Re: subsistence cutworm

2005-12-10 Thread Pace Brannum

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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup

2005-12-10 Thread xavier . gnata
Subject: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup
Package: eclipse
Version: 3.1.1-6
Severity: important

*** Please type your report below this line ***

apt-get install eclipse on up to date sid.
Then just type eclispe. It craches at startup with this log
in /home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/
:

!SESSION Sat Dec 10 00:22:17 GMT+01:00 2005 
!ENTRY org.eclipse.core.launcher 4 0 2005-12-10 00:22:17.507
!MESSAGE Exception launching the Eclipse Platform:
!STACK
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter not found in
org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main$StartupClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String)
(/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean)
(/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String)
(/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(java.lang.String[],
java.net.URL[])
(/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(java.lang.String[])
(/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(java.lang.String[])
(/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(java.lang.String[])
(/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.call_main() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
   at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)

If you need more info juste ask me.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14.2-3
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages eclipse depends on:
ii  eclipse-jdt   3.1.1-6Java Development Tools plug-ins fo
ii  eclipse-pde   3.1.1-6Plug-in Development Environment to
ii  eclipse-source3.1.1-6Eclipse source code plug-ins

eclipse recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information


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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Stephan Michels
On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Package: eclipse
 Severity: normal

 sudo apt-get -u install eclipse
 Password:
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree... Done
 The following extra packages will be installed:
   dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde
   eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp
   eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring
   gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common
   libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java
   libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java
   libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java
   libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java libcommons-logging-java
   libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4
   libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0
   libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0
   libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java
   liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java
   libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java
   libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper
   shared-mime-info zenity

 Which means 195 MB on disk...

 eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this
 side. Same thing with mozilla-browser.

The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example
org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine
type and
icons etc. for a given file.

It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the
gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea
to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations
instead.

And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You
should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed.

 In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome).

Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace
then you won't
have much fun with Eclipse.

I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch.


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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait
 On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Package: eclipse
  Severity: normal
 
  sudo apt-get -u install eclipse
  Password:
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree... Done
  The following extra packages will be installed:
dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde
eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp
eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring
gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common
libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java
libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java
libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java 
  libcommons-logging-java
libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4
libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0
libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0
libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java
liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java
libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java
libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper
shared-mime-info zenity
 
  Which means 195 MB on disk...
 
  eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this
  side. Same thing with mozilla-browser.
 
 The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example
 org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine
 type and
 icons etc. for a given file.

False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome.

 It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the
 gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea
 to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations
 instead.

Is it a good idea to impose gnome to those who do not want it ?

 And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You
 should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed.

eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on its use...

  In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome).
 
 Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace
 then you won't
 have much fun with Eclipse.

Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary restrictions on 
the use of the software.

 I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch.

Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which are not
upstream ?

I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using debian ?


-- 
Erwan


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Bug#342695: eclipse: debian/copyright file doesn't seem to be accurate anymore

2005-12-10 Thread Stephan Michels
On 12/9/05, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 According to the package debian/copyright file, Eclipse seems to be released
 under the CPL.
 But eclipse.org website states that, from version 3.1 on, Eclipse has
 completed the migration[1] from the CPL to the EPL[2].

 [1] http://www.eclipse.org/legal/cpl2epl/
 [2] http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/epl-v10.html

 IIUC, you should update the debian/copyright file accordingly.

Thank you for reporting this. Should be fixed in 3.1.1-7

Stephan Michels.


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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup

2005-12-10 Thread Stephan Michels
Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument?


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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup

2005-12-10 Thread xavier . gnata
Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument?


Thanks for your quick answer.

Same problem with eclipse -clean :

!SESSION Sat Dec 10 16:55:40 GMT+01:00 2005 
!ENTRY org.eclipse.core.launcher 4 0 2005-12-10 16:55:40.977
!MESSAGE Exception launching the Eclipse Platform:
!STACK
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarte
   r not found in
org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main$StartupClassLoader{urls=[], parent
=null}
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.
   0.0)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean) (/usr/lib/libgc
   j.so.6.0.0)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.
   0)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(java.lang.String[], java.ne
   t.URL[])
(/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so
   )
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/ecli
   pse/plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/p
   lugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib/eclipse/
   plugins.gcj/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/startup.jar.so)
   at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.call_main() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
   at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)

Xavier


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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Billy Biggs


On 10-Dec-05, at 8:53 AM, Erwan David wrote:


The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example
org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine
type and icons etc. for a given file.


False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome.


