[RBW] Re: FS: Orange Rivendell Rambouillet 60cm

Hey Christian, I might be interested in your 62cm Rambouillet. I realize the 64cm I have is too large and have been looking for 62. If the 60cm in Portland is still available maybe there's a way to resolve things. Also, I think you had a couple responses for Albatross bars, but if you're

[RBW] WTB: clem L 59cm

looking for a clem L 59 frameset. Need to stop riding my cheviot like a mtb! Jamin Located in Los Angeles -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

So, soon JFK Jr. Will reveal that a) he alive, b) he is Grant, and c) he faked his own death to take down the carbon fiber conspiracy? Sign me up! Where we pedal one we pedal all, or something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

You could hang a reflective safety pizza  on the back of the saddle. Just saying. Bill in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] ISO/WTT/WTB Rene Herse Maes Parallel, **non** ultralight bar, 42 mm at outside center of hooks

I don't want a VO bar, thanks, and I do want 42 mm c-c measured at the middle of the outside of the hooks. Am willing to consider 44 mm at this point, but my inner pea-princess prefers 42. As the Cajun chef said when asked what wine goes with his gumbo, "Watcha got?" Thanks. --

[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

I had a Cross Check and for the money it's really hard to beat. There's only one thing I really didn't like about it. The top tube was a bit short, this really showed itself in the area of toe overlap and you had to use a really long stem to run Albatross handlebars. Running fenders was doable

[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

First off, there's nothing you couldn't do on the CrossCheck that you could do on the Hillborne. Both are exemplary do-it-all bikes. But if you did make the switch, I can personally attest you'll find that: - The Hillborne rides smoother - The Hillborne tracks nicer - The Hillborne feels more

[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

Hello Jeffrey This year I finally stepped up and built up a Hillborne after Rivving up a 1992 Bridgestone RB-T, a 1993 Bridgestone XO-2, and a 1983 Specialized Expedition. You can read all about and see those pics at PipesBikesandLeather.com Once I rode the Hillborne, all of those others faded

Re: [RBW] Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

There is also the Nitto Billie Bar that Riv has.. On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:49 PM Mackenzy Albright < mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote: > For those of you contemplating wider albatross bars, there's a custom bar > builder on Instagram doom.bars who has been making an albatross style bar > in

[RBW] Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

For those of you contemplating wider albatross bars, there's a custom bar builder on Instagram doom.bars who has been making an albatross style bar in various 600mm+ sizes. And can make customs for $100usd. Can't say haven't been tempted. https://instagram.com/doom.bars?igshid=1gsbk70p44itn

[RBW] Re: FS 62 cm Custom Riv f/f by Joe Starck - ’98

Hi - The link appears to have pics of two different frames. One set has braze-ons for canti-levers or V-brakes, and mounts for a rack on the fork crown. The other set of pics appears to be the Riv Road from previous posts to this thread. Namaste, Corwin On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

There is one here in CroMo

[RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

I think these are the 56cm wide Nitto Albatross bars that Soma offers with the 31.8mm clamp diameter: Nitto Albatross Bars John On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 6:08:07 AM UTC-7 Joel wrote: > > This is

[RBW] Re: Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

Now him I know. I trust he's keeping a paws-off approach with regard to conspiracies. On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-4, Paul in Dallas wrote: > > And Aslan is on the move. > > Paul in Dallas > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

Interesting question. The way it is posed makes it sound as though there is a checklist you can look at to compare point by point, then tally it up and somehow calculate whether the additional cost is worth it. But most bicycles generally don't work in that linear fashion. It truly is the old

[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

>From the X-Files, "The truth is out there." Paul in Dallas  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto/Riv handlebars, lugged stem, Cliffhangers, Rack

Following -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: FS: Soma Buena Vista Mixte Disc - 58 cm

If, in some time, you don't get any bites on the full bike, I would love to talk about f/f/hs and maybe a crankset... -Thomas Fruita, CO On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 8:48:46 AM UTC-6 Robb wrote: > [image: SomaFab_BuenaVistaDisc_22.JPG] > > [image: SomaFab_BuenaVistaDisc_23.JPG] > > [image:

Re: [RBW] Re: Chauncey Matthews Riv-cloned Road Bike for Road, take 2

No, though 1 reason was that I had only the 1 Pasela which I acquired as a a design gauge. There was perhaps 5 mm of clearance between top of Pasela and bottom of flat-head allen bolt, and I could have ridden it so, but I wanted the fork made right, which means room for a real 45 and 10 mm under

Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions on my aspiring Riv-style build?

