Alex alex.gay...@gmail.com added the comment:
This is invalid, there's no bug. j doesn't get magically reinitialized to 0,
in fact this code would do the same thing in any language I can think of.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
I'm not sure why you use PyTuple_Size() and PyTuple_GetItem().
You should be able to do a first call to PyArg_ParseTuple() (using the S
specifier to mandate a bytes object), and call PyErr_Clear() and fallback to
the second PyArg_ParseTuple() if
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Now backported as part of issue 941346.
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Not sure that silencing errors from quit() is the right thing. Is there any
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Here is a simplified version.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Ok, I think you're right.
I've committed the patch to 3.3 in r88639 after having added a minimal test. Is
there a full name I should credit?
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Boštjan Mejak bostjan.me...@gmail.com added the comment:
Understood. Now I get it. If you create an instance c of the class C (so c
= C() ) and try to get the variable count from that class, then c.count is
the same reference as C.count.
Please make that clearer in the FAQ by saying If you
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Reopening and reverted the commit in r88640. The patch changes behaviour by
turning the previous unrooted filename ('libc.so.6') into a full path
('/lib64/libc.so.6'). This breaks builds where multiple versions of a library
are available and
New submission from Juraj Ivancic juraj.ivan...@gmail.com:
It seems that PyEval_InitThreads() can no longer be called before
Py_Initialize(). I get a fatal error in PyThreadState_GET().
This contradicts the documentation
http://docs.python.org/release/3.2/c-api/init.html#PyEval_InitThreads
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment:
Hi Alexandre,
I read your blog post, but I don't understand-- Why does bytecode need to be
pickled in order to pickle live generators? I understand that the local
variables need to be pickled, (and let's assume they're all pickleable,) and
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Given the way the new GIL works, I'm afraid it's not really possible to support
this (it needs some thread-state to be available).
Note that there is no reason, AFAIK, why you would want to call
PyEval_InitThreads() before Py_Initialize().
Charles-Francois Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0018
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Python crashes when dereferencing 0x0018, which is NULL + 24
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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:
From the path names in the trace you appear to have a MacPorts Python 2.7
installed. For what it's worth, the standard library test_time works for me
on OS X 10.6.6 with a current MacPorts 2.7.1 as well as a python.org 2.7.1.
Exactly how did you try
Steffen Daode Nurpmeso sdao...@googlemail.com added the comment:
11:12 ~/tmp $ python3 ~/usr/opt/py3k/lib/python3.3/test_zlib.py
Bus error
Your code snippet:
11:21 ~/tmp $ /usr/bin/time -lp python3 test.py
posix.stat_result(st_mode=33184, st_ino=10066605, st_dev=234881025, st_nlink=1,
Edoardo Spadolini keri...@gmail.com added the comment:
Not really, but putting something in your inheritance lattice only to mark a
class as providing an interface just doesn't seem right to me.
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Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com added the comment:
Attaching a patch adding copy() and clear() to bytearrays, with tests and doc.
I didn't add the methods to MutableSequence because I have a doubt about it -
in particular which exception get raised by .pop if it's empty. Curiously,
lists and
Charles-Francois Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
True with the following:
import time
time.asctime((2011, 2, 26, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0))
You'll get a segfault.
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New submission from akira 4kir4...@gmail.com:
Since Python 3.2 logging package doesn't support formatting flags for the
`asctime` keyword, but the documentation uses them. For example in
Doc/library/logging.rst:
FORMAT = '%(asctime)-15s %(clientip)s %(user)-8s %(message)s'
should be
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$ /opt/local/bin/python2.7
Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Dec 31 2010, 11:59:23)
[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5664)] on darwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import time
time.asctime((2011, 2, 26, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0))
'Mon
Charles-Francois Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
This explains why you don't get a segfault: your libc is broken ;-)
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The line with `LoggerAdapter` is not used in
http://docs.python.org/dev/howto/logging-cookbook.html#using-filters-to-impart-contextual-information
Here's a patch for Doc/howto/logging-cookbook.rst:
doc-logging-cookbook-unused-line-r88640.patch
Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:
If it's broken, complain to Apple.
$ otool -L $(/opt/local/bin/python2.7 -c 'import time;print(time.__file__)')
/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/time.so:
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
People may use SystemError for other purposes, but the docs are pretty clear it
is only for internal errors that indicate an interpreter bug:
http://docs.python.org/dev/library/exceptions.html#SystemError
Extension modules or an embedding
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New submission from Oliver Drake obdrak...@gmail.com:
Purely a modification to test_logging.py with the focus being to increase
coverage. coverage.py now measures 97% (when running test_logging.py by
itself). I'm not sure if I've followed py-dev unit test conventions exactly,
I've created
Steffen Daode Nurpmeso sdao...@googlemail.com added the comment:
I'll give you the same result again but with additional clock(),
just for a heart's pleasure:
clock(): 0.100958 , fstat(): posix.stat_result(st_mode=33184, st_ino=10075508,
st_dev=234881025, st_nlink=1, st_uid=502, st_gid=20,
Charles-Francois Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
If it's broken, complain to Apple.