  Hi Erwan, I'm an SWT developer.

  The Program library is so that in Eclipse, when you right click
on a file and go Open With  System Editor, it will open the
same application that Nautilus would (.txt - gedit, or whatever).
As well, .C files will show the right icon the same as nautilus.
Of course Eclipse works fine without this capability, but the
feature won't work, and other SWT applications may depend on being
able to get these icons and runnables (imagine writing a file
browser in SWT!).  So, at some point the dependency must be stated
or moved to be a Recommends:.

And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser  
widget. You
should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser  
is needed.


eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on  
its use...


  Eclipse uses an embedded browser in many places.  The Help contents
for example is an embedded Mozilla instance.  If Mozilla is not found
or not available, often there are fallbacks in Eclipse (you'll see some
crappy white background with some icons instead of the full Intro), but
some other Eclipse plugins _do_ depend on being able to embed mozilla.
Consider the Eclipse web development plugins.  Even the Javadoc view in
Eclipse is an embedded Mozilla browser.

Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary  
restrictions on the use of the software.


I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from  
Michael Koch.


Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which  
are not

upstream ?

I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using  
debian ?


  If we (Eclipse) could make these hard dependencies, I think we  
would.  We
have a horrible time trying to deal with distributions that don't  
provide

GNOME or Mozilla embedding as part of the standard platform.  Please
consider how hard it is to ship software under Linux currently where  
we have

to try and ensure we don't _completely_ die when Mozilla/GNOME aren't
available.

  -Billy




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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup

2005-12-10 Thread Stephan Michels
On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument?
 

 Thanks for your quick answer.

 Same problem with eclipse -clean :

Can you please send the list of eclipse packages you have installed
with dpkg -l | grep eclipse

Thank you, Stephan Michels.


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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup

2005-12-10 Thread xavier . gnata
Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Can you please try to execute eclipse with the -clean argument?
  
 
  Thanks for your quick answer.
 
  Same problem with eclipse -clean :

 Can you please send the list of eclipse packages you have installed
 with dpkg -l | grep eclipse

 Thank you, Stephan Michels.


No pb. I'm sorry but I'm a eclipse/java devel beginner so I don't know what
could help.

ii  eclipse3.1.1-6   Extensible Tool
Platform and Java IDE
ii  eclipse-jdt3.1.1-6   Java
Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse
ii  eclipse-jdt-common 3.1.1-6   Java
Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse (common files)
ii  eclipse-jdt-gcj3.1.1-6   Java
Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse (GCJ version)
ii  eclipse-pde3.1.1-6   Plug-in
Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-in
ii  eclipse-pde-common 3.1.1-6   Plug-in
Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-in
ii  eclipse-pde-gcj3.1.1-6   Plug-in
Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-in
ii  eclipse-platform   3.1.1-6   Eclipse
platform without plug-ins to develop any language
ii  eclipse-platform-common3.1.1-6   Eclipse
platform without plug-ins to develop any language
ii  eclipse-platform-gcj   3.1.1-6   Eclipse
platform without plug-ins to develop any language
ii  eclipse-rcp3.1.1-6   Eclipse rich
client platform
ii  eclipse-rcp-common 3.1.1-6   Eclipse rich
client platform (common files)
ii  eclipse-rcp-gcj3.1.1-6   Eclipse rich
client platform (GCJ version)
ii  eclipse-source 3.1.1-6   Eclipse source
code plug-ins
ii  libgcj6-src4.0.2-5j2 libgcj java
sources for use in eclipse


Xavier.


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Re: affiliated chargesheet

2005-12-10 Thread Kristine Quail

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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:42:41PM +0100, Stephan Michels wrote:
 On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Package: eclipse
  Severity: normal
 
  sudo apt-get -u install eclipse
  Password:
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree... Done
  The following extra packages will be installed:
dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde
eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp
eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring
gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common
libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java
libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java
libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java 
  libcommons-logging-java
libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4
libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0
libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0
libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java
liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java
libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java
libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper
shared-mime-info zenity
 
  Which means 195 MB on disk...
 
  eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this
  side. Same thing with mozilla-browser.
 
 The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example
 org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine
 type and
 icons etc. for a given file.
 
 It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the
 gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea
 to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations
 instead.
 
 And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. You
 should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed.
 
  In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome).
 
 Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace
 then you won't
 have much fun with Eclipse.
 
 I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael Koch.

I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or
just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of
the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install
additional stuff that Eclipse not depends on. I prefer to do the first
as it helps more users then the second option hurts. When we 'fix' this
bug and downgrade the Depends to Recommends or Suggests we will get bug
reports from users complaining that Eclipse doesnt work out of the box.