I don't think I caught your size but maybe this could work. Says he'll ship. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-2-51cm/7168591492.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

Quickbeam fans at a rally in Tennessee in 2018. They had gathered to demand the truth behind the demise several years earlier of the bike they affectionately call the “Q”-Beam (or just the “Q”), insisting that the switch to the SimpleOne was related to the creation of a “One" World State.

[RBW] Re: A not-so-riv-ish Riv

All Rivs are riv-ish, yours even has Rivendell right there on the downtube! Love the color, love the bars and levers  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

I'm a third to have made the move from CC to Riv (Homer) many years ago now. Riv ride and handling are much better for me. Good luck, shoji On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 12:07:55 PM UTC-4, maxcr wrote: > > I did this many years ago and never looked back. I had a frankenstem on my >

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto/Riv handlebars, lugged stem, Cliffhangers, Rack

Hi Reid, Know this is a long shot as this post is now several months old, but any chance you still have any of these items for sale. I'm interested in the albatross or choco bars (or both?). Thanks, Ray On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-6 Reid Echols wrote: > Hi folks, > >

[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

And Aslan is on the move. Paul in Dallas  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

Good to know. I've only used Surly and crappier track hubs(from 2nd hand bikes so not my choice to start with), and all of them have the protruding shelf. Maybe I'll add having the rear wheel of my QB rebuilt with a Phil Wood hub to the projects list. It'll definitely make fender season easier.

[RBW] Re: A not-so-riv-ish Riv

Tim That's an entirely Rivish bike. Anybody who thinks that is not a Rivish bike has way too narrow a view of what a Rivish bike is. I like the bike a lot and I particularly like the Ergo-on-stache bar setup. That's really cool. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at

[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

I did this many years ago and never looked back. I had a frankenstem on my cross-check to get the bars where I wanted them. To me the Sam felt far more comfortable and stable, on top of that I outfitted it with fatter tires and a nicer rack which made the bike more functional for things beyond

Re: [RBW] Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

Hi, I sold my Cross-Check this past spring and bought a Homer. The ride and the fit is superior. The staff at Rivbike were awesome dialing in my measurements and expectations. The Hillborne is similar to the Homer. I believe you will be pleased with the results. Lyman in Austin On Tue, Aug 11,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

Ben, As far as I know all phil wood bolt on hubs allow this. Any hub brand where the bolt provides the “shelf” that the dropout rests on will work the same. With the bolts removed all the way the hub is only as wide and the hub flange and it can drop out. Not CS but also a fan of this phil

[RBW] Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

Sounds like a great idea to me. I have a Jamis Aurora that I've rebuilt with a bunch of Riv-esque parts over the years, and I've always hoped to swap out the frame for a Sam when the time came. My only reservation is that the Jamis is my daily commuter, and it manages a nice balance of being

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

Is this feature dependent on the model or do all Phil track hubs do this? On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM Clayton Scott wrote: > Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal > dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out. > > Clayton Scott >

[RBW] Re: A not-so-riv-ish Riv

Love the bike, you’ve made it yours through the unique setup :) What size? If you decide to sell, I might be interested. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] FS: Bags

I have the matching Buoy Bags and seat bag, so this completes the family! >> Thanks, >> -Brendan Willard >> Owner/Winemaker >> Phantômé Cellars phantomecellars.com Speaking in Thumbs  > On Aug 11, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Conway Bennett > wrote: > >  > Brendan, > > It's all yours! PayPal

[RBW] Re: A not-so-riv-ish Riv

Really cool. Love that it has the couplers on there too. Looks like a fun ride. On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 9:49:07 AM UTC-5 Tim Wilson wrote: > I'm new to the bunch, but a Rivendell owner since the beginning. Thought > some of you might be interested in seeing my admittedly >

Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions on my aspiring Riv-style build?

