007, tedd wrote: And just because they do, doesn't make it any less accurate either. I don't care if Hitler agreed with me, there is a fundamental wrongful act of

RE: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?

2007-07-18 Thread tedd
At 9:19 PM -0500 7/18/07, Jay Blanchard wrote: Am I committing copyright infringement by standing in the store and reading the book? No, because that's allowed. The publisher and author has given their permission for the book to be sold in a customary and industry fashion, which includes

[PHP] Re: Error on installing under Windows Vista leads to inability to uninstall5.2.3

2007-07-18 Thread Stephan G
Many thanks to Alan, Instruct ICC, Stut, Edward, and Rahul... I have found the solution, along with an indication that there is a problem with the construction of the Installer for VISTA. In any event, here is a link with a description of the problem: