[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2015-08-28 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Changes by Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com: -- resolution: - wont fix stage: - resolved status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2015-04-02 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
Changes by Jean-Paul Calderone jean-p...@clusterhq.com: -- nosy: -exarkun ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___ ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2014-09-24 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: It's not a duplicate. -- status: pending - open ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___ ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2014-09-22 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
Changes by Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com: -- status: open - pending ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___ ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 03.08.2013 00:47, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: Does a result of one and one half seconds make sense as the result of a floor division operation? Yes. Timedeltas behave as integers containing the number of

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Mark Dickinson
Mark Dickinson added the comment: I think that's a very obscure interpretation of floor division for timedeltas :-) Agreed. -- nosy: +mark.dickinson ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: What is so special about seconds? Why not days? As in timedelta(3) // 2 timedelta(1) Note that in 3.x we have timedelta over timedelta division that lets you do floor division in arbitrary time units. What is the use case for timedelta // int that

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Mark Dickinson
Mark Dickinson added the comment: I'm not sure I see a use-case for timedelta // int at all. To make sense of that, you first need some way to make sense of floor(timedelta), and as you say it's not clear what that should mean: number of seconds? number of days? Either of those would seem

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Mark Dickinson
Mark Dickinson added the comment: -1 on changing the behaviour in 2.7, though; I think it's far too late for that. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 03.08.2013 18:32, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: What is so special about seconds? Why not days? As in timedelta(3) // 2 timedelta(1) Note that in 3.x we have timedelta over timedelta division that lets

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Tim Peters
Tim Peters added the comment: Well, a timedelta is a duration. timedelta // n is as close as possible to one n'th of that duration, but rounding down (if necessary) so that the result is representable as a timedelta. In the same way, if i and j are integers, i // j is as close as possible

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment: I think that's a very obscure interpretation of floor division for timedeltas :-) Note - I don't care about this. I just want `timedelta / int` to do the same thing in Python 2.7 with __future__.division as `timedelta / int` does in Python 3. Please

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: There are two schools of thought here. One school (MAL and Mark) thinks of durations as real number of seconds. The other school (Tim and I) think of durations as integer number of resolution intervals. This is why I and Tim before me resisted adding

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: I just want `timedelta / int` to do the same thing in Python 2.7 with __future__.division as `timedelta / int` does in Python 3. It other words you want to backport timedelta / int true division. I am afraid it is 3-4 years too late for this request,

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-03 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: This issue is effectively a duplicate #1083 (see msg101281.) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
New submission from Jean-Paul Calderone: datetime.timedelta instances are divisible by integers on Python 2.7, but not when __future__.division has been turned on: exarkun@top:~$ ~/Projects/cpython/2.7/python -c ' from datetime import timedelta print timedelta(seconds=3) / 2 ' 0:00:01.50

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: You're just looking for floor division: $ python -Qnew Python 2.7.4 (default, Apr 19 2013, 18:28:01) [GCC 4.7.3] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. 1/2 0.5 from datetime import timedelta print timedelta(seconds=3) // 2

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment: Hm. Maybe I am. Yet isn't true division implemented for this pair of types in Python 3? I'm not sure why it shouldn't be implemented for them in Python 2. Also that raises another question. Does a result of one and one half seconds make sense as the

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Madison May
Madison May added the comment: I agree -- it's not at all intuitive that the floor division returns a decimal number of seconds, while float division raises an error. This should probably be cleaned up. In python 3.4, both float division and integer division return decimal numbers of

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr: -- nosy: +belopolsky, lemburg ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18629 ___ ___

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: I believe this is related to the fact that timedelta * float is not supported in 2.x: Python 2.7.5 (default, May 24 2013, 15:56:16) [GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from

[issue18629] future division breaks timedelta division by integer

2013-08-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: Does a result of one and one half seconds make sense as the result of a floor division operation? Yes. Timedeltas behave as integers containing the number of microseconds: timedelta(microseconds=1) / 2 datetime.timedelta(0) --