Actually, I checked glibc's asctime, and it has the same behaviour. But the
point is that asctime can return NULL.
That still doesn't explain the OP's crash on OS X 10.6.6.
Yes it does. If
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
New patch including a check for PyObject_GetBuffer()'s return value, the
missing declaration of HAVE_SETHOSTNAME in pyconfig.h.in, and a test for giving
a bytes values to the function.
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New submission from Daniel Urban urban.dani...@gmail.com:
Currently instances of classes which inherit an ABC in collections.abc will
have a __dict__. This can be a problem for example a tree-like data structure.
It would make sense to inherit for example MutableMapping, but that would
Charles-Francois Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
I updated my local svn checkout, and the code has been fixed recently:
r87648 | alexander.belopolsky | 2011-01-02 15:48:22 -0500 (Sun, 02 Jan 2011)
| 1 line
Issue #8013: Fixed time.asctime segfault when OS's asctime fails
Daniel Urban urban.dani...@gmail.com added the comment:
In what use-cases would you want to call MyABC.register() when defining
a class instead of inheriting from MyABC?
For example if you don't want to inherit a __dict__ for a tree-like data
structure (see also issue11333).
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:43:06PM +, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:
r88586: Normalized the encoding names for Latin-1 and UTF-8 to
'latin-1' and 'utf-8' in the stdlib.
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Updated patch with extra tests.
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Raymond Hettinger wrote:
Raymond Hettinger rhettin...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
If you agree, Raymond, I'll backport the patch.
Yes. That will address Antoine's legitimate concern about making other
backports
Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk added the comment:
No, tests as top level modules work fine too. Importability is the only
requirement. (Projects themselves are not typically packages but contain
packages - so the wording needs to change slightly but I like the rest.)
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It still fails under AMD64 OpenIndiana:
==
ERROR: test_offset_overflow (test.test_os.TestSendfile)
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(socket.error, EOFError) after quit() indicates that the socket is
disconnected, in which case we should not raise any error (or at least, this is
the approach we're using in ftplib) while all other NNTPError related errors
are not
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Unless there's a way to automatically call close() when a dispatcher instance
is no longer referenced (and I can't think of anything to do that) I'd say we
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What about Doc/whatsnew/3.3.rst?
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Real patch is the first hunk of attached file. Other 2 hunks are optimizations..
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Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
BTW, there was no entry in Misc/NEWS, so this was not in whatsnew/3.2.rst.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
What about Doc/whatsnew/3.3.rst?
This is filled by Raymond (or other people) when the release nears.
No need to care about it in regular commits.
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Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
I was unclear. distutils.sysconfig does not play a role in the startup of
python anymore. My question was: does
distutils.sysconfig._get_makefile_filename have the same bug as the one that
was fixed in sysconfig._get_makefile_filename?
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Ok, so the root cause is that sendfile() under Solaris can fail with EINVAL
when the offset is past the end of file (but only on 64-bit builds, strangely
:-)). Here is a patch, tested under Linux, 32-bit OpenSolaris and 64-bit
OpenSolaris. It
Vinay Sajip vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
Fix checked into py3k and release32-maint (r88644). Support was reinstated -
the docs weren't changed.
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Some missed doc changes.
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Fix checked into py3k and release32-maint (r88645), thanks.
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Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
Shouldn’t there be a regression test for this?
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
It seems we have a failure on Leopard:
I think the issue is you request a 4096 transfer near the end of file, but
there aren't that many bytes remaining. Apparently OS X then doesn't transfer
anything and returns 0. Hint:
10485760. / 4096
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
The section about os.environb talks about unencoded bytes and unencoded
environment variables instead of undecoded.
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Should be fixed in r88647.
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only first hunk is really the patch. 2 next hunks are optimizations.
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= ORIGINAL ===
$ ./qwe.py 10
read length: 10
read data: xx
should read test. read: test
$ ./qwe.py -10
read length: -10
read data: xx
should read test. read: test
= PATCHED ===
$ ./qwe.py 10
read
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Vinay Sajip vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
Thanks for doing this, I appreciate the effort you've put into it. My comments:
1. Each test class ought to be independent, but they aren't - for example, if I
comment out all of your test classes other than LoggerTest, it fails.
2. I try
Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com added the comment:
I fail to see the bug here. Python's getpass.py is mimicing the
behavior of getpass.c
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Fix checked into release32-maint (r88651).
