also sprach Norbert Preining <norb...@preining.info> [2017-06-03 00:12 +0200]:
> Then how are you planning to deal with this serious bug after
> years of inactivity?
Sounds like it might need ctte attention.
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quot; This is not, by any
> stretch, a technical argument. This is just being against change
> for the sake of it being a change.
Wrong conclusion. If you don't understand the value of being able to
consider more than just the technical side, then maybe Debian isn't
the right project for you.
s
when I leave the shell session:
http://git.madduck.net/v/etc/zsh.git/blob/HEAD:/.zsh/zshrc/99_TODO#l31
Please do not assume that everything is as simple as how you're
portraying it to be. Linux is a very very very diverse ecosystem and
it grew to be such as a function of the principle of
systemd-inhibit to start the
> command seems like the correct way.
To do this, I'd have to tell my backup server about all the machines
that use systemd, i.e. another place to track this information that
is inherently implicit in the systems.
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Package: systemd
Version: 228-2
Severity: minor
File: /lib/systemd/systemd-modules-load
Tags: upstream
systemd-modules-load also loads modules specified in
/usr/lib/modules-load.d, but this isn't documented in the manpage.
This is probably due to th split-usr approach.
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-load.d so that we the Debian
systemd maintainers are more flexible with respect to necessary
changes.
Otherwise, this remains a source of confusion for everyone using
split-usr.
Thanks,
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y we want to converge with upstream. For this to happen,
packages will need to stop using /usr/lib/modules-load.d and as
there is no real problem with using /lib/modules-load.d, I filed
this bug report.
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also sprach Michael Biebl [2015-09-09 21:09 +0200]:
> Can you post a minimal test case?
Sorry, this was with jessie (215-17+deb8u2), I have not tried this with sid.
# sudo -u backuppc env SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/backuppc/ssh-agent.sock DISPLAY=:0
also sprach Julian Wollrath jwollr...@web.de [2015-07-26 14:06 +0200]:
But that would assume, that findutils is installed. I do not known if
this is always the case.
It's essential, meaning we can rely on it.
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find /etc/systemd/network --name \*.link --exec cp -pt
$DESTDIR/lib/systemd/network/ {} +
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sysv-rc 2.88dsf-59
ii udev215-17
ii util-linux 2.26.2-2
Versions of packages systemd recommends:
ii dbus1.9.16-2
ii libpam-systemd 215-17
Versions of packages systemd suggests:
pn systemd-ui none
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-party-services over
convenience.
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even if you persuade me, you won't persuade me
Marco,
is your position unchanged?
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adhered to the principle of least surprise. In
this case, unless DNS is provided or configured, I'd consider it an
unpleasant surprise to find out that we are officially routing our
users through a commercial, 3rd party entity, whatever they're
called.
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. At
the moment, systemd upstream and Debian basically embrace Google and
require people who don't want that to do extra work. If that's
a direction to go, then shouldn't postfix also be configured by
default to relay mail via GMail?
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-in, but I also see the message all the time. Maybe
opt-in isn't working as planned?
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you raise the blade, you make the change
you rearrange me till i'm sane.
you lock the door, and throw away the key
get that irregardless whether
systemd-networkd is enabled/active or not.
What is the rationale for this choice? Why did you guys decide it
was best to log a warning every few seconds and require the admin to
take action to restore the old behaviour?
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-udevd[337]: Network interface NamePolicy=
disabled on kernel commandline, ignoring.
Oct 7 13:31:57 fishbowl systemd-udevd[337]: Network interface NamePolicy=
disabled on kernel commandline, ignoring.
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systemd suggests:
pn systemd-ui none
-- no debconf information
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ii udev208-8
ii util-linux 2.20.1-5.8
Versions of packages systemd recommends:
ii dbus1.8.6-2
ii libpam-systemd 215-3
Versions of packages systemd suggests:
pn systemd-ui none
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