Cheers,
Michael
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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:53:13PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
 Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait
  On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Package: eclipse
   Severity: normal
  
   sudo apt-get -u install eclipse
   Password:
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree... Done
   The following extra packages will be installed:
 dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde
 eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp
 eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring
 gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common
 libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java
 libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java
 libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java
 libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java 
   libcommons-logging-java
 libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4
 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0
 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0
 libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java 
   liblog4j1.2-java
 liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java
 libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java
 libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper
 shared-mime-info zenity
  
   Which means 195 MB on disk...
  
   eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this
   side. Same thing with mozilla-browser.
  
  The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example
  org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine
  type and
  icons etc. for a given file.
 
 False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome.
 
  It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the
  gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea
  to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations
  instead.
 
 Is it a good idea to impose gnome to those who do not want it ?
 
  And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. 
  You
  should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed.
 
 eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on its use...
 
   In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome).
  
  Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace
  then you won't
  have much fun with Eclipse.
 
 Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary restrictions on 
 the use of the software.
 
  I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael 
  Koch.
 
 Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which are not
 upstream ?
 
 I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using debian ?

You are wrong. The dependencies ARE upstream too. With the stuff missing Eclipse
is just crippled. A not working help system (because the web browser is missing)
is a good example for a broken application.


Cheers,
Michael
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Bug#342789: eclipse: Eclipse crashes at startup

2005-12-10 Thread xavier . gnata
Quoting Stephan Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  No pb. I'm sorry but I'm a eclipse/java devel beginner so I don't know
 what
  could help.

 Your help is very appreciated. AFAICS your installation seems to be fine.

  ii  libgcj6-src4.0.2-5j2 libgcj
 java
  sources for use in eclipse

 Interesting! Didn't know this one.

 Can you execute following line for me and send the logfile, maybe we
 can get more information by this.
 eclipse -consolelog -debug | tee eclipse.log

 Which architecture do you use?

 Thank you.

Hi,

searching for compatible vm...
  testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found
Install location:
file:/usr/lib/eclipse/
Configuration file:
file:/usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/config.ini loaded
Configuration location:
file:/home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/
Configuration file:
   
file:/home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/config.ini
not found or not read
Shared configuration location:
file:/usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/
Framework located:
file:/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.osgi_3.1.1.jar
Framework classpath:
Splash location:
/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/splash.bmp
runCommand:
   
/usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse-nameEclipse-showsplash600/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/splash.bmp
runCommand:
/usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse-nameEclipse-exitdata3380004An error has
occurred.  See the log file
/home/gnata/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.1.1/configuration/1134251035166.log
Start VM: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
-Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni
-Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.0/classmap.db
-Dosgi.locking=none
-jar /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar
-os linux
-ws gtk
-arch x86
-launcher /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse
-name Eclipse
-showsplash 600
-exitdata 3380004
-install /usr/lib/eclipse
-consolelog
-debug
-vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
-vmargs
-Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni
-Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.0/classmap.db
-Dosgi.locking=none
-jar /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar

and of courses it still crashes.

I'm running a basic i386 under an daily updated sid.

I hope it is not only much ado about nothing because I used to use sun jre.
I still have libjavaplugin_oji.so for instance (and firefox java plugin works
just fine.)
I have installed sun jre building these 2 pacakges :
sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb + sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
There are unoffical ones but it was prior gcj arrives.

Then, I have only apt-get install eclipse.

I hope this helps

Xavier.



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Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait
 I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or
 just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of
 the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install
 additional stuff that Eclipse not depends on. I prefer to do the first
 as it helps more users then the second option hurts. When we 'fix' this
 bug and downgrade the Depends to Recommends or Suggests we will get bug
 reports from users complaining that Eclipse doesnt work out of the box.

 Cheers,
 Michael
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 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
 
 Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/

So you want to oblige people to use the pile of crap that gnome is. MY
freedom is also to NOT use software I think is ill designed and is a danger.

You deny me this right. And you're a liar, I can download upstream eclipse
without using mozilla (you oblige people to install obsolete sqoftware by the
way..) nor gnome.

Imposing gnome for the mime stuff is either a lie or the proof of blatant
incompetency. Mime is handled through the mailcap and mime.types definitions
and the debian package to handle them is mime-support.

PS: I was evaluating debian for the desktops at my work. I must now say that I
cannot suggest it for the developers, we'll stick with other dsitributions
which let people free to choose not to use some software.

-- 
Erwan


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