Thanks for the sound advise, everyone. You've given me a lot to think about. I'm sure I will make some upgrades to the XO-2, but I will keep things reasonable and not make any additions that couldn't be easily migrated to a future Atlantis should that day ever come. Who knows, maybe a used one

Re: [RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

I'm in agreement with that. I'd say any of the colors as a solid would be better than any of the splits. I have a coupled All Rounder and like how the couplers' design evokes a continuity of the frame tubing 'underneath', almost like a piece of jewelry wrapped there. I think splitting the paint

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Clem Smith Jr. 59cm

Got one! Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] SS Coupler Military Bike stupid idea?

Thanks Michael! 84 trek 620 is the first vintage steel touring bike I ever owned! It rides great but I didn't like the vintage components. Sold it years ago. Still miss the beautiful pewter color under sunlight. I don't know what kind the paint they used back then. The quality feels better than

[RBW] Re: FS 62 cm Custom Riv f/f by Joe Starck - ’98

3 new pix on https://www.flickr.com/photos/fosses/albums/72157714856151207/with/50044245932/ Thanks, Ray Foss Lisbon, CT U.S.A. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

Thanks a bunch. I'll give it some more thought. On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 9:47:33 PM UTC-4, David B wrote: > > 78mm drop on the Redwood. Works fine with 47mm tires. Likely fine with > 42mm and 170mm cranks. I wouldn't go with smaller tires than that though. > > > -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

I too would love a wider Albatross. I was really bummed to see that the 61 cm Loscos that Will uses didn't pass Nitto's testing. I'd really be into a 60s width, 25.4 clamp sweeper that would take bar end shifters. Best I can find is the Surly Open Bar. On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 2:21:46 PM

[RBW] Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

Hi all! I am considering finally upgrading from my Surly Cross-Check to a Sam Hillborne. Has anyone done this, and if so, what are the improvements? Were you happy you did so? I currently ride a 54cm Corss-Check. I mainly commute to work, but some short bike tours are in the future. Thanks in

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Nice Wabi! Is that a Thunder, and is the color "Desert Turquoise"? Does it ride like a Riv? I'm thinking of getting one when they are available again. John Western NC On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:30:27 PM UTC-4, Bones wrote: > > Let's try that again... > > [image: DSC00233.JPG] > > > --

Re: [RBW] Re: Weird handlebar idea

Philip, You’ve got it!! This is exactly what I’m looking for. I’m going to try it with my next mustache bar (I don’t currently have one). This is awesome, I didn’t think it’d be possible. Anything special to note with how you did the conversion? Cheers, Zack > On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:38 PM,

[RBW] Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

#1 Definately -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: FS: Bags

Conway, I can't message privately, but I'm interested in the small sackville bag. Please contact me offlist, Thanks! On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:09:14 PM UTC-4 Conway Bennett wrote: > Large Sackville saddlesack in olive in very good used condition. The only > noticable wear is some road

[RBW] WTB 58 Quickbeam

Caught that one. Talked to the owner a smidge and e didn’t seem too receptive on shipping. It also has looks a bit small so I’m thinking it was a ~56 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Earl Craig's Atlantis on the Blug

It's been interesting reading through these comments. This last bit here, regarding the "lift tube," caught my attention. I LOVE this lift-tube function. When carrying the bike up some stairs, or lifting it over an obstacle in road or trail, it great. Keeps my pump out of harm's way, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Weird handlebar idea

Jim M.: IIRC The horns of the Crazy Bar have a 23.8mm OD and a ~20mm ID to accommodate common bar end/TT brake levers, so running road levers would work if one wanted to save the bar end real estate for something else. A duo of mirrors? Bar end shifters? a couple knocks to make a slingshot?

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

This is good Information. Thanks. I will be getting a custom 650b fixed gear soon and have been contemplating fenders... but between the rear wheel flipping for gear Changes and the general style of riding I do, I feel like the simplicity of the bike kinda gets lost somewhere. I think I’ll

Re: [RBW] FS: Bags

Brendan, It's all yours! PayPal friends and family to this email is my preferred method of payment. Please include your address and I'll get it packed shipped this week. Thanks! P.S. These are the best designed bags on the market. I'm only selling it because I went to a one rackless bag

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

That sold SO quickly Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Indeed it is, somebody is in a mood to unload it quick. If you're anywhere > near Tahoe, go now! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

The turquoise/yellow reminds me of the Pantani Bianchi. What a tough selection! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

Riding my Sam Hillborne around Lake Tahoe tomorrow, Legolas in my size bit it appears to be sold or unavailable. Anyone know more? I’m in South Lake for a few days stills Abe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] FS: Bags

I’ll take the Jammer! >> Thanks, >> -Brendan Willard >> Owner/Winemaker >> Phantômé Cellars phantomecellars.com Speaking in Thumbs  > On Aug 11, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Conway Bennett > wrote: > >  > It's all yours. PayPal friends and family to this email is my preferred > method of payment.

