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Similar to Issue43167, there already is a mechanism to do that: on the
"Installation Type" window of the macOS installer app sequeence, select
"Customize" and then deselect the "UNIX command-line tools" package. Another
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There already is a mechanism to do that: on the "Installation Type" window of
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"Shell profile update" package. Another option is to use the macOS "in
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> The change to re-enable the previously crashing test will first be released
> in 3.9.2
It's also in the recently-released 3.10.0a5 release preview.
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> was it tested on macOS 11.2 ?
> Tests fail there with Python 3.9.1
The change to re-enable the previously crashing test will first be released in
3.9.2 and AFAICT no longer causes a crash. There are other Tk-related test
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> This can be observed by using the python 3.9.1 universal2 installer and using
> it on
> x86_64 Big Sur or with Rossetta 2 on arm64 Big Sur.
When not manually setting SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1, I cannot reproduce this
behavior on current Big Sur (11.1
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Thanks for the report. This behavior has been reported in open issue
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It is certainly not good that some of the vfx users are seeing a crash. On the
other hand, at this stage of Python 3.7's life cycle only security-related
fixes are accepted as a primary goal is to keep 3.7 as stable and unchanged as
possible for those users
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> What exactly is the backport status for this issue, and is there anything
> with more info for this user?
Python 3.6 has been in the security-fix-only phase of its life cycle since
2018-12 which means that python.org binary installers for Mac or W
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> Seems that we are getting the same libffi.dylib.
I suppose it is still possible that another libffi is being found first. To be
absolutely sure, you could ask dyld to print the loaded libraries:
$ DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 python3.9 test_main.py
[...]
d
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Yes, otool should work. Something like:
$ otool -L $(python3.9 -c 'import _ctypes;print(_ctypes.__file__)')
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/lib-dynload/_ctypes.cpython-39-darwin.so:
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I tried your test programs on a M1 Mac running macOS 11.1 with the latest macOS
universal2 Pythons available from python.org
(https://www.python.org/downloads/), 3.9.1 and 3.10.0a4, and both produced the
same (correct) result as in your 3.8 example. Are you
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Also note that there are known problems with using the "fork" start method of
multiprocessing on macOS. As of Python 3.8, the default start methord on macOS
is now "spawn":
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> I am running macOS Big Sur Version 11.1 on Silicon and still get the error
> about the missing lzma.h file.
Unfortunately, Apple does not include the XZ library with macOS so, to build
that module, you will need to supply a copy from another source,
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Thanks, Ronald and others. I have done some testing now with macOS 11 Big Sur
and retested on 10.15 Catalina and with various versions of Tk and what I am
seeing is as follows.
- On macOS 11.1 Big Sur with IDLE.app from the python.org 3.9.1 universal2
installer
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As Ronald notes, as of 3.9.1, we are for the immediate future providing two
macOS installer variants: the traditional 10.9+ Intel-64 variant that is built
on 10.9 and includes Tk 8.6.8 and the new "experimental" 10.9+ "universal2"
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bpo-42692: fix __builtin_available check on older compilers (GH-23873)
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/eedeaef1f22d27264ce9b031da80fe2485e85e69
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/76489dd2998ac70ffb300d612792a7238c03438c
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bpo-42584: Update macOS installer to use SQLite 3.34.0 (GH-23674)
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> Should I do something with this now or just wait for updates?
I'd wait for a Homebrew recipe update.
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If you are not using Tcl and Tk framework builds installed in /Library, you use
the configure or make options:
--with-tcltk-includes='-I...'
override search for Tcl and Tk include files
--with-tcltk-libs='-L
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> I have tried to update tcl-tk with the homebrew, but in command line I see 8.5
> Could you please help me to fix this tcl-tk problem?
You should check with the Homebrew project; we have no insight into or control
over their packaging choices. Goo
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Note also that Python 3.7 is now in the security-fix-only phase of its
lifecycle meaning it no longer receives non-security bug fixes and binary
installers for it will no longer be produced. In particular, Pygthon 3.7 has
not been updated for macOS 11 and Apple
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This is the same sort of crash of a Homebrew Python as reported in Issue42480
and the root cause is the same: the Homebrew recipe is allowing building and
linking with the known faulty and deprecated Apple-provided system Tcl and Tk
8.5.9 frameworks. It needs
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@fxcoudert: If you are trying to link with the Apple-provided system Tcl and Tk
frameworks, don't. They have been seriously broken since macOS 10.7 and stuck
at Tk 8.5.9. The only visible Apple action has been to deprecate them. Any
Python on macOS that claims
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As explained above, this crash will happen with any Python that links to the
deprecated Apple-supplied system Tk framework in macOS versions from macOS 10.7
to 11 Big Sur. If you want to use tkinter, you need to use a Python that links
to a newer version of Tk
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> Which version of TK 8.5.X fixes this, 8.5.18.0?
