[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Mark Dickinson added the comment: Steven: I've made a PR at https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/30174. Does this match what you had in mind? -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Mark Dickinson added the comment: > "The mean is strongly affected by outliers and is not necessarily a typical > example of the data points. For a more robust, although less efficient, > measure of central tendency, see median()" That wording sounds fine to me. I don't think we can

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Guido van Rossum added the comment: Great! I will leave it to Steven and Mark D to work out an acceptable solution. PS. Allen Downey is a computer scientist who has written at least one book about Python. -- ___ Python tracker

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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Steven D'Aprano added the comment: Prompted by Guido's reopening of the ticket, I have given it some more thought, and have softened my views. Jake if you're still around, perhaps there is more to what you said than I initially thought, and I just needed fresh eyes to see it. Sorry for

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Guido van Rossum added the comment: Couldn't we just change the first occurrence of "central location" in the note to "a central location" and the second to "(different) central locations"? That would leave Steven's intention intact but satisfy those who read it as referring to *a single*

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Steven D'Aprano added the comment: Sorry Raymond, I missed this before closing the task. > FWIW, Allen Downey also had concerns about this wording. I don't recognise the name, who is Allen Downey and what concerns does he have? -- ___ Python

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Steven D'Aprano added the comment: I'm willing to give Irit and Jake opportunity to make their case. Particularly if they can demonstrate that I got my facts wrong. I'm going to close the ticket, but if anyone feels strongly enough to respond with a good argument, or better still citations

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Steven, you are the module maintainer. So if you're sure about the current wording, go ahead and close this. -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: FWIW, Allen Downey also had concerns about this wording. -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Steven D'Aprano added the comment: I strongly oppose this change, and I dispute the characterisation of this as a misleading note. It is not misleading, and I argue that every word of it is factually correct. Jake, if you disagree, then please provide some citations. Irit: it is ridiculous

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

Irit Katriel added the comment: I agree with Jake's comment, but I think the solution is to remove that Note altogether. This document is a software manual, not a statistics textbook, and as such it should just state clearly what the statistics module does. If someone doesn't know whether

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

New submission from Jake: In the statistics module documentation, there is a note that states that The mean is strongly affected by outliers and is not a robust estimator for central location: the mean is not necessarily a typical example of the data points. For more robust, although less

[issue23522] Misleading note in Statistics module documentation

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