Re: [RBW] FS: Bags

It's all yours. PayPal friends and family to this email is my preferred method of payment. Please include your address and I'll get it packed shipped this week. Thanks. Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett 239.877.4119 On Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 9:01 AM Bryan Quinn wrote: > I’ll take the $40

Re: [RBW] Bike frame suggestions for longish distance 95% road comfort

How much lighter is a Roadeo? My 56cm Ram was Frame=4.8lb, fork = 1.7lb on my fishing scale. -Dave J On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 3:33:47 PM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > > John, > > The Roadeo frame is much lighter than the Ram's. Definitely not equivalent. > > Best, > Rich in ATL > > On Saturday,

[RBW] FS: Bags

I’ll take the $40 treetop bag if still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

[RBW] Re: Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

I knew Garth would be the one to parse this in terms we could all easily understand. Thank you, man. But seriously, I don't even know what this Q thing is. Although I admit I only hang out in a small corner of the Internet, which mostly provides little to no "news." I guess I could google

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

This is what I suggested he do for the Clem, which is similar to the Bombora in terms of range-- a wheelset with some skinny 48mm Switchbacks for the pack training ride, then pop on the set with 2.6" knobbies for hitting the woods. Best to have rims with same width and brakes set up to open

[RBW] Re: Chauncey Matthews Riv-cloned Road Bike for Road, take 2

Did you try riding it as it was with the 41mm Pasela? -Dave On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 5:28:59 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Chauncey picked up the new bike this (actually, yesterday) morning to > re-do the fork and reinforce the rear rack. A 41 mm Pasela has ample room > under the 45

[RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

This is their version, I do not believe it is a Nitto. https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/oxford-bar On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 7:34:28 AM UTC-4, masmojo wrote: > > I noticed recently that SOMA only has one 56cm wide Albatross listed & > it's for 31.8 clamps!? > > > H . . . . ?

[RBW] Re: FOR SALE : SOMA BUENA VISTA

NEW PRICE $800 LOCAL PICKUP - WILL MEET 1/2 WAY IF NOT NEAR ME - JENNERSVILLE PA On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 7:56:27 AM UTC-4, Charlie wrote: > > SOMA - BUENA VISTA MIXTE size 54 cm = MEDIUM SIZE > > FRAME : PEARL WHITE - TANGE PRESTIGE HEAT TREATED CHROMOLLY STEEL BUTTED > NOT LIKE THE

[RBW] Re: Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

Everyone is " Q " . the joke is on the joke itself. What's going to happen what happen-ed ... what's happen-ing . and just who happens to ask and answer all these quests anyways ? Ahahahahaha !'Tis I, the Q the Q of Me and I and You the question , the answer and the

[RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

I noticed recently that SOMA only has one 56cm wide Albatross listed & it's for 31.8 clamps!? H . . . . ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

And some of us keep thinking about Q in Star Trek Next Generation. A far more entertaining Q than the Bond version. On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:19 AM Eric Platt wrote: > Sorry, > > It was a quote from multiple James Bond movies. By an actor who played a > character named "Q". > > Knew I

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

I fully understand the desire to consolidate, but there's a reason you have a Redwood & a Clem in the first place & that reason is still valid. If you have the space & you don't need the money then I would stand pat & possibly tweak both bikes to further distinguish them from each other. Seems

Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

Sorry, It was a quote from multiple James Bond movies. By an actor who played a character named "Q". Knew I shouldn't have said anything. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:46 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Not being a

[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

My totally biased opining of the 4 choices is number 4, all lilac. Second choice would be an "other", all yellow. The split colors look like you took cut 2 frames and morphed them together, just odd. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners