Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/5/4, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com: Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all the other 13 standard fonts in good hinted truetype or similar form and the hack would go away imediatly. Until then we need to substitue the

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:45:16PM +0200, Tim van der Molen wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 07:31:39 +0200, Matthew Szudzik wrote: One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the /x11/msttcorefonts port. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=124141462930332 Perhaps

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Tim van der Molen
On Mon, 04 May 2009 07:31:39 +0200, Matthew Szudzik wrote: One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the /x11/msttcorefonts port. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=124141462930332 Perhaps the port should be updated, so that the configuration file is disabled

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Mon, 04 May 2009 07:31:39 +0200, Matthew Szudzik wrote: One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the /x11/msttcorefonts port. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=124141462930332 Perhaps the port should be updated, so that the configuration file is

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that They assume you will always have the microsoft core fonts installed, even though these basically ARE NOT open source. if i am not mistaken generic names like times, helvetica, courier, etc are used by more foundries, not only

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that They assume you will always have the microsoft core fonts installed, even though these basically ARE NOT open source. if i am not mistaken generic names like times, helvetica, courier, etc are used by more foundries, not

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 11:36:18AM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that They assume you will always have the microsoft core fonts installed, even though these basically ARE NOT open source. if i am not mistaken generic

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that You want the msttcorefonts ? install them... True, adding a fonts.conf snippet when you install them so they get used would make sense. if anything, openbsd should package a fonts.conf with the firefox package instead. and

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. now i will have to override an override to get the expected behaviour. since when is openbsd firefox's bitch? Your attitude is not very nice.

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that You want the msttcorefonts ? install them... True, adding a fonts.conf snippet when you install them so they get used would make sense. if anything, openbsd should package a fonts.conf with the firefox package instead.

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. i did not realize openbsd was developed for firefox. what i was trying to say, why should i

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. i did not realize openbsd was developed for firefox. what i was trying to say, why

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:47:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. i did not

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:26PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:47:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? I did

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:18:59PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all i am not blaming anyone. but the whole system is being changed because one application is misbehaving. it is not making a whole class of problems go

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:18:59PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all i am not blaming anyone. but the whole system is being changed because one application is misbehaving. it is not making a whole class of problems

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Steve Shockley
On 5/4/2009 2:12 PM, frantisek holop wrote: now i will have to override an override to get the expected behaviour. What's the expected behavior when you have both msttcorefonts and liberation-fonts installed?

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:58:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that if an application is broken, fix it or make a cludge in the package. this is the ports approach. where's the diffs? the diffs in the tree, only in the wrong directory. just put it in your home or install the (omg)

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:58:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that if an application is broken, fix it or make a cludge in the package. this is the ports approach. where's the diffs? the diffs in the tree, only in the wrong directory. just put it in your home or install the

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that I don't have to bring up any good reasons for some random person on the mailing lists feels entitled. this approach is broken. some random person on the mailing list slash ocasional contributor slash bug reporter slash

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Abel Camarillo
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:03:50AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that I don't have to bring up any good reasons for some random person on the mailing lists feels entitled. this approach is broken. some random person on

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 11:34:04PM -0500, Abel Camarillo said that as some random person on the mailing list you sure insulted me more times than i can remember. in my country that kind of trash talk implies you stand up to your words. man enough to say it into my eyes? hm? how

msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-03 Thread Matthew Szudzik
One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the /x11/msttcorefonts port. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=124141462930332 Perhaps the port should be updated, so that the configuration file is disabled when the port is installed.