Yes, that version of Tk 8.5 does not have this problem. But Tk 8.5 is no longer
supported by the Tcl project; we recommend the use of Tk 8.6. In general, you
usually cannot just swap Tk versions; the Pyt
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The problem here undoubtedly is that the Python you are using is linked with
the Apple-provided system version of Tk 8.5.9 which exhibits this nasty
behavior of crashing when pressing a composing key. The system version of Tk is
woefully out of date with other
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> Any reason this wasn't backported to 3.6?
Just an oversight. Thanks for pointing it out.
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bpo-40791: Make compare_digest more constant-time. (GH-23438) (GH-23767)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8bef9ebb1b88cfa4b2a38b93fe4ea22015d8254a
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bpo-42598: Fix implicit function declarations in configure (GH-23690) (GH-23757)
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bpo-42598: Fix implicit function declarations in configure (GH-23690) (GH-23756)
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> Are there plans to backport PR 22855 to any branches older than 3.9?
The plan is to also support 3.8 on Big Sur and Apple Silicon as 3.8 is still in
bugfix mode. There are no plans to backport support to 3.7 and 3.6 which are
in the security-fix-only ph
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Also, I have seen test_socket hang like this in the past on Debian when
building with older versions of openssl 1.1.0. If possible, try upgrading to a
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[3.9] bpo-41116: Fix setup.py test for macOS Tcl/Tk frameworks (GH-23649)
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I agree that moving forward (using an unreleased 8.6.10+ snapshot) is better
than moving backwards (back to 8.6.9). Perhaps Marc or Kevin can suggest Tcl
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OK, thanks for the clarification, Terry. Considering that our tkinter tests
make assumptions about the underlying Tk widgets behavior, assumptions not
necessarily shared by the Tk developers :), these kind of version-dependent
failures are a risk
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I agree with Ronald that it would be safest if the sysconfigs (all of them)
always returned deployment target as a string and I would be fine with a PR
that did that. That doesn't mean that the already applied PR needs to be
changed, though, right? Just extra
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> It might be the tk/tkinter build, not the tests, that is at fault.
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Thanks for checking, Kevin. Is there any update on when we can expect a Tk
8.6.11? It's been over a year now since 8.6.10 and there have been so many
macOS-related changes that have gone into Tk since then. It's really not fair
to ask downstream packagers, like
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I tested on 3.9 with the backport of GH-23474 merged. The six failures are
still there plus there is now an additional failure:
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FAIL: test_horizontal_range
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additional macOS universal2 installer variant that, for various reasons,
provides a built-in version of Tcl/Tk 8.6.10, instead of 8.6.8 as has been
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If Homebrew links against the Apple-supplied Tcl and Tk frameworks, which are
in /System/Library/Frameworks, all bets are off as those are deprecated and
hopelessly out-of-date versions of Tcl/Tk 8.5. If tkinter is linked to Tcl and
Tk frameworks in /Library
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binaries from python.org. The tests, including tkinter tests, run similarly to
how they do on 11.0.1
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Do your tests use the multiprocessing module? As of 3.8, the default start
method for multiprocessing on macOS was changed from “fork” to “spawn”:
https://docs.python.org/3.8/library/multiprocessing.html#contexts-and-start-methods
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Ned Deily added the comment:
New changeset 96d906b144e6e6aa96c5ffebecbcc5d38034bbda by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.9':
bpo-41100: in test_platform, ignore 10.16 (GH-23485) (GH-23486)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/96d906b144e6e6aa96c5ffebecbcc5d38034bbda
Ned Deily added the comment:
New changeset c0c23ea72b76b06b7db0d09415fa90bab8ded63a by Ned Deily in branch
'master':
bpo-41100: in test_platform, ignore 10.16 (GH-23485)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/c0c23ea72b76b06b7db0d09415fa90bab8ded63a
Change by Ned Deily :
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pull_requests: +22372
pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/23485
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