[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Alexander Boeckmann added the comment: So over the past week the issue resolved its self. I unfortunately did not get a video or a screenshot but thought you might want to know this So maybe Apple did something or you guys fixed it. Anyways, have a good day! --

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Ned Deily added the comment: > Would taking a video help? It couldn't hurt and might very well help. > I'll make one anyways Thank you! -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Alexander Boeckmann added the comment: Hey! I have the exact same thing as described happening! Python freezes when I try to save new files which sucks. I'm on Catalina: 10.15.6 IDLE: 3.8.5 Brand new MacBook Air As said earlier the only way out is to force quit. Would taking a video help?

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Ned Deily added the comment: James, thanks very much for your detailed instructions. Alas, once again, I am unable to reproduce the hanging behavior under apparently similar conditions (10.5.6, Documents folder on iCloud, etc). I know this is frustrating to all of us. I have one new

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

James Franks added the comment: Hope this helps: I'm running Python Shell 3.8.5 on MacOSx 10.15.6 (Catalina). I can reproduce this hang easily. Open any existing module or create a new one. Can save the existing module or a new one just fine under the same name. (File menu - Save) Using

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: By 'preview', I meant the listing of existing file in the directory, such as Documents. IDLE displays this but, as I inferred and you and Bev confirmed, this is not standard on macOS, as there is a button (which I did not noticed before) to show or hide

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Ned Deily added the comment: >To debug, and test Raymond's hypothesis, someone please try this minimal >(IDLE-free) code to show the dialog and print the return. >This does not display a preview, even after selecting a location, such as >Documents, on the 3rd line. Terry, I'm not sure I

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Raymond, can you run the tests I suggested above? -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Mat Wichmann responded "we had three of these in the last few weeks sent to webmas...@python.org. I just went back and pinged those folks with a request to look in on the issue, and contribute to it if they had anything new/useful to add." --

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I asked about other people's experiences on python-list and got 2 responses so far. --- On macOS The default Save/Save as dialogs are short, only displaying a few major folders along with Favorites and Recents. That dialog doesn’t display folder contents.

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: What is acting up here is the Catalina system SaveAs dialog on some systems with some settings when closing after being asked to display the current contents of the target location, allow the content to be variously filtered or not, and add a default

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: When I click Full Disk Access in Mohave, I see an empty box with a Header something like "All app to access Mail, ..., and all user data". None of it has anything obviously to do with the user Documents folder. Nor does it seem appropriate for a

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Zain Said added the comment: Ned, I do not use DropBox nor do i have Desktop & Documents Folders checked under my iCloud settings. Someone else in the community reached out to me and suggested that if IDLE is acting up its not worth the hassle. And that they're alternatives. I came a

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Ned Deily added the comment: That enabling FullDiskAccess makes a difference makes some sense but that is not something we should be recommending without better understanding what's going on here. We still need a reproducible test case; I still am not able to reproduce. Raymond, your hint

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Zain Said added the comment: I posted my issue on Experts Exchange and they suggested to go to system preferences>Security>go to privacy tab on the top>scroll down to Full Disk Access>Add IDLE and Python>then check off the box next to it> Since then my issue with IDLE not being able to

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Zain, do you happen to be working in a Dropbox synced directory when you observe the failure? -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Zain, what I understand is: > python3.8 -m idlelib # To open idle from Terminal In IDLE, File=>New, then File=>SaveAs In dialog opened to Documents, enter name in Save As box, then click Save. For me 2012? Macbook Air with 10.14.6? Mohave and 3.8.3rc1, dialog

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Zain Said added the comment: The screenshot link is at the top of the thread -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Zain Said added the comment: Sure i'll supply a screenshot This problem doesn't effect saving in general after editing existing programs by the way. My process of saving a program: - I'll open IDLE (Python 3.8.2) - write anything at all - I'll either hit command>s or click file>save as

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Ned Deily added the comment: Zain and/or Raymond: can you please give the exact steps to reproduce this problem, including exactly how you invoke IDLE, the Python version info and build date info from the IDLE shell window, the details of exactly how you invoke Save As (i.e whether via

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Perhaps we could create an option in the general settings that offers a workaround: open a regular text window to get the filename. This wouldn't be as pretty (won't display filenames, offer mouse support, won't show file previews), but it would be

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: I frequently have this issue as well. My workaround is awful: I go to the terminal prompt to create an empty file with the desired name, and then open it up in IDLE to edit and save. This avoids the SaveAs dialog window that triggers the failure.

[issue40553] Python 3.8.2 Mac freezing/not responding when saving new programs

New submission from Zain Said : What I'm currently using: Mid 2012 13'' MacBook Pro OS Catalina 10.15.4 Python 3.8.2 I'm having an issue with saving a new python program. When I go to "save as" a program python seems to freeze/not . The only way I've been able to get python working again is