Re: [THREAD CLOSED] Reject Chinese mail

2019-12-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
TOP-POST: This thread no longer has any relevance to Postfix, and has descended into ad-hominem. Before we have to start booting miscreants from the list, let's stop here. Thanks. > On Dec 7, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > >> Apparently you also don't speak English properly. Do

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-12-07 Thread Jos Chrispijn
On 21-11-19 6:42, Reto wrote: Apparently you also don't speak English properly. Do you want people to spam block the full .de domain because of that? Idiot -- With both feet on the ground you can't make any step forward

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-26 Thread @lbutlr
On 26 Nov 2019, at 19:00, 황병희 wrote: >> How about moving to Gmail(Google Apps)? Gmail's spam defense is not bad, i >> think. >> >> I disagree. It often labels mailing list email as spam, [...] > > Personally i read public mailing lists' messages by Gmane. Ugh. Just about the only reason I

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-26 Thread Wesley Peng
on 2019/11/27 10:00, 황병희 wrote: Personally i read public mailing lists' messages by Gmane. There is example screenshot [0]. So i have no problem about that. For customized spam policy, I found Tuffmail has a flexible interface. Regards.

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2019-11-26 Thread 황병희
Hello Jeffrey again^^^ > How about moving to Gmail(Google Apps)? Gmail's spam defense is not bad, i > think. > > I disagree. It often labels mailing list email as spam, [...] Personally i read public mailing lists' messages by Gmane. There is example screenshot [0]. So i have no problem about

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-24 Thread 황병희
Hello Jeffrey, > I don’t get the logic of this statement. [...] There are my several cousin brothers, friends over the world. So i can't block any regions. The word money is not money in the statement. Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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2019-11-24 Thread 황병희
> I don't block based on country but I do add some weighting in Spamassassin > for [...] Absolutely i agree with you Dominic, thanks^^^ Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 at 07:24, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 10:00, 황병희 wrote: > >> merr...@fn.de writes: >> >> > [...] do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from China? >> Thanks >> >> How about moving to Gmail(Google Apps)? Gmail's spam defense is not bad, i >>

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 10:00, 황병희 wrote: > merr...@fn.de writes: > > > [...] do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from China? > Thanks > > How about moving to Gmail(Google Apps)? Gmail's spam defense is not bad, i > think. I disagree. It often labels mailing list email as spam,

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2019-11-23 Thread 황병희
> By the way, you can find ASIA NETBLOCK on the internet and block them all > easily. My Postfix is running on Google Compute Engine's Ubuntu 18.04. Actually i do not block anyone, any clients, any ip addresses. #+BEGIN_SRC sh soyeomul@bionic190316003:~$ cat ~/.forward soyeomul+...@gmail.com

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread @lbutlr
On 20 Nov 2019, at 21:51, merr...@fn.de wrote: > We did get a lot of spam messages from Chinese providers. We speak not > Chinese, do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from China? > Thanks This is what I do: In crontab for root: @reboot bash -c 'pfctl -t badguys -T add $(cat

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread John Hudak
+1 E10. A colleague has dealt with them directly on technical/product and process issues and their business and product ethics when compared to ours, leave a lot to be desired. "blocking China is blocking money" => sell ones soul to the devil. On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 6:35 AM Rafael Azevedo

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Matthew McGehrin
Hello, There is a DNSBL maintained by bit.nl that allows you to block countries with relative ease. URL: https://noc.bit.nl/dnsbl/ascc/ IE: cn.ascc.dnsbl.bit.nl This zone contains data regarding the ISO3166 countrycode and BGP Autonomous System for any given IPv4 or IPv6 address. Every

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Wesley Peng
Or maybe block them by ESP? I saw there is a Perl module listing those big providers in China. https://metacpan.org/pod/Data::ChineseESP regards On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, at 7:33 PM, Rafael Azevedo wrote: > I've blocked the entire ASIA netblocks in my ASN. > We don't exchange any information with

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Rafael Azevedo
I've blocked the entire ASIA netblocks in my ASN. We don't exchange any information with that part of the world, neither any of our customers. All we get from that part of the world is DDoS attacks, brute force attacks and spam. Sorry for those who don't agree with me, its ok, but I got tired of

