Re: subsistence cutworm
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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
Subject: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup Package: eclipse Version: 3.1.1-6 Severity: important *** Please type your report below this line *** apt-get install eclipse on up to date sid. Then just type eclispe. It craches at startup with this log in /home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/ : !SESSION Sat Dec 10 00:22:17 GMT+01:00 2005 !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.launcher 4 0 2005-12-10 00:22:17.507 !MESSAGE Exception launching the Eclipse Platform: !STACK java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter not found in org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main$StartupClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null} at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(java.lang.String[], java.net.URL[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.call_main() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) If you need more info juste ask me. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.14.2-3 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages eclipse depends on: ii eclipse-jdt 3.1.1-6Java Development Tools plug-ins fo ii eclipse-pde 3.1.1-6Plug-in Development Environment to ii eclipse-source3.1.1-6Eclipse source code plug-ins eclipse recommends no packages. -- no debconf information ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies
On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java libcommons-logging-java libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper shared-mime-info zenity Which means 195 MB on disk... eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this side. Same thing with mozilla-browser. The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations instead. And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed. In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome). Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace then you won't have much fun with Eclipse. I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch. ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java libcommons-logging-java libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper shared-mime-info zenity Which means 195 MB on disk... eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this side. Same thing with mozilla-browser. The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome. It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations instead. Is it a good idea to impose gnome to those who do not want it ? And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed. eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on its use... In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome). Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace then you won't have much fun with Eclipse. Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary restrictions on the use of the software. I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch. Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which are not upstream ? I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using debian ? -- Erwan ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342695: eclipse: debian/copyright file doesn't seem to be accurate anymore
On 12/9/05, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the package debian/copyright file, Eclipse seems to be released under the CPL. But eclipse.org website states that, from version 3.1 on, Eclipse has completed the migration[1] from the CPL to the EPL[2]. [1] http://www.eclipse.org/legal/cpl2epl/ [2] http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/epl-v10.html IIUC, you should update the debian/copyright file accordingly. Thank you for reporting this. Should be fixed in 3.1.1-7 Stephan Michels. ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument? ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument? Thanks for your quick answer. Same problem with eclipse -clean : !SESSION Sat Dec 10 16:55:40 GMT+01:00 2005 !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.launcher 4 0 2005-12-10 16:55:40.977 !MESSAGE Exception launching the Eclipse Platform: !STACK java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarte r not found in org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main$StartupClassLoader{urls=[], parent =null} at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6. 0.0) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean) (/usr/lib/libgc j.so.6.0.0) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0. 0) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(java.lang.String[], java.ne t.URL[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so ) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/ecli pse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/p lugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/ plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.call_main() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) Xavier ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies
On 10-Dec-05, at 8:53 AM, Erwan David wrote: The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome. Hi Erwan, I'm an SWT developer. The Program library is so that in Eclipse, when you right click on a file and go Open With System Editor, it will open the same application that Nautilus would (.txt - gedit, or whatever). As well, .C files will show the right icon the same as nautilus. Of course Eclipse works fine without this capability, but the feature won't work, and other SWT applications may depend on being able to get these icons and runnables (imagine writing a file browser in SWT!). So, at some point the dependency must be stated or moved to be a Recommends:. And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed. eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on its use... Eclipse uses an embedded browser in many places. The Help contents for example is an embedded Mozilla instance. If Mozilla is not found or not available, often there are fallbacks in Eclipse (you'll see some crappy white background with some icons instead of the full Intro), but some other Eclipse plugins _do_ depend on being able to embed mozilla. Consider the Eclipse web development plugins. Even the Javadoc view in Eclipse is an embedded Mozilla browser. Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary restrictions on the use of the software. I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch. Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which are not upstream ? I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using debian ? If we (Eclipse) could make these hard dependencies, I think we would. We have a horrible time trying to deal with distributions that don't provide GNOME or Mozilla embedding as part of the standard platform. Please consider how hard it is to ship software under Linux currently where we have to try and ensure we don't _completely_ die when Mozilla/GNOME aren't available. -Billy ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument? Thanks for your quick answer. Same problem with eclipse -clean : Can you please send the list of eclipse packages you have installed with dpkg -l | grep eclipse Thank you, Stephan Michels. ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument? Thanks for your quick answer. Same problem with eclipse -clean : Can you please send the list of eclipse packages you have installed with dpkg -l | grep eclipse Thank you, Stephan Michels. No pb. I'm sorry but I'm a eclipse/java devel beginner so I don't know what could help. ii eclipse3.1.1-6 Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE ii eclipse-jdt3.1.1-6 Java Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse ii eclipse-jdt-common 3.1.1-6 Java Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse (common files) ii eclipse-jdt-gcj3.1.1-6 Java Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse (GCJ version) ii eclipse-pde3.1.1-6 Plug-in Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-in ii eclipse-pde-common 3.1.1-6 Plug-in Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-in ii eclipse-pde-gcj3.1.1-6 Plug-in Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-in ii eclipse-platform 3.1.1-6 Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language ii eclipse-platform-common3.1.1-6 Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language ii eclipse-platform-gcj 3.1.1-6 Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language ii eclipse-rcp3.1.1-6 Eclipse rich client platform ii eclipse-rcp-common 3.1.1-6 Eclipse rich client platform (common files) ii eclipse-rcp-gcj3.1.1-6 Eclipse rich client platform (GCJ version) ii eclipse-source 3.1.1-6 Eclipse source code plug-ins ii libgcj6-src4.0.2-5j2 libgcj java sources for use in eclipse Xavier. ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:42:41PM +0100, Stephan Michels wrote: On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java libcommons-logging-java libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper shared-mime-info zenity Which means 195 MB on disk... eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this side. Same thing with mozilla-browser. The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations instead. And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed. In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome). Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace then you won't have much fun with Eclipse. I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch. I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install additional stuff that Eclipse not depends on. I prefer to do the first as it helps more users then the second option hurts. When we 'fix' this bug and downgrade the Depends to Recommends or Suggests we will get bug reports from users complaining that Eclipse doesnt work out of the box. Cheers, Michael -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:53:13PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java libcommons-logging-java libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper shared-mime-info zenity Which means 195 MB on disk... eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this side. Same thing with mozilla-browser. The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome. It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations instead. Is it a good idea to impose gnome to those who do not want it ? And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed. eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on its use... In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome). Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace then you won't have much fun with Eclipse. Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary restrictions on the use of the software. I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch. Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which are not upstream ? I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using debian ? You are wrong. The dependencies ARE upstream too. With the stuff missing Eclipse is just crippled. A not working help system (because the web browser is missing) is a good example for a broken application. Cheers, Michael -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No pb. I'm sorry but I'm a eclipse/java devel beginner so I don't know what could help. Your help is very appreciated. AFAICS your installation seems to be fine. ii libgcj6-src4.0.2-5j2 libgcj java sources for use in eclipse Interesting! Didn't know this one. Can you execute following line for me and send the logfile, maybe we can get more information by this. eclipse -consolelog -debug | tee eclipse.log Which architecture do you use? Thank you. Hi, searching for compatible vm... testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found Install location: file:/usr/lib/eclipse/ Configuration file: file:/usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/config.ini loaded Configuration location: file:/home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/ Configuration file: file:/home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/config.ini not found or not read Shared configuration location: file:/usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/ Framework located: file:/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.osgi_3.1.1.jar Framework classpath: Splash location: /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/splash.bmp runCommand: /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse-nameEclipse-showsplash600/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/splash.bmp runCommand: /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse-nameEclipse-exitdata3380004An error has occurred. See the log file /home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/1134251035166.log Start VM: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.0/classmap.db -Dosgi.locking=none -jar /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -launcher /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse -name Eclipse -showsplash 600 -exitdata 3380004 -install /usr/lib/eclipse -consolelog -debug -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java -vmargs -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.0/classmap.db -Dosgi.locking=none -jar /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar and of courses it still crashes. I'm running a basic i386 under an daily updated sid. I hope it is not only much ado about nothing because I used to use sun jre. I still have libjavaplugin_oji.so for instance (and firefox java plugin works just fine.) I have installed sun jre building these 2 pacakges : sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb + sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb There are unoffical ones but it was prior gcj arrives. Then, I have only apt-get install eclipse. I hope this helps Xavier. ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install additional stuff that Eclipse not depends on. I prefer to do the first as it helps more users then the second option hurts. When we 'fix' this bug and downgrade the Depends to Recommends or Suggests we will get bug reports from users complaining that Eclipse doesnt work out of the box. Cheers, Michael -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ So you want to oblige people to use the pile of crap that gnome is. MY freedom is also to NOT use software I think is ill designed and is a danger. You deny me this right. And you're a liar, I can download upstream eclipse without using mozilla (you oblige people to install obsolete sqoftware by the way..) nor gnome. Imposing gnome for the mime stuff is either a lie or the proof of blatant incompetency. Mime is handled through the mailcap and mime.types definitions and the debian package to handle them is mime-support. PS: I was evaluating debian for the desktops at my work. I must now say that I cannot suggest it for the developers, we'll stick with other dsitributions which let people free to choose not to use some software. -- Erwan ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
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