[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Barry A. Warsaw added the comment: More rationale from the thread: The surprising part is that it also happens for explicit relative imports. I'm guessing that part was unintentional and simply not noticed when PEP 328 was implemented. No, that must also have been intentional, because

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
New submission from Barry A. Warsaw: As described here: http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=20150422115959.1ff2ee58%40limelight.wooz.org Importing a submodule binds the submodule's name in the parent module's namespace. This is surprising, but it seems intentional and it's relied

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Barry A. Warsaw added the comment: From Guido: It's definitely intentional, and it's fundamental to the package import design. We've had many implementations of package import (remember ni.py? last seen as knee.py) and it was always there, because this is done as part of *submodule loading*.

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Eric Snow
Eric Snow added the comment: Guido describes the global invariant for *all* the forms of importing a submodule, including explicit relative imports: I just mean that for relative import there is no need to bind the submodule to the parent, is there? But there *is* a reason. The submodule

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Barry A. Warsaw added the comment: Here's some new text for the Language Reference. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file39175/issue24029-1.txt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue24029

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 3968e7a9614c by Barry Warsaw in branch '3.4': Issue #24029: Document the name binding behavior for submodule imports. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/3968e7a9614c New changeset 351ad8c4f3a6 by Barry Warsaw in branch '3.4': Issue #24029: Document

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Barry A. Warsaw added the comment: Cool, thanks! I'll commit it and we can always clean it up/add to it later if needed. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue24029 ___

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Changes by Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org: -- resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue24029 ___

[issue24029] Surprising name binding behavior of submodule imports needs documenting

2015-04-22 Thread Eric Snow
Eric Snow added the comment: LGTM. You've covered all the key points and the example is good. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue24029 ___