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Wesley Peng
I totally agreed with you @Rafa. btw, is there any good reputation, strict standard email hosting for suggestions? I currently use fastmail, it is good for personal usage, but I heard some privacy problems for commercial use. thanks. On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: >

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 23.11.2019 o godz. 10:59:24 황병희 pisze: > > How about moving to Gmail(Google Apps)? If someone is running their own mail server, do not ask them to move to Gmail. That's what the big players like Google want - that everyone uses their service and there are no more small, independent servers

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2019-11-22 Thread 황병희
merr...@fn.de writes: > [...] do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from China? Thanks How about moving to Gmail(Google Apps)? Gmail's spam defense is not bad, i think. Plus don't block China. Blocking China is blocking money. Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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2019-11-22 Thread Wesley Peng
SA (Spamassassin) is good idea, I saw most people running their own mail servers are using it. On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, at 4:35 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: > * merr...@fn.de: > > > We did get a lot of spam messages from Chinese providers. We speak not > > Chinese, do you think if it is possible to

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-22 Thread Ralph Seichter
* merr...@fn.de: > We did get a lot of spam messages from Chinese providers. We speak not > Chinese, do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from > China? SpamAssassin, which is often used in combination with Postfix, has a plugin called "RelayCountry" that allows you to change the

Re: It's all about risk and risk mitigation Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-21 Thread Fred Morris
One more thing... On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, Fred Morris wrote: Since I run my own mail servers I'm probably not a good person to ask. I don't find it particularly hard work. I set account limits, provide some tools and also disincentives to make safety and privacy the easier course and at the end

Re: It's all about risk and risk mitigation Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-21 Thread Fred Morris
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, Merrick wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, at 2:25 AM, Fred Morris wrote: I'll hazard that the reputation of particular domains whether they're TLDs or PseudoTLDs, registrars, or particular constellations of network infrastructure, is outside the scope of this list. There are

Re: It's all about risk and risk mitigation Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-21 Thread Merrick
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, at 2:25 AM, Fred Morris wrote: > > > > I'll hazard that the reputation of particular domains whether they're > TLDs or PseudoTLDs, registrars, or particular constellations of network > infrastructure, is outside the scope of this list. There are lists for the >

It's all about risk and risk mitigation Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-21 Thread Fred Morris
It's about risk versus reward. Never mind email. Let's say I'm an employer. They might all be perfectly fine people in Walmart land, but why do people on the network I control need to visit their web site? Is there any reason? Do we do business with them? I might not go to any great lengths

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-21 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 11/21/19 2:57 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Same as blocking an entire netblock or ISP because there are spammers within this netblock or using this ISP (but there are "good" senders there as well). Which is something a lot of email providers do, nevertheless. Given that ab...@example.com yields

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 21.11.2019 o godz. 07:51:20 Reto pisze: > > Blocking based on geolocation / domain endings is something I seriously > despise. > Email is decentralized for a reason, blocking huge portions of it due to > spammers abusing a few *is* evil in my opinion. Same as blocking an entire netblock

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-20 Thread Reto
On 21 November 2019 07:11:43 CET, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >Blocking mail by language risks false-positives and should be generally >avoided, but it is not evil. Blocking based on geolocation / domain endings is something I seriously despise. Email is decentralized for a reason, blocking huge

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-20 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 06:42:15AM +0100, Reto wrote: > Hm, didn't Germany learn its lesson yet somewhen in the 50s don't you > think? I don't think this is appropriate tone for the list[1]. Please refrain from similar ad-hominem in the future. Blocking mail by language risks false-positives

Re: Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-20 Thread Reto
On 21 November 2019 05:51:56 CET, merr...@fn.de wrote: >We speak not Chinese, do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from >China? Apparently you also don't speak English properly. Do you want people to spam block the full .de domain because of that? Think hard before you block 1.5

Reject Chinese mail

2019-11-20 Thread Merrick
We did get a lot of spam messages from Chinese providers. We speak not Chinese, do you think if it is possible to reject all mails from China? Thanks