Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread D'Arcy Cain
On 2019-11-26 7:56 a.m., Wesley Peng wrote: > If using plain port 25, the messages are not secure enough for traffic. > From what I know there is a technology calling Traffic hijacking. What makes one port number more or less secure than another? Security is based on what goes over the port, not

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread 황병희
> Is there any guide for it? For sending mail to public mailing lists, Gmane is good. Gmane keep your privacy all the time. Also MX is good to use Cloud VM such as AWS, Google Cloud Platform if you install Postfix. Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Bill Cole
On 26 Nov 2019, at 7:56, Wesley Peng wrote: Hi on 2019/11/26 20:53, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Sending mail out of a MTA is always on port 25. STARTTLS is used if possible. If using plain port 25, the messages are not secure enough for traffic. A rationally configured mail server in 2019

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
on 2019/11/26 19:27, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: ...and there's no "starttls" on 465, that's what I meant "implicit". while port 465 was assigned for SMTPS in January 2018, it's been used this way on many sites/services for years (even decades) On 26.11.19 20:50, Wesley Peng wrote: How the

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Wesley Peng
Hi on 2019/11/26 20:53, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Sending mail out of a MTA is always on port 25. STARTTLS is used if possible. If using plain port 25, the messages are not secure enough for traffic. From what I know there is a technology calling Traffic hijacking. Regards.

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 26.11.2019 o godz. 20:50:51 Wesley Peng pisze: > > How the traffic between big one's MTAs get through? > For example, gmail send messages to web.de via port 465 by SSL, or > just plain port 25? Sending mail out of a MTA is always on port 25. STARTTLS is used if possible. Ports 468/587 are

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Wesley Peng
Hi on 2019/11/26 19:27, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: ...and there's no "starttls" on 465, that's what I meant "implicit". while port 465 was assigned for SMTPS in January 2018, it's been used this way on many sites/services for years (even decades) How the traffic between big one's MTAs get

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
on 2019/11/26 17:02, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I would set up port 465 also. Note that TLS on 465 is implicit, while on 587 is explicit, so it's easier to allow unencrypted connections by a mistake on 587. On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, Wesley Peng wrote: 587 is also used for StartTLS, am I

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Bernardo Reino
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, Wesley Peng wrote: on 2019/11/26 17:02, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I would set up port 465 also. Note that TLS on 465 is implicit, while on 587 is explicit, so it's easier to allow unencrypted connections by a mistake on 587. 587 is also used for StartTLS, am I

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 26.11.2019 o godz. 10:23:09 Conz pisze: > > This makes it look like all mail is sent from the email server > itself and hides your client. I can't remember where I got the above > from but I found it somewhere, possibly even from this list. Isn't it simpler to just use a server-based email

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Conz
My 1 cent for privacy wise (assuming you're hosting on a VPS and not at home) Remove headers and your home IP with postfix: master.cf: under submission: -o cleanup_service_name=auth-cleanup auth-cleanup    unix    n   -   n   -   0 cleanup     -o

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Wesley Peng
on 2019/11/26 17:02, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I would set up port 465 also. Note that TLS on 465 is implicit, while on 587 is explicit, so it's easier to allow unencrypted connections by a mistake on 587. 587 is also used for StartTLS, am I right? regards.

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread lists
a privacy oriented mailserver On 25 Nov 2019, at 22:53, lists wrote: > Security is privacy. More precisely: Security includes privacy. Privacy is an essential *PART OF* security. The remit requested by the OP is really too broad to answer on a public mailing list intended for discuss

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.11.19 18:22, lists wrote: At a minimum, I would set it up to use port 587. I would set up port 465 also. Note that TLS on 465 is implicit, while on 587 is explicit, so it's easier to allow unencrypted connections by a mistake on 587. Then block via firewall all the email ports other

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread André Rodier
Hello, Wesley. The safest way is to have your own hardware, albeit there are some other options. Perhaps we can have a quick talk in the evening. My phone number: on Signal: +447511244961 Kind regards, André On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 14:36 +0800, Wesley Peng wrote: > That look interesting. Do you

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread Wesley Peng
That look interesting. Do you provide a hosting plan Andre? regards on 2019/11/26 14:31, André Rodier wrote: Hello, Bill. I had the same concern a few years ago. I have been self-hosting for more than a decade, and more recently, I built this: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox This

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread André Rodier
Hello, Bill. I had the same concern a few years ago. I have been self-hosting for more than a decade, and more recently, I built this: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox This is oriented towards security and privacy, and include defence mechanisms against remote and physical intrusion.

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Cole
On 25 Nov 2019, at 22:53, lists wrote: Security is privacy. More precisely: Security includes privacy. Privacy is an essential *PART OF* security. The remit requested by the OP is really too broad to answer on a public mailing list intended for discussion of a specific MTA (even though

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread lists
Security is privacy.   Original Message   From: postmas...@wsly.de Sent: November 25, 2019 6:25 PM To: li...@lazygranch.com; postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver Hi on 2019/11/26 10:22, lists wrote: > At a minimum, I would set it up to

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread Wesley Peng
Hi on 2019/11/26 10:22, lists wrote: At a minimum, I would set it up to use port 587. Then block via firewall all the email ports other than port 25 all countries from which you will not be using the server. Keep the attack surface small. For example don't provide for web based email.

Re: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread lists
...@wsly.de Sent: November 25, 2019 5:48 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver Hi community, I finally got a domain from registrar, if I want to run a privacy oriented mail server, what steps should I take? For example, setup SSL over all, SPF, DKIM

how to setup a privacy oriented mailserver

2019-11-25 Thread Wesley Peng
Hi community, I finally got a domain from registrar, if I want to run a privacy oriented mail server, what steps should I take? For example, setup SSL over all, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, DNSSec, DoH, encrypted storage, app special pasword, secondary authentication? Is there any guide for it?