Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Ben Wilson via Public
Would this work? Notwithstanding the foregoing, a CA MAY limit its liability to Subscribers or Relying Parties for legally recognized and provable claims to not less than: (1) one hundred thousand US dollars – aggregated across all claims, Subscribers, and Relying Parties – per EV

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public
Would you mind to show how it would sound now? :) Thanks, M.D. On 7/26/2017 2:14 AM, Ben Wilson wrote: And it should be an “and” or a “but”, but rephrased nevertheless. *Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP* VP Compliance +1 801 701 9678 *From:*Ben Wilson *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:11 PM

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Ben Wilson via Public
And it should be an “and” or a “but”, but rephrased nevertheless. Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP VP Compliance +1 801 701 9678 From: Ben Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:11 PM To: Ben Wilson ; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List ;

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Ben Wilson via Public
Never mind – I think I now see your point. Not “up to” it needs to be “not less than $5 million.” Would that make it clearer? Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP VP Compliance +1 801 701 9678 From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via Public Sent:

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public
With "and" I don't see its optional. Again, just to understand the model: is per EV certificate amount is NOT fixed whereas 12-month continuous amount is the only option ($5 mln.)? Thanks, M.D. On 7/26/2017 1:28 AM, Ben Wilson wrote: All of the provisions would provide optional caps that

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Ben Wilson via Public
All of the provisions would provide optional caps that CAs could place on EV liability. The 12-month $5 Million cap allows a CA to cap all EV liability to all those EV certificates issued within a single year. Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP VP Compliance +1 801 701 9678 From:

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Ryan Sleevi via Public
Moudrick, To make sure I understand - you're trying to understand whether you have to limit liability in both cases or neither case, correct? That is, you're reading it as your options are (A AND B) or NOT (A or B) By proposing "OR", I'm not sure it brings the clarity, if that's the case, since

Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability

2017-07-25 Thread Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public
Hi Ben, could it be "or" between (1) and (2)? Thanks, M.D. On 7/25/2017 11:59 PM, Ben Wilson via Public wrote: Here is another pre-ballot for discussion. *Ballot 209 - EV Liability* In Section 18 of the EV Guidelines, add the following sentences to the end of the first paragraph:

[cabfpub] Voting on Ballot 202 ends July 26 (tomorrow) at 22:00 UTC

2017-07-25 Thread Kirk Hall via Public
So far there are 14 votes - quorum is 11 votes, so quorum is met. ___ Public mailing list Public@cabforum.org https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters

2017-07-25 Thread Geoff Keating via Public
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:01 PM, Peter Bowen wrote: > > >>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Geoff Keating wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 25 Jul 2017, at 12:01 pm, Peter Bowen via Public >>> wrote: >>> >>> Erwann, >>> >>> Thank you for your

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters

2017-07-25 Thread Peter Bowen via Public
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Geoff Keating wrote: > > >> On 25 Jul 2017, at 12:01 pm, Peter Bowen via Public > > wrote: >> >> Erwann, >> >> Thank you for your detailed feedback and I appreciate you providing context >>

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters

2017-07-25 Thread Geoff Keating via Public
> On 25 Jul 2017, at 12:01 pm, Peter Bowen via Public > wrote: > > Erwann, > > Thank you for your detailed feedback and I appreciate you providing context > for your vote. > > With regards to reserved IP addresses, the definition in the current BRs > allows a CA to

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters

2017-07-25 Thread Erwann Abalea via Public
Bonsoir, DocuSign France votes No. While there are good clarifications around domain names, FQDNs, wildcards, and reserved labels, there are a few drawbacks: 1. Underscores in SAN:dNSName entries. It’s not the current BR that disallows underscores in dNSNames, it’s X.509 and RFC5280 (and

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters

2017-07-25 Thread Curt Spann via Public
Apple votes Yes. Curt > On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Ben Wilson via Public > wrote: > > Also, I have capitalized “Domain Name” in the definition of “Domain Label”, > as shown below and in the attached PDF document. > > On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Peter Bowen

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters

2017-07-25 Thread Neil Dunbar via Public
TrustCor votes ‘YES’ on Ballot 202 Neil ___ Public mailing list Public@cabforum.org https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public