[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: This is not going to go anywhere for the present. -- assignee: -> terry.reedy resolution: -> rejected stage: -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker

[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

Mark Roseman added the comment: While the thing about asking for a favourite colour before switching to advanced mode was a joke, I do sincerely believe that extensive progressive disclosure techniques should be used to keep much of IDLE's features and options hidden out of the box. If the

[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: In general, users and instructors are demanding more options, not less. This is correct. I teach Python classes using IDLE. It does NOT need to be dumbed down (people has notepad for that). The API can be made more usable but I am against this

[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

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[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

Steven D'Aprano added the comment: Sounds patronizing. Whether used for beginners to programming or experts, IDLE (or any other application) should start with sensible defaults. As much as possible, it should usefully start without requiring extra configuration. But beyond that, actively

[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: In general, users and instructors are demanding more options, not less. 'extensions' could be renamed 'plug-ins'. The current system could use some rethinking, since the choice between a feature being 'built-in' versus a 'built-in extension' is at least

[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

New submission from Mark Roseman: To facilitate using IDLE to learn Python, and perhaps as a first experience with programming altogether, and taking advantage of the fact that IDLE comes with Python out of the box, I propose the following: 1. A new learning mode be introduced to Python. We

[issue24810] UX mode for IDLE targeted to 'new learners'

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