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Vinay Sajip vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
There should, and I'm looking at some additional tests suggested for inclusion
in #11332. I'll mark the issue as pending to remind me to ensure that the test
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Merlijn van Deen valhall...@gmail.com added the comment:
No, I do not, for several reasons.
First of all, this is not a change *from* previous behaviour, but a change
*back to* previous behaviour. And sensible behaviour, too.
Secondly, I have tested what getpass does on windows (Python 2.7.1
Alexandre Vassalotti alexan...@peadrop.com added the comment:
The value of the instruction pointer depends on the byte-code. So it's not
portable either.
But, the bigger issue is the fact generator objects do not have names we can
refer to, unlike top-level functions and classes which pickle
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Regression test added to py3k and release32-maint (r88654). I just had to
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Ross Lagerwall rosslagerw...@gmail.com added the comment:
The patch looks good.
Just to be clear, on my system running autoreconf adds the correct stuff to
pyconfig.h.in
Isn't it best to leave it up to the committer to generate configure and
pyconfig.h.in, especially since different autoconf
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
The patch looks good.
Just to be clear, on my system running autoreconf adds the correct
stuff to pyconfig.h.in
Ah, strange. I used autoconf and it didn't...
Isn't it best to leave it up to the committer to generate configure
and
Ross Lagerwall rosslagerw...@gmail.com added the comment:
Ah, strange. I used autoconf and it didn't...
From the man page of autoreconf:
Run `autoconf' (and `autoheader', `aclocal', `automake', `autopoint'
(formerly `gettextize'), and `libtoolize' where appropriate) repeatedly
to
Daniel Stutzbach stutzb...@google.com added the comment:
+1. I've bumped into exactly this problem
(https://github.com/DanielStutzbach/blist/issues/closed#issue/29)
I'm not intimately familiar with how __slots__ works. Are there any drawbacks
to adding an empty __slots__ to the ABCs?
Daniel Stutzbach stutzb...@google.com added the comment:
Sounds good to me. Thanks for the clarifications and satisfying my curiosity!
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Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment:
*generator objects do not have names we can refer to*
How about referring to the generator function that created them and to all the
arguments?
Regarding instruction pointer, I really don't know the internals of how this
works. Can we make
New submission from dave de...@gmx.de:
hi community,
i cannot import multiprocessing since it fails(?) during build.
could someone point out a solution for me?
thanks a lot in advance.
dave
$ python
Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Feb 26 2011, 17:19:29)
[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5664)] on
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In list.sort, if a key function throws an exception, the memory to store the
keys is never freed. I introduced the bug in r86937. I'll upload a patch for
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Daniel Stutzbach stutzb...@google.com added the comment:
Below is a link to the code where leak occurs and the patch goes:
http://svn.python.org/view/python/branches/py3k/Objects/listobject.c?view=markuppathrev=88554#l1944
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Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
Alexandre,
Do the considerations against pickling apply to deep copying? It would seem
that copying bytecode and pointer within a run should be ok.
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Filip Gruszczyński grusz...@gmail.com added the comment:
First draft of patch with this functionality. Test, patch and docs are
included. I'll gladly work further on this, so I would appreciate some advice
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Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Committed in r88652 (3.3) and r88655 (3.2). Unfortunately, Paul's buildbot
seems a bit stuck in a previous build...
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Giampaolo Rodola' g.rod...@gmail.com added the comment:
Patch in attachment set source_address attribute and updates doc.
It still keeps using support.find_unused_port() which is also used in
test_socket.py though [1], so it shouldn't cause problems.
New submission from blokeley bloke...@gmail.com:
I think that a typographical error was made in patch.rst.
Should (do not that not all checks apply to non-core developers)
read (note that not all checks apply to non-core developers)?
Patch attached.
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I can't find a reference to footnote [1] on page 6. Simple Statements in
Language Reference. Either the footnote should be removed or a [1] link to it
should appear on the page.
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New submission from blokeley bloke...@gmail.com:
Recently, I've logged a few issues on http://bugs.python.org/ and tried to
submit patches where possible.
However, I have not been able to find any documentation that states where the
hg repositories are. There are some under
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Thank you for the suggestion. We are actually starting our official transition
to hg, which makes things a bit unstable.
The final URL (http://hg.python.org/cpython/) is currently a test repo, while
the usable for work right now
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You cannot make a self-referential annotation like
class Graph:
def reverse(self) - Graph:
# ...
This corresponds to a common coding situation.
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test_compressed_deprecated failed
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Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:
Thanks for the patch, but the wording was completely changed a little while ago
so the error has been dealt with.
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resolution: - out of date
status: open - closed
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Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:
This has been true forever. I suggest you try python-ideas.
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resolution: - rejected
status: open - closed
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