[issue8406] Make some setup.py paths exclude-able

Matthias Bussonnier added the comment: > [2 nice response] Thanks for the nice responses, we all know it can be hard to find the right balance between making a concise comment, and being delicate enough. Thanks all for your hard work on CPython, and looking forward to have time to

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R. David Murray added the comment: No, no trouble. We appreciate Carol's efforts! As you say, any changes can be reversed; we prefer that people exercise triage privileges and make mistakes than that they feel too cautious to do anything. If our tone came across as confrontational that was

[issue8406] Make some setup.py paths exclude-able

Matthias Bussonnier added the comment: > We regularly close issues that are 1+ year old on Jupyter/IPython or rescope > the issue to be actionable for contribution. Sorry if me doing that on IPython/Jupyter recently have put you (willingc) in a bad position in here, sincere apologies, you are

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Carol Willing added the comment: Fair enough. Ronald and David, I respect your suggestions and thoughts, and I will not triage or close old issues. FWIW, I was trying to be helpful. We regularly close issues that are 1+ year old on Jupyter/IPython or rescope the issue to be actionable for

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R. David Murray added the comment: Heh, that should have been "only close an old issue that hasn't been otherwise resolved if...". -- ___ Python tracker

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R. David Murray added the comment: Right. Only close an issue if there is an existing open issue that addresses the topic better. Age alone is never a criteria for closing issues. Since Ronald agrees the other issue is enough we'll leave this closed, but it wouldn't be crazy to reopen it

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Ronald Oussoren added the comment: Did you create that new issue? If not this feature request will likely be forgotten. Hmmm... Issue7713 appears to be good enough for remembering that there is a problem with the way setup.py looks for libraries. --

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Carol Willing added the comment: Ronald, while I may have closed this issue prematurely in other folks' view, I did not do so without thought or reflecting if the issue was relevant. My recommendation to close the issue was based on several factors: - the desire to assist triaging issues that

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Ronald Oussoren added the comment: I don't understand why this issue was closed. Apparently it was closed because it is an old issue without checking if the issue is still relevant??? To be honest the way setup.py looks for libraries could use some attention, the current methods is a bit too

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R. David Murray added the comment: We don't close issues just because they are languishing. We'd need to know that the issue has been superseded or is otherwise no longer an issue. It sounds like this one falls into that category, since another issue is noted as a possible superseder, but I

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Changes by Carol Willing : -- resolution: -> out of date status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker ___

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Changes by Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org: -- nosy: +eric.araujo versions: +Python 3.2 -Python 2.7 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue8406 ___

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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: I think this is essentially a duplicate of Issue7713. (Also there doesn't seem to be an attached.) -- nosy: +ned.deily ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue8406

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Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com added the comment: Let's try this again. -- keywords: +patch Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file16930/setup.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue8406

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Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com added the comment: The patches referenced in issue7713 just unconditionally delete certain directories from the search path(s). This patch (now attached) allows the user to control that. I presume, for instance, if the MacPorts folks don't want /usr/X11/... in

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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: Without testing it, I'd guess the patch wouldn't hurt but it also wouldn't affect the OS X installer build as the installer script builds a local copy of Sleepycat db4 (since none is included in OS X) and supplies it as an additional local

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Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: Ned: the patch does have a (positive) effect when building the OSX installer: the build-installer script creates private builds of a number of libraries, but setup.py can detect other libraries (such as libintl) as well and we don't

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Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com added the comment: Ronald To be honest I'd must rather remove /opt/local and /sw entirely Ronald from setup.py and add new configure flags to specify the Ronald location of a number of libraries (e.g. 'configure Ronald --with-sleepycat-db=/opt/local').

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Changes by Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com: -- nosy: +Arfrever ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue8406 ___

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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: Ronald, as far as I can see, the patch as it stands only addresses dbm so more work is needed to address all the other cases, the ones that actually matter. Issue7713 describes a more serious, general problem because a number of other builders /

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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: Skip, I saw David's chroot remark but I'm having a hard time envisioning how one could use that as a practical matter to build an OS X framework without some *serious* changes to the current configure(s), Makefile(s), and installer script. --

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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: Sorry, Ronald, of course that's what you were suggesting with the proposed configure --with options. +1 on that. I'd just want to ensure that any solution addresses any needs in Issue7713, too. Something like that should. There are probably other

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New submission from Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com: The topic of the vileness of Fink or MacPorts came up in python-dev when discussing building a Mac installer. I remembered that a couple /sw and /opt/local directories are searched unconditionally, making it a bit more challenging for someone